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comochiefsfan 02-25-2025 12:11 PM

Indoor football is such an awful viewing experience. I really can’t overstate how much I’ve hated every game I’ve attended in a dome.

That being said, I’ve accepted it’s happening regardless and the new stadium is going to be so expensive it’ll probably price most of us out from ever going to a game again.

And if I do go, the wine and cheese elites that can afford to go will kill the atmosphere and make it nothing close to Arrowhead, so I likely won’t be interested in returning.

With all that in mind, knock yourself out Clark.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2025 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxer_Chief (Post 17979216)
Bob Fescoe lol noted Kansas homer with no connections to anything.

This has been obvious ever since the vote.

Deberg_1990 02-25-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17979100)
May have a retractable roof though.

This would be the way to go. If money and politics were no object

Rainbarrel 02-25-2025 12:17 PM

The Jones Edwards dome probably scared the Missouri politicians straight out of the room

PHOG 02-25-2025 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17979215)
Domes have nothing to do with postponing/moving games... even Buffalo with their complete shit winters have dug out seats from feet of snow.

And KC rarely has storms that just make it impossible for players and fans to get to the game safely, even though the storm the first week of January does come to mind.

Well, they did move a game a couple years ago, to Detroit I think?

Edit: Postponed https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...1_127_39809620

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Jets vs. Bills, 2014: A snowstorm in Buffalo caused this late-November contest to be moved to Detroit and postponed until the following day.
Ok, so it was 10 years ago, damn where has time gone. :D

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/h...een-relocated/

philfree 02-25-2025 12:36 PM

I wouldn't want to be a dome team going into Buffalo, Baltimore or New England for the playoffs. Denver is still not a dome so yeah we don't want to be a dome team going in there. Playing outdoors makes us tougher all around and having teams like Houston, Miami etc. coming to KC for a playoff game is an advantage. Would it be cool for the SB to held in KC? Sure, and it would generate a lot of revenue for the area. Whatever they build it needs to be in Missouri. If the powers that be in this state lose the Chiefs to Kansas they are complete idiots who need booted from office.

comochiefsfan 02-25-2025 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17979239)
The Jones Edwards dome probably scared the Missouri politicians straight out of the room

That place is ****ing sad.

It’s unbelievable that it’s only 30 years old.

tk13 02-25-2025 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17979096)
Even the Bills are keeping it ‘open air’

Buffalo will probably never be considered for a Super Bowl or Final Four. Or major soccer matches and exhibitions. That's gonna be the push and pull, keeping the history of Arrowhead or making a ton of money on these big one-time events, concerts, etc.

ChiefsCountry 02-25-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17979400)
Buffalo will probably never be considered for a Super Bowl or Final Four. Or major soccer matches and exhibitions. That's gonna be the push and pull, keeping the history of Arrowhead or making a ton of money on these big one-time events, concerts, etc.

College Football National Championship Game is in play now as well. Kansas City would be a perfect spot for that with a dome stadium.

Deberg_1990 02-25-2025 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17979400)
Buffalo will probably never be considered for a Super Bowl or Final Four. Or major soccer matches and exhibitions. That's gonna be the push and pull, keeping the history of Arrowhead or making a ton of money on these big one-time events, concerts, etc.

Yep. Look how much money Jerry Jones makes off Jerry World for non NFL events.

Bearcat 02-25-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17979275)
Well, they did move a game a couple years ago, to Detroit I think?

Edit: Postponed https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...1_127_39809620

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Ok, so it was 10 years ago, damn where has time gone. :D

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/h...een-relocated/

Yeah, if it's impossible for players and fans to get to a game, they'll move or postpone, like they've done a couple times.... it doesn't have anything to do with playing outside. If the NFL isn't going to delay an outdoor game because the wind chill is -26⁰, not sure what it would take.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17978662)
Hard to avoid politics on this one. Is it safe to say that the local MO politicians fumbled this one …w/o mentioning names? I’m not seeing a level of urgency that you might expect from them. We’re lucky we have ownership that isn’t pulling an Art Modell. Knock on wood, the team will stay local even with a new location.

40 years ago -- sure.

Clark didn't want to stay in Jackson County. There's a reason he threw the match with this plan.

No smart businessman would've stayed at Arrowhead with a new, state of the art stadium being offered up in a far more commercially viable area.

Jackson County just fell to shit. Local politicians allowed to happen over decades.

This was a fait accompli. Even had the voters approved it, I'm betting something would've scuttled it.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17979225)
Indoor football is such an awful viewing experience. I really can’t overstate how much I’ve hated every game I’ve attended in a dome.

That being said, I’ve accepted it’s happening regardless and the new stadium is going to be so expensive it’ll probably price most of us out from ever going to a game again.

And if I do go, the wine and cheese elites that can afford to go will kill the atmosphere and make it nothing close to Arrowhead, so I likely won’t be interested in returning.

With all that in mind, knock yourself out Clark.

Yeah - indoor football sucks.

That said, I've seen the proposals and taken the surveys.

I was very clearly not in their plans for their new stadium so my opinion don't mean a whole lot. I was out anyway.

Bearcat 02-25-2025 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17979225)
Indoor football is such an awful viewing experience. I really can’t overstate how much I’ve hated every game I’ve attended in a dome.

What do you hate about it, besides being indoors? And which stadiums?

I went to the Cards/Chiefs season opener and enjoyed their stadium, but it was also first row of the upper deck, so hard to beat in terms of seeing the entire field and what not.

I don't think they make stadiums that are as steep and on top of the action like Arrowhead any longer, but that's dome or not and just sucks in general.

ChiefsCountry 02-25-2025 05:43 PM

If you are spending that much money on something, you want to get the maximum usage out of it. Arrowhead is worthless for much of the year. A roof would get so much more events to help offset the cost. A baseball stadium is different, because you have 82 games. It is getting used a ton. A roof isn't that big of a deal.

GloryDayz 02-26-2025 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 17978662)
Hard to avoid politics on this one. Is it safe to say that the local MO politicians fumbled this one …w/o mentioning names? I’m not seeing a level of urgency that you might expect from them. We’re lucky we have ownership that isn’t pulling an Art Modell. Knock on wood, the team will stay local even with a new location.

Yep, MO only rescues STL teams, so it's Kansas vs. JACO... It's all good, we get it. Perhaps one day MO will decide to quit ****ing around with its neighbor to the west and decide to invoke its economic will. Nah, who am I kidding, Jeff City only cares about STL.

Chief Pagan 02-26-2025 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17979719)
What do you hate about it, besides being indoors? And which stadiums?

I went to the Cards/Chiefs season opener and enjoyed their stadium, but it was also first row of the upper deck, so hard to beat in terms of seeing the entire field and what not.

I don't think they make stadiums that are as steep and on top of the action like Arrowhead any longer, but that's dome or not and just sucks in general.

I hate being deprived of seeing fans and football players playing in freezing ass temperatures and pouring rain while I watch them on my 75" from the comfort of my living room, bourbon in hand.

Chief Pagan 02-26-2025 10:51 PM

No seriously, there is probably a slight advantage to being an outdoor team because dome playing outside on the road probably suffer slightly.

But if I wad building such an expensive stadium, I would want to be able to use it more of the year. And if/when KC no longer has such a great team and you are still trying to sell seats in Dec,... Yea, a dome is going to be an easier sell with the older richer crowd most likely.

comochiefsfan 02-26-2025 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17979719)
What do you hate about it, besides being indoors? And which stadiums?

I went to the Cards/Chiefs season opener and enjoyed their stadium, but it was also first row of the upper deck, so hard to beat in terms of seeing the entire field and what not.

I don't think they make stadiums that are as steep and on top of the action like Arrowhead any longer, but that's dome or not and just sucks in general.

I’ve been to the Jones Dome (which is probably the worst dome in the country so I don’t really even take much from that experience) and Jerry World for the Cotton Bowl last year.

This is probably just me, but I find the lighting very weird and it gives me kind of an uncanny valley experience. It feels very strange to watch football indoors under a bunch of artificial light and it messes with my eyes. Sound also bounces around and echoes all over the place in a strange way. Lots of natural light is essential to make it feel right to me.

I just prefer outdoor football, whether it be played on a sunny day or under a night sky.

I realize people have other opinions and that’s fine.

Bearcat 02-27-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17981058)
I’ve been to the Jones Dome (which is probably the worst dome in the country so I don’t really even take much from that experience) and Jerry World for the Cotton Bowl last year.

This is probably just me, but I find the lighting very weird and it gives me kind of an uncanny valley experience. It feels very strange to watch football indoors under a bunch of artificial light and it messes with my eyes. Sound also bounces around and echoes all over the place in a strange way. Lots of natural light is essential to make it feel right to me.

I just prefer outdoor football, whether it be played on a sunny day or under a night sky.

I realize people have other opinions and that’s fine.

I appreciated the natural light of the Cards' stadium, with the translucent fabric roof... never visited the Jones dome, but it always seemed dreary as shit on TV.

My preference would be outdoor, or else keep the fans covered/field under the sky or retractable at worse... outside of events in the middle of the day in July/August, there are just so few days where outdoor events don't work in KC (besides of course wanting a SB), and that's saying something for how subpar the weather is overall.


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