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DaneMcCloud 03-17-2018 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13474929)
Might be that that they don't think he's a scheme fit, switching from a 34 base to a 43.
IIRC, he a 4-3 DT with the Giants under Spags.

They couldn't afford him and had to let him walk.

milkman 03-17-2018 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13474930)
Hitchens and a healthy Ragland are a huge upgrade overall.

The Chiefs don't need to break the bank again on a 2 down NT, they just need an adequate run stuffer at NT, IMO.
I don't disagree with any of this.

I just disagree with the premise that 2 down run stuffers have little or no value.

DaneMcCloud 03-17-2018 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13474935)
I don't disagree with any of this.

I just disagree with the premise that 2 down run stuffers have little or no value.
Oh, I guess I wouldn't say "little" but I don't believe that the Chiefs should be paying a guy $8-10 million per for 2 downs, nor should they spend a Day 2 pick on an NT.

They have pressing needs at Safety and Cornerback and at this point, DE should be a concern as well considering Bailey's been injured the past two seasons and Chris Jones has had two knee surgeries in the last 9 months.

Mother****erJones 03-17-2018 12:56 PM
I still say Veach has one more splash up his sleeve. Is it a trade for young veteran? Not likely. Is it a bold move up into round one to get a Vea, Payne, Derwin James, Jaire Alexander? I think so.

milkman 03-17-2018 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13474933)
IIRC, he a 4-3 DT with the Giants under Spags.

They couldn't afford him and had to let him walk.
Then it makes no sense.

He had a solid, albeit unspectacular, year last season.

BossChief 03-17-2018 12:59 PM
I still say go get Suh if you can make it work...

DaneMcCloud 03-17-2018 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13474938)
Then it makes no sense.

He had a solid, albeit unspectacular, year last season.
Right. I don't get what Ballard's doing up there in Indy.

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2018 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13474935)
I don't disagree with any of this.

I just disagree with the premise that 2 down run stuffers have little or no value.
Last 2 playoff games should tell us as much.

Mother****erJones 03-17-2018 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13474941)
I still say go get Suh if you can make it work...
On one hand, KC could use his toughness and tenacity. On the other, he’s a ****ing dickhead and cares only about money.

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2018 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13474942)
Right. I don't get what Ballard's doing up there in Indy.
That trade with the Jets was the first good thing I can remember him doing in Indy.

Rausch 03-17-2018 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13474943)
Last 2 playoff games should tell us as much.
Once we fix the D (NOT this year for sure) this will all be over.

Ebolapox 03-17-2018 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13474225)
Hamilton?
Alexander Hamilton

bigjosh 03-17-2018 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13474906)
They don't need superstars, just guys that are available and can be average.

Chris Jones is a monster when healthy and with Hitchens, Houston and a 100% healthy Reggie Ragland, the defense will be be drastically improved (not to mention, a healthy Eric Berry).
I agree with you.

Im not about spending a bunch on the D Line. There are serviceable players already on the roster, but the team could stand to upgrade at the position.

My biggest worry on the defense right now is the CB spot, and the safety opposite Berry. Perhaps the team believes in McQuay. We dont get to see these guys in practice like the coaching staff does every day so we are always left to wonder how guys like McQuay and Kpass are doing.

DaneMcCloud 03-17-2018 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 13474956)
I agree with you.

Im not about spending a bunch on the D Line. There are serviceable players already on the roster, but the team could stand to upgrade at the position.

My biggest worry on the defense right now is the CB spot, and the safety opposite Berry. Perhaps the team believes in McQuay. We dont get to see these guys in practice like the coaching staff does every day so we are always left to wonder how guys like McQuay and Kpass are doing.
Yep, that's why I've been adamant about taking a Safety in the 2nd round and a CB in the 3rd since the season ended.

The Chiefs should be able to get a nice rotational D-lineman in the 3rd round.

Sassy Squatch 03-17-2018 01:07 PM
Seems like Hankins has some ability to rush the passer as well. Utilizing him like we did Logan last year wouldn't be a bad idea, if we could get him.


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