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The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=349477)

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17036008)

Well, if not Creed then Someone else that already has a position. My point was that it just seems a waste to have one person that's all he does is Long snap.

These are pro athletes that have skill and lots of talent. Surely a Justin Watson or a Trent McDuffie or a Noah Gray can learn to hike a football

Watch videos on long snapping/place kicking procedure. It's so precise that you really do need someone there just for that job. They measure the whole process down to a tenth of a second so it cant be a part time player and it really can't be a center cause it would likely mix them up.

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17036017)

Well, then in case of injury we'd lose two positions at once. Another thought is why the hell isn't a QB the place holder for field goals. Seems to me it would open up a pass play opportunity.

Back in the day, a lot of teams used the backup QB for place holder and it did open up better trick passing plays.

My understanding, teams switched to using the punter as the place holder just because it made practice easier.

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17035849)

Send his ass to Chicago for a 1st round pick, plus some.

Trade up to get Brock Bowers.

Chiefs will put up 50 burgers every week.

Been quietly thinking about Bowers on KC, myself. Def. could see his being here.

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17035990)

i really don't get why we delegate a roster spot to long snapper. Why can't Creed long snap ? that extra spot could be used as a WR

Literally every year there's someone who brings this idea up.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/...llege-football

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The Chiefs’ backup snapper is Travis Kelce, a star tight end who works on long snaps in practice from time to time. Kelce is one of the more athletic tight ends to ever play, but the organization has little confidence in his snapping skill.

“It won’t be pretty, but they’ll have emergency ability to come in,” general manager Brett Veach explains. “So Travis does that. And every time in camp, he does great. We get to a mock game or whatever, he’s awful. So you’re gonna have to hold your breath.”

Why couldn’t an NFL team just force some player to really hone in on his long snapping and get him to the point where he’d be good enough to fire off eight or 10 snaps a game against live competition? Then, a team could save a roster spot and find some marginal advantage elsewhere.

Veach acknowledges that some tight ends or linebackers have the skill to be “kickass snappers,” but the modern workflow of an NFL team means tapping that potential would hurt them elsewhere. Teams have their specialists go off into their own world during practice, and if emergency snappers were snapping regularly, they’d lose reps at their primary positions. The league’s collective bargaining agreement also limits some practice time.

“So if you had a linebacker that did it, he would have to stay and practice,” Veach says. “He’s not gonna be able to just leave and practice snaps. So, it’s specialized, and they do their own thing. You’ve gotta have a good one.”

Also, I believe kicking is the #1 way you score points in the NFL.

I think kickers score more than on-field players. So you're going to want maximum efficiency there.

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17035942)

So chiefs planet wants to sign the ****ing center and let the most dominant defensive force in the league walk? Jesus.

It's more like this:

Jones and his $30M AVG while having to let a couple of starters walk.

OR

Draft compensation from a Jones trade + Keeping two other staters(Creed+Who ever else).

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17036008)

It sounds like a great idea until the first time he sails the ball over the punter's head for a safety and loses a game. Then you've just outsmarted yourself just to show up on highlight blooper reels until the end of time.

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17037200)

It's more like this:

Jones and his $30M AVG while having to let a couple of starters walk.

OR

Draft compensation from a Jones trade + Keeping two other staters(Creed+Who ever else).

Would you let Derrick Thomas walk? I wouldn't. Same with Jones. He's a blue chip phenom freakish talent.

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17037454)

Would you let Derrick Thomas walk? I wouldn't. Same with Jones. He's a blue chip phenom freakish talent.

https://media.tenor.com/UwuGApRjFW0AAAAM/wink-lol.gif

Skipped OTAs, skipped the ring ceremony and now camp so far. Jones is not happy with the offer. This is long from being over.

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17035942)

So chiefs planet wants to sign the ****ing center and let the most dominant defensive force in the league walk? Jesus.

yes you ****ing genius chiefsplanet wants to sign the guy who is a direct ****ing path to the most important player in all of team sports

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17037491)

Skipped OTAs, skipped the ring ceremony and now camp so far. Jones is not happy with the offer. This is long from being over.

You clearly hate Jones for some boomer logic reason, so you’re not really worth the time, but …

He was at the White House and the Super Bowl parade. He was sick during the ring ceremony. Not attending OTAs and training camp is standard if you’re holding out for an extension. He’s following his agents advice. Not sure what your problem is, but business is business and it goes both ways between the organization and the players.

anyone intimating that Jones is a bad teammate is absolutely off their rocker

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17037454)

Would you let Derrick Thomas walk? I wouldn't. Same with Jones. He's a blue chip phenom freakish talent.

He’s also almost 30.

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 17037454)

Would you let Derrick Thomas walk? I wouldn't. Same with Jones. He's a blue chip phenom freakish talent.

We're seriously at a point where we are saying that Chris Jones is on par with DT..... Really?

Some of you all either have really short memories or you just say things that sound good in your head but are actually pretty damn dumb when you think about it.

First it was that he was better than Aaron Donald, now he's on par with DT. Jesus