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Chris Meck 01-30-2020 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759480)
Unless Mahomes can play on the defensive side of the ball the Chiefs will be giving up points all game long to the 49ers Offense.

You ignorant Chief fans are hilarious.

You actually think Mahomes is all you need.

D Ford led the Chiefs in sacks for you turds last season and you just dismiss him.

Payback will be a bitch.

Honestly ... before the playoffs everyone was thinking Ravens and Patriots. You turds slip into the Superbowl after falling behind to the TEXANS by 24 and the Titans by 10 and you think your shit does not stink?

Stop listening to the media. They are here to blow up the Superbowl. They are usually very wrong.


It's going to be hilarious when the 49ers win by 15+ comfortably .

That Chiefs run Defense is garbage. That pass Defense is not much better.

Seriously this website is full of ignorant uneducated Chief fans.


Silly troll.

You're going to learn all about the Chiefs entire team on Sunday.

All we have is Mahomes?

LOL.

Oh, buddy. You're in for a treat.

Of course, you won't come back and eat your crow like a good boy. You'll disappear just like all the other teams' trolls that stop in here, talk a bunch of uneducated smack and then vanish after getting their ass kicked.

TwistedChief 01-30-2020 05:23 AM

Warren Sharp was on The Ringer podcast. Pointed out that the 49ers pass rush is average on 1st and 2nd down. It’s on 3rd down where they’re something like 10ppt better than the league average (Chiefs interestingly have the second best 3rd down pass rush).

Against that, the 3rd down sack rate on Mahomes is 3.3% which is nearly the lowest in the league.

Also mentioned that the 49ers are very susceptible to play action, 3 WR sets, and are 25th in red zone defense.

Finally, he noted that the Chiefs defense was absolutely horrible against pre-snap motion which Shanahan is obviously going to throw at them a lot.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-30-2020 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 14759763)
I had a dream that somehow, in crunch time, Tyreek Hill ended up on the field on defense. It was 4th and long, and if we stopped them, the Lombardi Trophy was ours.

Tyreek blitzed from the slot corner position, and hit JG for what appeared to be a sack, but at the last second he flipped it to Mostert, who is very fast.

Tyreek got up and chased Mostert down from behind, one yard short of the 1st down.

In the celebration a reporter asked Tyreek why Spags put him in the game on that play. He laughed and said he looked out and saw that we only had 10 men on the field, and that Spags was trying to yell at someone to get on the field, but Reid had wanted to save the time out for Mahomes in case the 49ers scored, so they were going to roll with 10, but he just happened to be standing next to Spags and they made eye contact and without any words being exchanged he put his helmet on and ran onto the field.

Then they cut back to Joe Buck who was trying to discuss the greatest play in SB history, but every time he had to call Tyreek the hero of the game, he threw up in his mouth a little.

I don't know what any of that means, but I did wake up thinking that Tyreek would have been an absolute shut down corner.

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I read somewhere that Hill played some DE somewhere ,maybe in high school. Just think how fast he could get to the QB in a pinch.

tredadda 01-30-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759503)
A weaker Chief's schedule . Seriously if the Chiefs had to play the same schedule as the 49ers had to play then I could see the Broncos or Raiders winning the AFC West.

We played the AFCs #1, #3, #4, #6 seeds this year. Not to mention we also played the NFCs #2 and #6 seeds. This was just in the regular season. Please stop.

tredadda 01-30-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759591)
Still both garbage teams.

I'm sure the Titans were a struggle for the Chiefs. Obviously they were.

Goes to show you just how sad the Chiefs are.

Don't let the media hype fool you. Nobody was talking about the Chiefs until the Ravens and Patriots bowed out.

49ers by 15+

Please explain how your team who was an inch from being the #5 seed and a couple of last second wins from not making the playoffs will suddenly win by double digits. No team has yet been able to do that. How will yours?

rabblerouser 01-30-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by e3263518 (Post 14759750)
I was at that game. It if wasn't for LeSean McCoy fumbling the ball in the 4th quarter, we would win that game.

Actually, we were still moving the ball quite well. I don't understand the baffling decision to punt the ball back to Aaron Rodgers with 4 min left in the game. In fact, everyone on the chat knew we wouldn't get the ball back. It was 4th and 3, should've went for it.

FringeNC 01-30-2020 08:16 AM

Make no mistake, SF has a really good defense -- but was it on the same level of the Patriots this year? I don't think so.

Fat Elvis 01-30-2020 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14759832)
Please explain how your team who was an inch from being the #5 seed and a couple of last second wins from not making the playoffs will suddenly win by double digits. No team has yet been able to do that. How will yours?


The 49er answer to everything.


https://i.imgur.com/vPtZp3G.gif

duncan_idaho 01-30-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14759857)
Make no mistake, SF has a really good defense -- but was it on the same level of the Patriots this year? I don't think so.


It really depends on the matchup.

The 49ers would match up great against the Ravens, I think, because of their speed at the second level.

Against the Chiefs? The Patriots and Chargers are much better matchups because of the quality and athleticism of their secondaries, which let them play all sorts of coverages.

The Patriots’ D also doesn’t have a difference-making player who is only on the field in sub packages like the 49ers do with Dee Ford.

Mecca 01-30-2020 08:43 AM

Here's Mike McGlinchey taking on Frank Clark...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#69 Mike McGlinchey wants no part of Frank Clark. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/CK2ydBmtSY">pic.twitter.com/CK2ydBmtSY</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Channel (@ChiefsChannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsChannel/status/1222743171072847872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14759781)
Warren Sharp was on The Ringer podcast. Pointed out that the 49ers pass rush is average on 1st and 2nd down. It’s on 3rd down where they’re something like 10ppt better than the league average (Chiefs interestingly have the second best 3rd down pass rush).

Against that, the 3rd down sack rate on Mahomes is 3.3% which is nearly the lowest in the league.

Also mentioned that the 49ers are very susceptible to play action, 3 WR sets, and are 25th in red zone defense.

Finally, he noted that the Chiefs defense was absolutely horrible against pre-snap motion which Shanahan is obviously going to throw at them a lot.

Thank you Warren Sharp!!

That's exactly what I was saying yesterday w/r/t Dee Ford - does he actually make them any better or are they actually just really good on 3rd down?

Moreover, their pass-rush win rate fell hard over the latter half of the season when they started playing quality teams. Meanwhile he played more snaps earlier in the season when they were playing poorer offensive lines. So again, it's going to LOOK like the pass rush was better when he was there.

I'm more and more convinced that Ford is just a spurious variable and has very little direct impact on his teammates. It's simply a line that's quite good in pass rush situations, especially against teams that lack premier pass-blocking.

Well okay - let's just keep being efficient on 1st and 2nd downs then.

Someday I'll figure out when Nick Bosa became Reggie White in the eyes of some of these analysts. Yes, he's an AMAZING rookie. Like, among the greatest rookie seasons you'll see. But he's still just a rookie and as a player writ large, he's merely very good. We can deal with very good because our Ts are pretty damn good in their own right.

FringeNC 01-30-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14759894)
It really depends on the matchup.

The 49ers would match up great against the Ravens, I think, because of their speed at the second level.

Against the Chiefs? The Patriots and Chargers are much better matchups because of the quality and athleticism of their secondaries, which let them play all sorts of coverages.

The Patriots’ D also doesn’t have a difference-making player who is only on the field in sub packages like the 49ers do with Dee Ford.

One thing I noticed is that that Patriots had about twice as many interceptions. Sure, there is a luck component to this, but it is still interesting.

DRM08 01-30-2020 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14759901)
Here's Mike McGlinchey taking on Frank Clark...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#69 Mike McGlinchey wants no part of Frank Clark. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/CK2ydBmtSY">pic.twitter.com/CK2ydBmtSY</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Channel (@ChiefsChannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsChannel/status/1222743171072847872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like a good idea to have Clark going after the right tackle all day.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14759586)
Beating the Pack going to be the penultimate highlight of your season.

Fun Fact : the Chiefs almost beat the Packers with half an Oline and a guy who was teaching high school math and coaching high school football at the beginning of the season at QB.

{psssst: you used penultimate incorrectly. You're essentially telling him it will be the 2nd to last highlight of their season. In other words, they'll have one more. I suspect that's not what you intended}

O.city 01-30-2020 09:09 AM

Is anyone else already tired of talking about this? **** i'm just ready for the game.


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