This team is really missing KJ's emotion and fist pumping.

at least we still have our kenpom ranking

This one is over.

Dajuan Harris is complete trash. Needs to be surrounded by 3 NBA players or he’s garbage.

There are players on this team I truly hate. First time ever.

That's it.

What a way to come up short

Zeke made a name for himself today

Harris, you're and idiot

Harris misses another bunny.

Just an awful player.

Pissed this game ..... Awaaaayyy!

Yeah, I’m done with this team for good this season. Flory needs to get the **** out of this program as soon as possible and I’m sure he will

Bill probably believes that KJ being out made the difference

Where was the 5 second call on that shit zebras?

Wow. They even just gave up down 6 at the end.

I can't wait for the quotes about KJ in the postgame.

They're always a real treat.

Not looking like a national champion team.

NIT?

This isn’t a second weekend team.

We know how this ends.

3 seed and blown out by some awful draw in the second round.

Biggest choke since the Michigan game in 2013

One of the worst late game meltdowns I've witnessed. Will be... investing to see where we go from here.

Thank god we cashed in back in 2022.

These last few years minus 2020 don’t paint a great picture for the program otherwise.

National champion? National champion!?!? Are you kidding me!?! National champion?!?!!!

Just couldn't have played much worse at the end of regulation, end of ot, and end of double ot. Had the game won twice and lost.

Good game guys. Houston just wanted this one more. Hope the one in our place is just as good. Good luck the rest of the way, except on March 3 and especially against Iowa St. Much respect.

This is a far worse loss than that

They were up 6 shooting FTs with 20 seconds left here, just a bunch of gutless chokers without character

LMAO

I will say, I do prefer a stress-free March.

Thanks team!

Dajuan Harris is one of the biggest problems the team has.

KJ was temporarily solved by his injury.

Harris won’t improve in any meaningful way.

Program needs a reset. You can’t have bums like Harris and Adams as key players.

Unfortunately, settling for guys like that doomed this program for 3 straight years.

I know where it goes from here, KJ returns and they get even worse with the same choker losers by benching their only NBA player

This season is a lost cause

I almost considered flying down for this game and the AFC championship too

Thank **** I decided against it, this was the worst loss at any level of basketball I’ve ever seen

Let's play the hypothetical game.

Let's say HCBS retires after this year, OR after coaching DP.

Who would you want to replace him? Or who is on your list?

Houston away is gonna be an absolute beatdown

At least we'll have KJ back then

Does my choice have to be realistic?

I told you this was the same team as last year

I can’t wait for this season to be over. I won’t miss KJ, Dickinson or Harris. The rest of the guys can get bent too I don’t care lol. These last two years have been a horrible look under Bill Self. Can’t believe I’m saying that

Same team? They didn’t do anything like this shit with McCullar out there

LMAO
No it wasn't... Try losing to NC State in the Finals when you're Phi Slamma Jamma. I was in Albuquerque that night...Then there was Georgetown losing to Nova.
This was just a big game regular season loss. Nothing more. Plenty of season left.

Just imagine what Mayo will do in that kind of game in a tough environment if this is what he did at home? Just start shitting his pants on the floor?

Bidunga alone is an improvement, but it’s clear that Harris just puts a ceiling on any team that doesn’t surround him with 3 NBA wings.

Add Adams in there and you’ve got a low floor, low ceiling team. Doesn’t really matter what else you have if those two are playing major minutes.

Point guard is priority 1 in the portal. Absolutely have to be better there.

We thought we appreciated Mason, Graham, and Sherron, but we didn’t show near enough gratitude for them.

Nate Oats is the list (incredible offensive coach and good recruiter), I’ve wanted him the last couple of years. Self isn’t going anywhere though

Yeah there’s a reason he wasn’t recruited here out of high school and you can see why in these types of moments against big boy squads.

What the **** are you talking about

KU turned the ball over the last 3 times in regulation to send it to overtime and then blew a 6 point lead with 18 seconds left while shooting FTs at the end of 1OT

That was literally the biggest meltdown in KU basketball history (and it’s a long ****ing history)

Nate Oats would’ve murdered KJ Adams in his sleep.

I’ve heard about his practices. Basically tapes off the floor so you can only shoot 3’s or bunnies/dunks. Anything else is an inefficient shot.

Ya know, modern basketball.

Sure but even Timberlake had more guts than this guy. Some guys have “it’” and some don’t, he clearly doesn’t despite the talent.

It’s a beautiful dream but it’s never gonna happen. Self is going to call the shots on his exit and that’s nowhere close

Boil that all down to a first weekend exit again. I'm sick of Dajaun, he's an absolute bricklayer. He also tried to choke away the ncaa championship game.

If you ever wondered how KU let him get out of their own backyard, look no further.

I’m not sure I can recall a worse collapse at home than this.

Or anywhere at any level of sport

THATS the worst exaggeration Ive ever seen in the history of sports

How is it an exaggeration

Find me another game where a team turned the ball over 3 straight times to blow a 6 point lead in a minute in regulation and then did the same thing again with a 6 point lead with 18 seconds in overtime (and shooting FTs)

You won’t be able to do it; we had a 99.999% chance to win that and literally did every single thing we possibly could have to lose. We literally could have spent the end of regulation and end of overtime fouling Houston and it would have worked out much better than what we did

This one was pretty epic

https://youtu.be/rzPzrDVEV_o?feature=shared

<img src="https://i.imghippo.com/files/QKw9729Vg.png" alt=QKw9729Vg.png>

This is completely ****ed

That’s at least comparable, forgot about that craziness

The line between epic collapse and incredible individual effort is pretty fine.

Tonight was more about KU **** ups and Houston taking advantage than one of the best players of all time going crazy.

Yeah, this was just a pure choke. Houston managed to take advantage of it but that’s the takeaway. This is what this team will be in any pressure moment apparently.

There’s a lot of blame to go around to pretty much everybody but Flory and Griffen but I can’t forget about Shakeel Moore fouling a player with his back to the basket up 2 points with 10 seconds left. There’s only so much Self can do with this kind of dumbassery going on.

What sucks most of all is they are going to waste their best NBA prospect in 12 years on this group (and probably do it with him on the bench in March).

Talent very much isn’t the issue with this team either, everything else is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Self: Two pretty good team&#39;s playing and there weren&#39;t a nickel&#39;s worth of difference between us. (Plus) we didn&#39;t have KJ. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/kubball?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#kubball</a></p>&mdash; Shreyas Laddha (@shre98) <a href="https://twitter.com/shre98/status/1883350348192170274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This would not have been Self’s post-game reaction to this one pre-heart issue imo

And he will use this loss to further justify KJ playing 35 min a game upon his return

That was a train wreck collapsing onto itself into a black hole of suck.

I mean that the game itself was just ONE regular season game. Yes, it was a big one, and yes, it was a monumental collapse, but it wasn't season ending. Still have half of the season left. The two games I mentioned were much worse for the team that lost. Just wasn't KU's night tonight. They ran into a team that wanted it more who took advantage of KU's mistakes. That's all. KU will be a factor in the end.

LMAO

Until 2019, it was fair to assume KU would just “figure it out”.

Something changed then though.

2019 fell apart due to injury. Ended with an early exit.

2020 was great but Covid.

2021 was bad. Really bad. Ended with an early exit.

2022 was a Natty. Nice to have 3 NBA wings.

2023 had no bench and ended with an early exit.

2024 was painful and ended with an early exit.

KU is no factor in the conference at this point. Recent history suggests an early exit too.

I hear ya, but what happens if KU beats Iowa St and / or Zona at home? They would factor heavily on who wins the conference. They're too good not to have a say in how it turns out. That's all Im saying.

Obviously in terms of season implications it doesn’t mean much but I was referring to it as a singular game. You can’t have a bigger collapse than that.

And KU won’t be a factor with this core group if we are talking about contending. Beyond their obvious flaws (particularly when KJ plays), their problem is literally every team they play wants it more. College basketball has a habit of turning into shitfests where grit matters more than talent (look no further than Auburn/UT tonight) and KU isn’t equipped to play that style.

The simplest way to put it is that KU is less than the sum of its parts.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Up 6 with 18 seconds left and going to the line to shoot 2 free throws and they lost inside of Allen Fieldhouse</p>&mdash; Braiden Turner (@bturner23) <a href="https://twitter.com/bturner23/status/1883338320270508473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Flory was averaging 13 minutes per game before KJ Adams got hurt. <br><br>Flory played 36 minutes tonight and was great.<br><br>And Bill Self points to THAT?! <a href="https://t.co/lanWmVPft0">https://t.co/lanWmVPft0</a></p>&mdash; Mike Vernon (@M_Vernon) <a href="https://twitter.com/M_Vernon/status/1883351589127442537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We are so cooked

Ok. I get your point about the collapse...
Great line - "Where grit matters more than talent." I understand that also. Auburn sure has grit, as does UH and Iowa St... They're all equipped to play that style. You're right in that KU is built differently...Im just saying that KU is very talented and will be a factor in who wins the conference. They may not win it themselves, but they're totally capable of beating all of the contenders.

I flew into KC area for the KU vs. UK ass whoopin' at AFH... and the Bengals @ KC AFCC in 2022... then I got food poisoning from eating the leftover Jack Stack cheesy corn.

Not a great weekend.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Didn’t recover this fumble and didn’t win this game. <br><br>2024-2025 Kansas sports experience has been BRUTAL <a href="https://t.co/9cYBA1odov">pic.twitter.com/9cYBA1odov</a></p>&mdash; RRinehart (@RRinehart2012) <a href="https://twitter.com/RRinehart2012/status/1883372764998090876?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The propensity for end-game choking of both teams despite high talent levels is certainly similar

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per KenPom, Houston had a 0.4% chance to win when Kansas had the ball and a 6-point lead with 20 seconds remaining in 1st OT.<br><br>That makes Houston’s eventual win the most unlikely in any of the 1,487 games between AP Top-25 teams over the last 15 seasons.</p>&mdash; Jared Berson (@JaredBerson) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaredBerson/status/1883367416895525252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only 99.6%, it could have been worse

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This probably doesn&#39;t even account for the fact that Kansas actually got to the line shooting 2 on that possession <a href="https://t.co/tO4nDCytpB">https://t.co/tO4nDCytpB</a></p>&mdash; Bart T��rvik (@totally_t_bomb) <a href="https://twitter.com/totally_t_bomb/status/1883369276322828382?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh so it actually was, in fact, worse per Torvik

:LOL:

Jalon Daniels and Dajuan Harris are problems.

You can’t have an idiot at QB. You can’t have an idiot at Point Guard.

No matter how much talent you have around them, they put a ceiling on what a team can achieve.

Couldn’t even get us a shot at the end of regulation and the sad thing is nothing about that play was surprising.

Nonetheless how you don’t try to get the ball to your best player in the post is sort of incredible to me (Houston doubles immediately which leads to a shot for someone) but they have never utilized Dickinson as much as they should.

If you had to create a version of Jalon Daniels playing point guard, wouldn’t tonight pretty much be it?

That awful turnover then clanking both free throws to give Houston life.

So we're K State now.

I know we're all upset over a pretty bad loss.

But the ceiling for Dajuan Harris being the point guard was set 3 years ago. And it ends in confetti.

I don't think it's Dajuan that's the problem. I don't think it's KJ. I don't think it's Hunter or any one guy.

I think it's the nature of college sports now. You pull together a bunch of square pegs and hope that you can fit them into the round holes. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

In the "old days and old ways" you spent time shaping guys into round pegs.

The problem from my perspective is that he's still the same guy he was 3 years ago and we just don't have 3 other guards that can score at a rate that hides his deficiencies there.

Also, I think his defense is worse and has gotten worse each year.

I dont think K State can even play with UH or ISU. KU can.