Justin McLuckie @m_c_luckie
Mahomes goes deep to Marcus Kemp. TD. Crowd loved it.

Right and he lost weight in the off season. I don't see how that was a good thing when he would already go down easily after getting hit.

Nick Jacobs @Jacobs71
Bray hits Spiller on a vertical down the sidelines Pierre-Louis in coverage. That's a TD and well placed ball in stride.

I am sooooo glad they drafted Mahomes and I cant wait to see him play.

That being said, you idiots claiming Smith doesn't have anything to do with KC winning games in the regular season are just ****ing stupid.

Fact is we win games and lose games usually based on Smith's performance. We won 12 games last year and also lost in the playoffs due to Smith.

You cant blame the guy for every loss and give no credit for wins.

wrong thread, bro. The romper is coming for you! :p

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BJ Kissel ✔ @ChiefsReporter
CJ Spiller with a nice catch on a wheel route for a huge gain on pass from Tyler Bray. Having a great camp.

While Gimpy West has been in the tub all camp- Spiller has been the most explosive RB by far. Spiller has been dominating!! Not bad for a 30-year-old broke dick- as he has been labeled by someone on here.

BJ Kissel @ChiefsReporter
Bray did same thing with Smith earlier with the 1's, so there's that.

And you can't blame the losses on the team but use the line "All Smith does is win!".

Couldn't agree more. I'm in the middle with all of this Alex Smith shit. I'm ready to move on, but I appreciate everything he's done and give credit where it's due.

Spiller was always talented. He just suffered through injuries.

Kemp is having a Great camp so far. It could be that PM2 is making him look good, but either way- he makes the team if he keeps it up.

Idk. Who wouldn't make the team at WR. Hill, Conley, Wilson are locks. Gotta think Jones makes it as well along with Robinson. That leaves you with one more spot.

Hill and Kemp have been scoring like crazy while the rest of the WR's havn't done much.

PM2 and Kemp seem to have a great connection- you need to think about what is best for the future as well before you keep an average player like Wilson instead. We will see if he can do it the preseason games- if he keeps producing like he has, we need to keep him.

I mean Jones has been getting reps with the 1s. That has to mean something. Wilson will never be more than a #3 at best. Conley is the vet in this receiving corps. He's the one that needs to step up. But these fringe guys they will need to prove it Friday and every game going forward

I'm telling you, I watched or listened to every game of Kemp's college career. The kid is a baller. He also played with some of the worst QB's in Hawaii's history

I'm not sure if he makes the 53 but he definitely can make the PS if he keeps performing

Terez A. Paylor @TerezPaylor
Alex with have first quarter, Tyler the second, Pat the third and Stave the fourth
8:45 AM · Aug 8, 2017

So are we gonna go for it on fourth down everytime since we don't have a kicker. Or is Colquitt gonna try

If you ever doubt MVP again I will punch you in the ****ing face...

He has scored several TD's so far, if he does that in games- there is no way he makes it to the practice squad.

Why did they make Santos kick 30 plus field goals in one morning? Now he has a tweaked groin? Nice job.

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Oh boy Stave gets a whole quarter.

They shouldn't be wasting valuable quarters on Bray and Stave. PM2 needs the work.

Maybe they think they might flash so we can trade them?

I'm just curious has MVP ever tried a field goal before

Matt Derrick @mattderrick
DL Tanoh Kpassagnon out with shin splints today, did not practice.

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Alex with have first quarter, Tyler the second, Pat the third and Stave the fourth



Why does Stave need the fourth quarter he is just going get cut. It really takes away reps from players that matter.

or maybe they dont want to get him killed playing with the back of the roster?

Will smith end up playing the whole first half again like last season when they couldn't score in 4 drives?

Stave is lucky to get a rep in practice as it is. He has 0.0 value for trade.

Honestly it should be Smitty quarter 1, Bray quarter 2 and half of third and Mahomes half of third and full 4th Quarter

Yes I remember that much like Cassel days ROFL You just gotta laugh.


Same as regular season when they don't get drives going. I think we had another record for not having a opening drive for a touchdown for the longest weeks into a season.

If Stave manages a couple of good drives- Maybe Denver comes calling- they have a hot mess at QB so far in camp.

That thought has crossed my mind as well. But then I think about training camp heroes Bobby Sippio and Fred Williams. We all thought that they were the next Jerry Rice or Megatron(exaggeration, I know). But not only did they not make the team, they didn't make any team or practice squad. So I'm not ready to jump on the Kemp bandwagon just yet. I would love to see him pan out. But I know that I'm not qualified to say how good he really is.

Donks best QB is Chad Kelly

fyp


Chiefs fans that want to sit at a preseason game and watch Stave and Bray- 0

It is crazy how anemic this offense was last year. I got to a point last season when i thought to myself "can we just get the defense out there so we can score some ****ing points."

Sippio and Williams were arena league players. Kemp is coming straight from college. Games translates more to the NFL than a guy coming from the Arena League

Why do you "gotta think" either of those guys makes it? And frankly, Wilson doesn't add much value for his 1.8 million. Chesson, Jones, Kemp or Robinson wouldn't be as costly and would add just as much so I doubt Wilson is a lock.

I don't wanna see Stave. I do wanna see Bray though. See how close the competition is between Bray and Mahomes. Pre season will decide who is the #2

Reid loves Wilson. Jones has been running with the first team however if he sucks ass during pre season it will be practice squad for him. Robinson has been much improved and he adds value to special teams. These #5 and #6 receivers should be able to contribute to special teams if they wanna make the team

Come on Andy.

How about Tyler first half & Mahomes the second?

We all know what Alex can do & don't care about Stave.

I agree and then in the next preseason game flip flop Bray and Mahomes so it's fair. The third game should be mostly Alex Smith into the thrid quarter so Coach really needs make a decision but I'd hope Patrick would get the bulk of the fourth game being I'd hope he beats out Bray. Or if not then Bray would get most of the reps last game and that would suck.

This. However I wanna see if the Smitty Hill connection is real come game time

Reid loved Maclin, and what are you basing Robinson being much improved on? Running with the ones is far from a lock to make the team in TC.

This changes things a bit I was going to go to the game figuring Mahomes would get to play more than a quarter. Might stay home.

That's why I said pre season will determine it. If these fringe WRs can show that their practice play can equal game play than someone will make the team

A Qb that does not know the playbook and has been banged up all camp?

You are probably right- the other two have been average at best.

Talent wise Kelly is the best. If he's healthy next year he might get the nod depending on how the Donks QB situation is this year. The QB depth chart for the Donks has the starter as Trevor Siemian OR Paxton Lynch. That's what it reads for the #1 QB

ehh just go. Maybe you get to see mahomes first ever TD at arrowhead. Its preseason but you still could count it.

Hopefully, PM2 will blow him away and take that #2 spot. I mean does anyone feel good going into the season with Bray as the backup? :shake:

Both are unproven at the NFL level so far but I'd rather have PM2 as the backup. So much more potential. Bray knows the whole playbook. If PM2 knows it already than you have him as a backup. Because you know sometime this year Smitty will be out for a game or two.

You don't think that Chesson, our 4th round pick this year, isn't a lock too? I don't see them cutting him. I agree that Hill and Conley are locks. DAT seems to be locked in because he returns punts. I think that Wilson probably makes it, but I wouldn't call him a lock. Robinson has been showing signs of improvement and probably has just as good of a chance as Wilson. So, I see 4 spots locked down, with competition for the other 2 spots between Wilson, Robinson, Jones, and Kemp. And I have no idea which 2 are the odd men out. If I had to guess though, Jones would likely be one of them.

That's not saying much. I was not impressed with him at all. He throws ducks and hopes his receivers make the catch. I don't think that will work in the NFL.

Semen will win by default most likely since Lynch has been horrible.

Wilson does show up in the playoffs which is weird. He leads the Chiefs receivers in TDs in the playoffs. Between Jones and Kemp it will be determined during pre season. If it's dead even you ask Toub who can contribute on special teams. Wilson is actually pretty good on special teams

Every time we called a draw play I'd about lose my mind because I'd tell my son 3&8 draw play and there it is. :cuss: Mother ****ers.

I'm gonna tally up how many draw plays that go for not this season and I'm going go kick that many kittens or anything cute.

It's pretty funny. Donks trade up to pick Lynch in the first round and he can't even start. I would understand if he had a vet in front of him but he's losing the job to a second year starter who was drafted in the seventh round

You mean like Fred Williams?

There will be many WRs who look great in pre-season yet won't make the team. Just like every other year.

When it's 3rd and 7 this year how many times will Reid call a screen play?

Hill
Conley
Wilson
Robinson
Chesson
Thomas

About the same amount as he calls a draw play :#

Good point about special teams. Wilson does have value there that gives him an advantage. Much like the reason that I included DAT as a lock. I didn't realize the postseason stat.

Ugh. I bet i could count on 2 hands how many 3rd and long they actually threw past the sticks. disgusting to even think about.

That's probably right. It would be nice to see Jones or Kemp be able to beat out someone for that 5th or 6th spot, but in reality, the odds are stacked against them.

Reid likes Wilson and I assume that he's going to take more of the underneath routes with Hill at the #1 spot now. And Thomas will return kicks.....so he'll probably stay.

I wonder why they have not tried Chesson at KR/PR yet. He was really good at it in Michigan.

He was the Chiefs leading rusher in 2015 after taking over for an injured Jamaal Charles. He has blazing speed, good hands and decent vision.

How in the world does he not belong in the league?

It sucks to see. But we all know that on 3rd and long, the defense pins it's ears back and goes after the quarterback. You have to get rid of the ball quick and more often than not on 3rd and long there isn't time for Alex to make a longer play develop unless you have a top 5 line to protect the quarterback. Our line will be the best that we've had since Reid has been here this season, so maybe we'll see more longer plays this year. That is, if Alex learns how to not feel phantom pressure.

Shut the **** up, you passive aggressive moron.

FOUR YEARS OF INJURIES

Good question. Maybe they want to have a reason to keep DAT?

LMAO

Tell that to Kurt Warner

True

But west is going in year two of nagging injuries. As we saw last year, when banged up he's not very effective.

I don't know that they'll end up being able to rely on spiller but he's having a good camp

I get where you are coming from. But by 3rd and long I mean 8,9,or 10 to go. not 20. there is plenty of time get Hill or Kelce out 10 yards.

DAT is Tyreek Hill insurance, plain and simple

I'd rather take my chances on the 26 year old guy coming off injuries than the 30 year old guy with 4 years of injuries that limited his output to less than one season of an injured 26 year old.

In other words, West was more effective injured in 2016 than Spiller was from 2014-2016 combined.

Spiller was cut last year after 6 games by the Saints, picked up by the Jets and Seahawks and cut.

I believe Vick will make the team before Stave does

West is hurt again this year though. If he can't make it thru training camp healthy, that's not looking good for the season, especially for your 3rd back.

If he's so hurt that he can't play, put him on the PUP and assign Spiller to the 53, as he'll likely be injured or out by the 6th game, anyway.

Regardless, I just don't see them cutting bait with West because when healthy, he's explosive.

Plus, there's Dead Cap money associated with cutting him but with Spiller, he's clean off the books.