If you picked 10 well respected football minds and asked them, which would you rather have to start a franchise, Mahomes or Allen....

9 out of the 10 would say without question, Mahomes.

The 10th one would say Allen only because he would probably be a Bills homer.

There was a time when Chiefs fans were somewhat insecure about criticisms of Mahomes.

We have an entire thread about how Mahomes is better than Lamar Jackson.

I think most of us have really just moved on from the debate. Super Bowls are the only thing that really matter to Mahomes’s legacy at this point.

99.9% of QBs in history would trade their careers for his, even if he never played another down. There’s like 2, maybe 3-4 QBs who had better entire careers than what Mahomes has accomplished in his short time in the League.

Brett Favre won as many regular season MVPs as Tom Brady. The two aren’t peers though.

When a player achieves a certain level of greatness, the championships are all the matter. LeBron could win the NBA MVP this year, and it wouldn’t convince anyone that he’s better than Jordan (unless the person already believes that). Titles are the only thing that move the needle.

It’s Mahomes vs history. Not Mahomes vs Allen, or any other active QB.

First it was shit I mean if Allen had the offensive weapons Mahomes had he would be winning Super Bowls (all the while the Bills had an ELITE defense).

Now its SHIT if Allen had an elite defense like Kansas City he'd be winning Super Bowls.

Chiefs are just practicing out there, bud. Chiefs are 5-0 and 4-0 against likely playoff teams (Ravens, Bengals, Falcons, Chargers). Bills are 4-2 and 0-2 against likely playoff teams (beat down by Ravens, Texans). You guys sure are impressive against the dog crap teams tho!

Season starts in January in Kansas City.

:clap: IMO, this is is the best post in this thread.

BuT jOSh AlLeN is BEttEr thAn MaHoMes rIGht NoW…

Kurt Warner was better than Tom Brady in 2001
Rich Gannon was better than Tom Brady in 2002
Steve McNair was better than Tom Brady in 2003
Cam Newton was better than Tom Brady in 2015
Matt Ryan was better than Tom Brady in 2016

No one. Gives. A. ****.

What would a Bills fan know about what it takes to win the Super Bowl?

Agreed, that said it all.

Fans of Allen, Burrow, etc. running their mouths about Mahomes:

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Rivers actually handed off for those 1 yard TDs, not shorten his career like Ralph Wiggum diving through a windows to get cheap TDs to pad his stats

Those cheap rushing TDs will take YEARS off his career. You....do...realize that right? No running QB has EVER has a long, functioning career. His window is almost closed.

Kickers who push everything to the right win Super Bowls!

I just learned of this liquor store in OPKS... surely someone has mentioned it in this thread.


https://i.imgur.com/YUnbRLT.jpeg

Sounds like Allen is an epic dipshit for not demanding a trade to a better organization

Most QB's don't win SB's past age 31. Allen is not only getting closer to that, he depends on his mobility and use as a fullback at the goal line.


Every QB that depends on +mobility takes a sharp downward turn past age 30.


Allen is nearing the end of his peak.

The fall happens FAST. Look at Russ. A guy that actually went to 2 Superbowls.

Starts dressing like Cam Newton it's fatal