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DaFace 11-02-2016 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12524878)
So then who do you play against Oakland or Pittsburgh or San Diego who can put up points in a hurry? We can't rely on 4th quarter monster rallies or expect the defense to continually shut the raiders out. Alex struggles against teams who can put up points. It works both ways. He has ability to use a second gear but chooses not to.
It does work both ways, but there is no stat more strongly correlated with wins than turnover ratio.

As evidence: Kansas City Chiefs 2015 and 2016.

BlackOp 11-02-2016 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12524878)
So then who do you play against Oakland or Pittsburgh or San Diego who can put up points in a hurry? We can't rely on 4th quarter monster rallies or expect the defense to continually shut the raiders out. Alex struggles against teams who can put up points. It works both ways. He has ability to use a second gear but chooses not to.
Smith has owned the Raiders and SD...as far as Pittsburgh, the defense was completely out of sync. That wasn't all on Smith...they allowed 22 1st quarter points.

Bowser 11-02-2016 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12524904)
The defense can consistently play well. They did it last year and ever since Pittsburgh they've done it against some of the best offenses you can possibly play without their best player in Justin Houston.

The Pittsburgh game was a fluke. A few balls don't bounce your way, the defense was banged up and they go down 22-0 in a flash. Hard to come back from in those circumstances.
Plus, Pittsburgh was mad as hell getting whupped up on in primetime the week before. Shit, Tomlin was calling our game with them "Redemption Sunday", ffs.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-02-2016 06:56 PM
When you have a defense with an identity for creating more turnovers than any other team in the league, why not have a guy on offense who takes care of the ball?

It's a perfect combination, and it's why we are 16-3 since last year.

Mother****erJones 11-02-2016 06:57 PM
Foles came in and the offense was fun again. Offense isn't fun with Smith. I'm ****ing stoked for this game. Not because I think Foles is elite, but because he elevates the offense and can attack a defense vertically and isn't going to play scared and hesitant.

Baby Lee 11-02-2016 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12524924)
Foles came in and the offense was fun again. Offense isn't fun with Smith. I'm ****ing stoked for this game. Not because I think Foles is elite, but because he elevates the offense and can attack a defense vertically and isn't going to play scared and hesitant.
Wasn't fun. . . What a pussy.

Hammock Parties 11-02-2016 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12524853)
All I'm saying is this: November 27th, @ Denver. Give me Alex.

You think Foles is going to have time to go deep in that game consistently? You might have 1-2 chances the entire game.

You have to take care of the football and move the chains against good teams and good defenses. We don't get to play dreadful pass rushes and secondaries like the Colts every week.
Nick Foles against top 10 defenses (yards or points) in 2013 and 2014:

W 36-21

W 24-21

L 21-26

L 20-24

W 31-21

8 TD/5 INT

As long as he's surrounded by a decent team, Foles is going to be just fine against good defenses.

Also:

Nick Foles against teams that score 24+: 4-13

Ain't great, but from where I'm sitting it's a whole lot better than 4-37-1.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-02-2016 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12524918)
When you have a defense with an identity for creating more turnovers than any other team in the league, why not have a guy on offense who takes care of the ball?

It's a perfect combination, and it's why we are 16-3 since last year.
Pete Carroll, BB, harbaughs, Denver.... Deep runs relying on the strength of the defense and using the offense to focus on the mistakes of opposing defenses. Not exactly exciting football but it brings in wins.

How the numbskulls haven't figured this out is beyond me...

Mother****erJones 11-02-2016 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12524930)
Wasn't fun. . . What a pussy.
What?

KChiefs1 11-02-2016 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12524913)
Smith has owned the Raiders and SD...as far as Pittsburgh, the defense was completely out of sync. That wasn't all on Smith...they allowed 22 1st quarter points.


Every team has one of those.

I'm glad it happened because it came at the perfect time...right before the bye. Andy had the team's complete focus after that debacle.



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Sandy Vagina 11-02-2016 07:09 PM
Chuck it deeeeeep, bruh!!!!

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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-02-2016 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12524930)
Wasn't fun. . . What a pussy.
Dude, IT MATTERS.

Watching Smith plod along is like 4 quarters of listening to Hillary blather on about hot sauce whilst listening to the sweet strains of fingernails on a chalkboard; it's ****ing EXCRUCIATING.

Because you KNOW more can be done.

Because you KNOW there are plays just dying on the field due to the guy.

It it what it is and frankly, when Andy tries to draw up that same piddly-piss, honey boo-boo, behind the LOS playbook, I hope Foles goes ****ing Rouge Farve on his fat ass.

LET IT RAIN!

DaneMcCloud 11-02-2016 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12524924)
Foles came in and the offense was fun again. Offense isn't fun with Smith. I'm ****ing stoked for this game. Not because I think Foles is elite, but because he elevates the offense and can attack a defense vertically and isn't going to play scared and hesitant.
Fun again? What the **** does that mean?

The bottom line is winning.

JFC.

DaneMcCloud 11-02-2016 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12524966)
Dude, IT MATTERS.

Watching Smith plod along is like 4 quarters of listening to Hillary blather on about hot sauce whilst listening to the sweet strains of fingernails on a chalkboard; it's ****ing EXCRUCIATING.

Because you KNOW more can be done.

Because you KNOW there are plays just dying on the field due to the guy.

It it what it is and frankly, when Andy tries to draw up that same piddly-piss, honey boo-boo, behind the LOS playbook, I hope Foles goes ****ing Rouge Farve on his fat ass.

LET IT RAIN!
I thought you no longer watched nor cared?

:shrug:

15-2, Bitches.

And that's what you all are: Bitches.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-02-2016 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12524970)
Fun again? What the **** does that mean?

The bottom line is winning.

JFC.
Wins > Fantasy football, ESPN highlights/hype


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