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rabblerouser 01-02-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ndws (Post 9267976)
Jovan had his chance to do right by this city.

wtf??

silver5liter 01-02-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9267979)
Houston played 4-3 end in college.

He can absolutely rape faces at that position. He's around 270 lbs.

Pretty sure he played 3-4 olb

chiefzilla1501 01-02-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9267884)
now ... but before when they blitzed all the time, wasn't that a 3-4?

had that older DC that got sick or something?

Yeah. Jim Johnson. Was a defensive mastermind and the defense has gotten worse since he left. My biggest concern on Reid is I don't think he has any clue what his defensive identity is since Johnson left. And Reid is a guy who has to win on balance where a good offense and good defense complement each other.

Jim Johnson's scheme used a traditional 4-3 base. Two traditional DTs, two every down bigger defensive ends. At one time had an absolutely dominating front Four with Corey Simon, Hugh Douglas, And Hollis Thomas.

I agree with some who have said that a reunion between Reid and Rivera is a very intriguing possibility.

Hoover 01-02-2013 11:21 AM

Another thought

The Chiefs could have scheduled a couple interviews in Atlanta so that Clark could work get a feel for how leading these interviews work. Could have taken Pioli to give him some feedback etc. You never interview your top target first, you want to make sure you have your shit together first.

Hammock Parties 01-02-2013 11:22 AM

4-3 vs 3-4, the main personnel issue here is the OLBs.

If we stick with 3-4 we have to find two new defensive ends.

What's easier, finding two playmaking 1-gap DEs, or finding two decent OLBs who can cover?

You can find starting OLBs in the middle rounds of the draft and in free agency EVERY YEAR. It's hard to find premium DL talent in comparison.

I have no issues switching to a 4-3. You stick Powe and Poe in the midde, Hali and Houston on the ends and roll with it.

htismaqe 01-02-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 9267913)
So what. Pioli's STILL around. No reason for him to be. If a guy SUCKS - Eating $$$$ is part of the deal with a player / Coach / GM etc. He should be GONE. Why on earth would a proven HC want any part of the situation in KC?

Because he's gonna have job security if he fails...

Hammock Parties 01-02-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9267993)
Pretty sure he played 3-4 olb

He spent at least one year playing 4-3 end. There was concern about him coming out because he had only played 3-4 OLB his last season, I believe.

ndws 01-02-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9267992)
wtf??

too soon?

htismaqe 01-02-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9267983)
I am now stabbing my eyes with a #2 Pencil made from Dixon Ticonderoga

We already knew they were in Altanta together...

Hoover 01-02-2013 11:23 AM

I also think its easier for an offensive coach to hand over the reins of the defense to a coordinator. We have a lot of talent on that side of the ball. I think Reid should be able to land a pretty good DC.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9267996)
4-3 vs 3-4, the main personnel issue here is the OLBs.

If we stick with 3-4 we have to find two new defensive ends.

What's easier, finding two playmaking 1-gap DEs, or finding two decent OLBs who can cover?

You can find starting OLBs in the middle rounds of the draft and in free agency EVERY YEAR. It's hard to find premium DL talent in comparison.

I have no issues switching to a 4-3. You stick Powe and Poe in the midde, Hali and Houston on the ends and roll with it.


It certainly can't be much worse.

chiefzilla1501 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9267959)
agreed, i think we transition to a 4-3 pretty easily.


Hell, we might have players that fit a 4-3 better than they do the 3-4.

Don't really agree. Dj, Poe, Houston, and Hali are nice foundational guys for a 3-4 front 7. All we need are DEs, which are more support players. Rivera is a nice possibility because he knows Reid and he knows a ore progressive version of a 3-4.

The Franchise 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9267987)
That's what really got me looking into the conversion; when the talks of Te'o falling started.

Te'o as the Mike with DJ as the Sam and the full conversion to a 4-3 could make this a top 5 defense. You use your 3rd on Rambo to replace Lewis and pursue another DT in FA in case Powe really does suck.

But I don't see Te'o falling out of the top 10, at least not that far out of the top 10.

It will take a miracle for him to fall into the 15-20 range but crazier things have happened. Once it gets closer to the draft....I think he's going to be compared more to Kuechly than to Lewis or Willis. That could cause him to fall some.

Ace Gunner 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9267983)
I am now stabbing my eyes with a #2 Pencil made from Dixon Ticonderoga

Well I read on this very prestigious board Pioli is a lame duck ROFL

jd1020 01-02-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9268003)
We already knew they were in Altanta together...

Actually we knew Pioli was in Atlanta.

People were speculating that Clark sent Pioli to Atlanta and Clark went to Philadelphia to interview Reid because Reid was a "serious interview."


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