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BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:20 PM

They need to shave off around 2 hours from WM

TLO 04-08-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508804)
Crowd has been dead since the rousey match, that didn't help styles and shin much.

I don't see that changing in either of the last two matches. Maybe if braun has either a good partner or does it alone.

They're gonna crap all over lesnar and Reigns.

Show is WAYYY too long. Crowd is exhausted.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:28 PM

Well, this was underwhelming.

otherstar 04-08-2018 09:29 PM

A child?

TLO 04-08-2018 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508826)
Well, this was underwhelming.

I hope the kid gets the pin LMAO

otherstar 04-08-2018 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13508828)
I hope the kid gets the pin LMAO

That would be GOLD!ROFL

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:32 PM

LMAO Belt is too heavy for him.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:32 PM

That is about the goofiest thing I've ever seen. ROFL

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:33 PM

Kid got a bigger pop than everyone but Rousey and Bryan.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:34 PM

It would be awesome if the kid grabbed a Mic and said 'I lied. My name is Natalie.'

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:35 PM

Time for the train wreck.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:36 PM

The battle absolutely nobody in the world has been talking about, Cole.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:37 PM

DA BIG DAWG

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:38 PM

https://m.imgur.com/rOE9Qr7

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:38 PM

I'm contemplating just going to bed. That's how much I care about this match.

For what looked like a great show on paper, this mania has been a wet fart.

Tomorrow's Raw had better rock.

otherstar 04-08-2018 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508850)
I'm contemplating just going to bed. That's how much I care about this match.

For what looked like a great show on paper, this mania has been a wet fart.

Tomorrow's Raw had better rock.

One can only hope.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508850)
I'm contemplating just going to bed. That's how much I care about this match.

For what looked like a great show on paper, this mania has been a wet fart.

Tomorrow's Raw had better rock.

It fell off a cliff after the Rousey match. They managed to screw up the return of Daniel Bryan with stupid booking and it's been downhill since then.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:40 PM

They should have closed the show with Rousey.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:40 PM

LMAO You could hear them muting the crowd.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:41 PM

Calling it now: Charlotte and Ronda close out WM 35.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:42 PM

So that's 4 Wrestlemania main events in a row Vince has tried to get Roman over and failed now. He's got to be blowing a ****ing gasket right now.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:42 PM

BOW WOW

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:44 PM

Bet it's a squash.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508854)
LMAO You could hear them muting the crowd.

I think the match is going on so late so they can go straight to black after Reigns wins. Even Vince has figured out he's getting booed out of the building.

Unless it's a swerve and Lesnar signed a one show extension to drop the strap tomorrow night.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:45 PM

DO YOU LIKE ROMAN YET

PLZ LIKE ROMAN REIGNS HE IS COOL AND GOOD

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:47 PM

How is that dumbass vest not a competitive advantage?

Maybe I'll get an answer after another ten years.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:48 PM

It helps keep all his fat from suffocating opponents

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:49 PM

CM Punk chants. They deserve that stupid shit.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:49 PM

Can taker come back out and squash Cena again?

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:50 PM

I like how Cole is trying to act like Lesnar isn't the face for this crowd.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:53 PM

It ain't gonna work Vince. Crowd still won't cheer Reigns if he wins after getting beat up for ten minutes.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:55 PM

I wonder what's going on in the crowd. They're cheering something.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 09:55 PM

This is so, so bad.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:56 PM

Are they piping in noise or something? What the **** is up with the random cheers and boos?

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:57 PM

This crowd reaction is gonna be hilarious.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 09:58 PM

Boring cheers, lmao

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:58 PM

Hahaha you can hear them fiddling with the crowd mics.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 09:58 PM

Oh, they're cheering beach balls.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:00 PM

This is Vince flipping off his entire fanbase lol

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:01 PM

LMAO This is awful.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:01 PM

Is that a 'this is awful' chant?

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:02 PM

No Vince, juice won't get him over either

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:03 PM

Hah!!

Big pop for Lesnar.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:03 PM

Wow, that was legit shocking. He must've resigned at least for a short term deal.

dirk digler 04-08-2018 10:04 PM

how dumb

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:04 PM

So it was my other scenario. Lesnar drops it on Raw.

Wonder if it's Roman or someone else?

Cassady, Joe or Hardy all set to return.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508902)
Wow, that was legit shocking. He must've resigned at least for a short term deal.

He still has to go through testing.

Roman will win at Backlash in front of a non-smarky crowd.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13508907)
He still has to go through testing.

Roman will win at Backlash in front of a non-smarky crowd.

What's the point, though? Your diehard fan base has made it clear over and over and over and over again what they think of him, and now that Bryan is back it could very well get even worse.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:10 PM

LMAO they cut back to Roman after all the recap packages, and he STILL gets booed the second his music starts

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:13 PM

I still think the only way you could ever try to turn the crowd is make him straight heel for a year and then turn him back.

Now would be the perfect time for that. The way he turned and looked at the crowd...have him come out tomorrow and say 'I bled for you and you still booed me. **** you assholes.'

They won't do that, of course.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508913)
What's the point, though? Your diehard fan base has made it clear over and over and over and over again what they think of him, and now that Bryan is back it could very well get even worse.

Because **** you, and me and everyone else that watches.

Vince is determined to know more than you.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508920)
I still think the only way you could ever try to turn the crowd is make him straight heel for a year and then turn him back.

Now would be the perfect time for that. The way he turned and looked at the crowd...have him come out tomorrow and say 'I bled for you and you still booed me. **** you assholes.'

They won't do that, of course.

Or just stop wasting time with someone who the crowd clearly doesn't want to be the top guy. Make him the ultimate bad guy, fine, but he's never going to be the top face of the company. This has been 4 years now of building people up to feed to Reigns only to have Vince call an audible because the fans aren't happy.

BigCatDaddy 04-08-2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508905)
So it was my other scenario. Lesnar drops it on Raw.

Wonder if it's Roman or someone else?

Cassady, Joe or Hardy all set to return.

Should be Strowman.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 10:20 PM

Roman could get over.

In order to do that, he needs to first suck less in the ring and actually learn how to wrestle. Once he does that, they need to stop forcibly trying to get him over and let it happen naturally.

mcaj22 04-08-2018 10:21 PM

that cut back to Roman wobbling up the ramp was like WWE's complete ignorance to concussion symptoms even if hes just selling.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13508931)
Roman could get over.

In order to do that, he needs to first suck less in the ring and actually learn how to wrestle. Once he does that, they need to stop forcibly trying to get him over and let it happen naturally.

I think he's fine as a wrestler. He'll never get over as the top guy because of the Royal Rumble in 2015. The diehards have never forgiven him or Vince for not having Bryan win that year.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:33 PM

Wonder if Asuka is on Raw tomorrow night or if she just disappears now? I still don't think there's any way to rehabilitate her, not the way they did it. Tapping out is absolutely the worst way to lose, and then grabbing a mic and basically saying Charlotte is better afterwards makes it even worse. She's done. Nobody to feud with now that she's wasted her title shot. She's Becky Lynch now. No, wait, actually she's not even that. Becky held that belt. She's one of the Absolution or Riott Squad girls, without anybody to back her up. I wonder if she's just a face in the crowd on Smackdown now.

Jesus, Jinder has a belt again.

I hope Miz takes some time off for the kid. Balor and Rollins would be a better feud.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:35 PM

Maybe that Lashley vs Lesnar rumor was right after all.

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508934)
I think he's fine as a wrestler. He'll never get over as the top guy because of the Royal Rumble in 2015. The diehards have never forgiven him or Vince for not having Bryan win that year.

He does very little actual wrestling and takes half hour naps in his matches.

If he wants turn the smarks, he needs to get better in the ring.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:40 PM

Reigns is actually one of the better workers on the roster. He has been for a few years, as rough as he started in the shield. Cena always has been too, for all the crap he's gotten over the years. That's not the problem with either of them.

It was actually pretty smart booking tonight, having him keep kicking out of f5s. They basically trolled the entire audience, and got Lesnar a bigger swerve pop in the end.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:41 PM

https://youtu.be/ckTXWtzx-Nw

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508946)
Reigns is actually one of the better workers on the roster. He has been for a few years, as rough as he started in the shield. Cena always has been too, for all the crap he's gotten over the years. That's not the problem with either of them.

It was actually pretty smart booking tonight, having him keep kicking out of f5s. They basically trolled the entire audience, and got Lesnar a bigger swerve pop in the end.

Well, except for the fact that they've now wasted yet another year on building to a Roman Reigns coronation and backing out on it at the last second.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508943)
Maybe that Lashley vs Lesnar rumor was right after all.

oh yeah, I completely forgot about him.

There could be some real cool stuff on Raw tomorrow.

Maybe instead of (or in addition to) The Bar, Authors of Pain show up to **** with Strowman (get them over immediately as monsters...).

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13508949)
Well, except for the fact that they've now wasted yet another year on building to a Roman Reigns coronation and backing out on it at the last second.

I don't like him, so I'm fine with that...

BryanBusby 04-08-2018 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508946)
Reigns is actually one of the better workers on the roster. He has been for a few years, as rough as he started in the shield. Cena always has been too, for all the crap he's gotten over the years. That's not the problem with either of them.

It was actually pretty smart booking tonight, having him keep kicking out of f5s. They basically trolled the entire audience, and got Lesnar a bigger swerve pop in the end.

You seem to be mixing good company man with a quality worker, for whatever reason.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508954)
I don't like him, so I'm fine with that...

I'm not. I just want them to get it the **** over with at this point.

Sassy Squatch 04-08-2018 10:49 PM

The kid who teamed with Strowman is the son of a referee, so we'll probably see him tomorrow.

keg in kc 04-08-2018 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13508957)
You seem to be mixing good company man with a quality worker, for whatever reason.

No, I'm not. At all. There's a reason both of them have consistently good matches with everybody they work with, and it's not because anybody is carrying them. Everybody seems to be mixing popularity with workrate, for whatever reason.

I'm saying this as someone who can't stand either one of their characters, or how they're booked, but also respects how they work between the ropes.

I'd also be perfectly fine if they both disappeared...

pugsnotdrugs19 04-08-2018 11:16 PM

Just recently got through the whole show. Rousey impressed me. Surprised about Lesnar going over.

DaNewGuy 04-08-2018 11:44 PM

That was a strange show.. Nice to see Bryan back, Rousey was for sure impressive considering she almost necked herself on a Samoan drop a few weeks ago. Takeover was awesome this weekend to. Ciampa is a real deal heel

BryanBusby 04-09-2018 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 13508964)
There's a reason both of them have consistently good matches with everybody they work with, and it's not because anybody is carrying them.

I have no idea where the hell you get that idea.

Cena just botched multiple spots and Roman is carried a lot. Cena has been a lot better on the mic with hollywood acting, but at best he's not a hindrance.

Cena's value is promoting the brand, selling merch and fulfilling requests for ill people.

Nickhead 04-09-2018 04:30 AM

i was relying on wiz.net's stream of a replay. i missed a 'shit ton' of matches (all but the last two of five :D ). but that reigns lezner match was pathetic. and to end the night none the less. i watch the wwe once every six months maybe, and this product is terrible.

but i keep watching, hoping it will get better. like the royals and chiefs :D

The Bad Guy 04-09-2018 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13509012)
I have no idea where the hell you get that idea.

Cena just botched multiple spots and Roman is carried a lot. Cena has been a lot better on the mic with hollywood acting, but at best he's not a hindrance.

Cena's value is promoting the brand, selling merch and fulfilling requests for ill people.

Keg is right. Both those guys are tremendous assets in the ring and produce quality matches time and time again. I don't know what you've watched.

Nickhead 04-09-2018 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13508981)
Just recently got through the whole show. Rousey impressed me. Surprised about Lesnar going over.

isn't he rumored to go back to ufc?

it would make sense building his brand before he leaves, again :D

Mecca 04-09-2018 04:35 AM

Reigns getting booed and suck has nothing to do with his ring work. For a larger dude he's pretty good. Reigns is getting booed because people don't like to have the company man shoved down their throats.

I don't even think he's beyond repair as being the top face I do however think this refusal to turn him heel and just shove him down everyone's throat is a horrible approach to getting him over. The Rocks heel turn basically saved his career, it's sad they can't look at their own history.

Sassy Squatch 04-09-2018 04:37 AM

https://www.kayfabenews.com/nicholas...able-vitamins/

Nicholas suspended after testing positive for Flintsones Chewable Vitamins

Barely an hour after winning the Raw Tag Team Championships with Braun Strowman, professional wrestler Nicholas has been slapped with a 30-day suspension after a routine urine test revealed traces of performance-enhancing chewable vitamins.

In accordance with WWE’s Wellness Policy (and lesser-known Oldness Policy), Nicholas will be stripped of the title, leaving Strowman as the sole defender of the championships, unless he can find another random child in an audience to fill Nicholas’ tiny shoes.

Sassy Squatch 04-09-2018 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13509045)
Reigns getting booed and suck has nothing to do with his ring work. For a larger dude he's pretty good. Reigns is getting booed because people don't like to have the company man shoved down their throats.

I don't even think he's beyond repair as being the top face I do however think this refusal to turn him heel and just shove him down everyone's throat is a horrible approach to getting him over. The Rocks heel turn basically saved his career, it's sad they can't look at their own history.

Rousey sure looked bad last night, eh?

mcaj22 04-09-2018 06:01 AM

Reigns would connect with the fans if they let him be more like Reigns outside the ring. If he didnt follow a script so close he would be good. He needs to deviate from a script sometimes like Bryan and Heyman do

Chiefs=Champions 04-09-2018 06:48 AM

Both Cena and Reigns CAN put on great matches, but for me its more their limited movesets and the fact that none of them look particularly painful. When your finisher is a tackle or a glorified firemans carry, its hard to be super believable and engrossing.

BryanBusby 04-09-2018 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13509043)
Keg is right. Both those guys are tremendous assets in the ring and produce quality matches time and time again. I don't know what you've watched.

If you say so LMAO

I'll keep that in mind when Cena loudly calls his spots or Roman lays down for his next half hour long nap.

I get the appeal with Cena because he has talent with the mic and can be entertaining and sometimes can have a good match if he's paired with the right person. I wouldn't call that "consistently"

He's had a lot of mediocre to dog shit matches.

Roman Reigns I just don't get. His in ring work sucks, his character sucks, his conditioning sucks and he sucks on a mic.

It's not about just not liking them. I don't like Dean Ambrose either, but he's actually a hell of a worker.

Roman is bad enough that they just 86'd an entire year long coronation because he has X-Pac heat and I think at a certain point, you have to look at circumstances beyond just booking.


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