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Pants 10-13-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 7991664)
We'll (You'll) know after next season. Maybe there's another Harbaugh out there.

We can probably lure him away form the 49ers.

Saul Good 10-13-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7991630)
Yeah, this is why I hope our next hire is better than Turner Gill.

This brings up a TCU question. Why would KU, ISU, KSU, andy Baylor agree to let in TCU? If the realignment to 4 16s happens, TCU would possibly have been behind all of you in the pecking order. Now they may be ahead of all of you. Also, you just let another Texas team into your conference, and you won't be able to beat them out for head-to-head recruits, as you ceded to them your competitive advantage.

Pants 10-13-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7991679)
This brings up a TCU question. Why would KU, ISU, KSU, andy Baylor agree to let in TCU? If the realignment to 4 16s happens, TCU would possibly have been behind all of you in the pecking order. Now they may be ahead of all of you. Also, you just let another Texas team into your conference, and you won't be able to beat them out for head-to-head recruits, as you ceded to them your competitive advantage.

I think the line of thinking there was conference stability.

Mr. Plow 10-13-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7991621)
Yeah, it is a hard sport that every school pours the majority of their resources in. It is fun to have exciting games, winning seasons, and play in bowl games, instead of being a national punchline for the sport.


I'd love to have a winning football program. I'm aware it's the "important" sport. I'll take what I can get right now though. Which is a secondary team that has exciting games, winning seasons, conference championships, and is in the national title conversation nearly every single year.

I know KU was picked to finish last in the conference this year in football, but at least we've got some company right now. Hopefully a good head coach hire will get the football program headed in the right direction. We'll just have to wait and see. Until then, we'll just have to tide ourselves over with our secondary team.

Braincase 10-13-2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7991679)
This brings up a TCU question. Why would KU, ISU, KSU, andy Baylor agree to let in TCU? If the realignment to 4 16s happens, TCU would possibly have been behind all of you in the pecking order. Now they may be ahead of all of you. Also, you just let another Texas team into your conference, and you won't be able to beat them out for head-to-head recruits, as you ceded to them your competitive advantage.

Just to piss Mizzou off, same reason the conference does anything.

Pants 10-13-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 7991694)
I'd love to have a winning football program. I'm aware it's the "important" sport. I'll take what I can get right now though. Which is a secondary team that has exciting games, winning seasons, conference championships, and is in the national title conversation nearly every single year.

I know KU was picked to finish last in the conference this year in football, but at least we've got some company right now. Hopefully a good head coach hire will get the football program headed in the right direction. We'll just have to wait and see. Until then, we'll just have to tide ourselves over with our secondary team.

Nobody talks about "premier" and secondary sports when CBB is on ESPN all the time during the winter. The only people who constantly bring that up are the MU fans on CP.

alnorth 10-13-2011 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7991679)
This brings up a TCU question. Why would KU, ISU, KSU, andy Baylor agree to let in TCU? If the realignment to 4 16s happens, TCU would possibly have been behind all of you in the pecking order. Now they may be ahead of all of you. Also, you just let another Texas team into your conference, and you won't be able to beat them out for head-to-head recruits, as you ceded to them your competitive advantage.

Well, since the realignment to 4 16-team conferences is an internet pipe dream that will never happen, it is not a concern.

Bearcat 10-13-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7991703)
Nobody talks about "premier" and secondary sports when CBB is on ESPN all the time during the winter. The only people who constantly bring that up are the MU fans on CP.

And only in the past few years, ever since that one game against Memphis... weird.

WilliamTheIrish 10-13-2011 11:30 AM

Algorithm time.

It will need secondary sport modifications.

Saul Good 10-13-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7991708)
Well, since the realignment to 4 16-team conferences is an internet pipe dream that will never happen, it is not a concern.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion.

The PAC has expanded to 12 and was close to expanding to 16.
The SEC has expanded to 13 and appears ready to go to 14.
The B1G has expanded to 12 and would love to expand with ND.
The ACC has expanded to 14.

The 4 assumed superconferences have already expanded from 45 members to 51 members. That much we know. We also know that Missouri, West Virginia, and now Rutgers are seriously exploring options within those conferences. That could bring us to 54.

Now remember that Texas, Tech, OU, and oSu would like to go to the PAC. That's 58.

Notre Dame would be 59, and they would bring a partner which would make 60.

It is very easy to see a scenario involving a 16 team PAC, a 14 team B1G, a 16 team ACC, and a 14 team SEC within the next 12-24 months. If that happens, the SEC anf B1G round out their conferences with 2 more teams, and that's that.

Old Dog 10-13-2011 12:04 PM

I don't see any reasonable expansion to those four 16-team conferences where KU would have much to worry about.

My Wildcats are another story altogether, but we can only really play the hand we've been dealt.

HemiEd 10-13-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7991703)
Nobody talks about "premier" and secondary sports when CBB is on ESPN all the time during the winter. The only people who constantly bring that up are the MU fans on CP.

Mostly because they can't compete, so the sport is insignificant. Let the Tigers have a good season, then it suddenly becomes relevant.

Saul Good 10-13-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog (Post 7991814)
I don't see any reasonable expansion to those four 16-team conferences where KU would have much to worry about.

My Wildcats are another story altogether, but we can only really play the hand we've been dealt.

OU, oSu, Tex, and Tech to the PAC.
Cincy and Louisville to the ACC.
Mizzou, WVU, and TCU to the SEC.
Rutgers and Notre Dame to the B1G.

That leaves 2 spots in the B1G with BYU, KU, KSU, Baylor, UCONN, Boston College, South Florida, Central Florida, Boise State, and Iowa State trying to get a spot.

A wrench in those works would be if Rutgers and Mizzou went to the B1G, and WVU was the 14th in the SEC.

That would leave 1 spot in the B1G and 1 in the SEC. KU will not wind up in the SEC. They could easily be left out in that scenario.

Frazod 10-13-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7991819)
Mostly because they can't compete, so the sport is insignificant. Let the Tigers have a good season, then it suddenly becomes relevant.

Well, the flip side to that is when it's the ONLY THING YOU'VE GOT, you tend to value it more than others do. Sort of like Iowa and wrestling.

And ESPN would pimp bingo if they thought they'd make any money airing it.

Pants 10-13-2011 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7991849)
Well, the flip side to that is when it's the ONLY THING YOU'VE GOT, you tend to value it more than others do. Sort of like Iowa and wrestling.

This is true. We value it a lot.

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Originally Posted by frazod
And ESPN would pimp bingo if they thought they'd make any money airing it.

Well, they don't because it doesn't. The point is that basketball is on national television a lot (not just ESPN) which means it's probably rather popular.


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