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OnTheWarpath15 03-28-2022 03:52 PM

I'm not sure Veach is capable of trading back.

The Franchise 03-28-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16220840)
I'm not sure Veach is capable of trading back.

I also didn't think he'd be taking the route that he is. Anything can happen at this point.

staylor26 03-28-2022 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16220849)
I also didn't think he'd be taking the route that he is. Anything can happen at this point.

That’s a great point.

Everything they’ve done goes against their approach the last few years.

I don’t think it’s about a change in philosophy as much as it’s an evolution going from a QB on a rookie deal to where we are now.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-28-2022 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16220849)
I also didn't think he'd be taking the route that he is. Anything can happen at this point.

In this deep draft class I can. Veach looked like a genius sitting back and plucking multiple gems who fell to them. Trading back allows even more opportunity to do just that. Looking forward to draft.

Chris Meck 03-28-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16220853)
That’s a great point.

Everything they’ve done goes against their approach the last few years.

I don’t think it’s about a change in philosophy as much as it’s an evolution going from a QB on a rookie deal to where we are now.

Oh, I think it's absolutely a sea change, but one that was planned.

Look, you do what you gotta do to get over the hump and win a SB. If you gotta trade your #1 and take on a big contract or two, you do it-you've got a generational talent at QB on a rookie deal.

Now everything is different. You're paying your QB, who's just entering what should be a long and fruitful prime. You need as much good, young, cheap talent as possible to keep the train rolling.

It was pretty predictable; I thought we'd see the exodus start NEXT year, which would probably be a year too late, to be honest-but I expected Andy to be more sentimental about it.

I'm pretty impressed, really. it's pretty baller to send Tyreek packing for that fat package of picks.

Now this draft is super important. Nail it, and we'll own the AFC for half a decade. **** it up, and we're Seattle.

Rausch 03-28-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16220899)

Now this draft is super important. Nail it, and we'll own the AFC for half a decade. **** it up, and we're Seattle.

Spot on.

Love or hate the trade this is what the future comes down to...

Toad 03-28-2022 05:20 PM

The difference between the Seahawks and the Chiefs is a higher foundation though. Andy Reid + Mahomes vs Pete Carroll + Wilson.

staylor26 03-28-2022 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad (Post 16220987)
The difference between the Seahawks and the Chiefs is a higher foundation though. Andy Reid + Mahomes vs Pete Carroll + Wilson.

Also, Veach >>> Schneider

duncan_idaho 03-28-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16220815)
150k followers but I have no clue who this dude is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> unlikely to trade up despite draft capital. May even trade down. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a></p>— Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/1508558655645491208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Farrell is the lead guy for the Rivals network. If he’s getting that info, it’s coming from the college side of things, not pro, for sources. So probably what he is hearing from agents.

He’s generally a decent source of info. Doesn’t make shit up.

RunKC 03-28-2022 05:40 PM

I don’t get trading down unless we trade up. We’ve got 6 picks in the top 103 + 2 more in the 4th.

Maybe the thought is to trade down with one of your 1st rd picks to get ammo to move up from 50 or 62?

I just want to make sure we can get as much talent as we can with the first 4 picks

Monty 03-28-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16220815)
150k followers but I have no clue who this dude is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> unlikely to trade up despite draft capital. May even trade down. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a></p>&mdash; Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/1508558655645491208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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BossChief 03-28-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16220899)
Oh, I think it's absolutely a sea change, but one that was planned.

Look, you do what you gotta do to get over the hump and win a SB. If you gotta trade your #1 and take on a big contract or two, you do it-you've got a generational talent at QB on a rookie deal.

Now everything is different. You're paying your QB, who's just entering what should be a long and fruitful prime. You need as much good, young, cheap talent as possible to keep the train rolling.

It was pretty predictable; I thought we'd see the exodus start NEXT year, which would probably be a year too late, to be honest-but I expected Andy to be more sentimental about it.

I'm pretty impressed, really. it's pretty baller to send Tyreek packing for that fat package of picks.

Now this draft is super important. Nail it, and we'll own the AFC for half a decade. **** it up, and we're Seattle.

Similar risk to if Tyreek were to sustain a major injury. He’s gotten close a few times snd dodged that bullet.

staylor26 03-28-2022 05:54 PM

The thing about trading down is, it would be really nice to have that 5th year option for 2 of our picks. Do we really want all of these guys coming off their rookie deals at the same time?

BossChief 03-28-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16220815)
150k followers but I have no clue who this dude is.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> unlikely to trade up despite draft capital. May even trade down. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a></p>&mdash; Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/1508558655645491208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think it was more likely before the trade, but I think it’s still very possible even after the trade.

The logic follows with how Veach maneuvered the the made to provide additional mid round picks.

Plus, body language. :)

BossChief 03-28-2022 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16221028)
The thing about trading down is, it would be really nice to have that 5th year option for 2 of our picks. Do we really want all of these guys coming off their rookie deals at the same time?

You know the quality of the mid rounds of this specific draft.

Better to have more swings in that span and then decide later who to keep and who didn’t work out.


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