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ChiefBlueCFC 03-28-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16219854)
Everyone has been talking about Veach trading up in the first round and trying to get as high as he can for a WR but I just don't see it. Could Veach trading up have been a product of his "all in" attitude for the last three years?

Is that now shifting to where Veach could be making small trade ups to get the guys he still wants but letting the draft board fall to him?

I don't think they can afford to blow almost all of the value from Hill's trade just to add a WR to this group. And I don't think Veach thinks that either.

Yeah, I think I agree with this. They MAY trade up if the board is falling right. But, if there are trades, I think it will be to get into round 5 or another pick in 4 potentially. Just can't see Veach getting rid of the mid round picks in this draft when they've said that's where the bread and butter of the draft is

htismaqe 03-28-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16219879)
I could absolutely see a trade up, but they won’t give up anything more than a 3rd or a day 2 pick next year.

And yea, it would likely be for an EDGE, not a WR.

I agree.

I've been running mocks all morning and what I'm seeing is there's a decent gap between wave 1 edge and wave 2 edge. That gap isn't there with the WR's.

If we stay put, we'll likely have to settle for a wave 2 edge but a borderline wave 1 WR seems to fall more often than not.

I think this draft sets up nicely for them to just stay put but if they do trade up, the real value is at edge.

The Franchise 03-28-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16219892)
I agree.

I've been running mocks all morning and what I'm seeing is there's a decent gap between wave 1 edge and wave 2 edge. That gap isn't there with the WR's.

If we stay put, we'll likely have to settle for a wave 2 edge but a borderline wave 1 WR seems to fall more often than not.

I think this draft sets up nicely for them to just stay put but if they do trade up, the real value is at edge.

I'm just not seeing any can't miss prospect at WR in this draft. They all have issues in their game. Some have higher ceilings and some have higher floors.

This talk about Williams from Bama being this amazing WR1 is ****ing overblown. If we trade a 2nd round pick to move up for him....it would be the stupidest ****ing thing we could have done.

arrwheader 03-28-2022 09:24 AM

Trade up for an Edge only if your gonna do it. Hill isn't being replaced. Deep draft for WR. If Mahomes is who we all say he is, the receiving game will be fine. Mahomes spreading the ball around and changing our offense isn't what teams are used to. I think this is a good opportunity to reset and adapt and stay ahead of other teams. IF anyone can do it it is Andy Reid and Mahomes.

We are ass at the pass rush. We don't have anything there long or short term. We desperately need reinforcements along the DLine. That cupboard has been bare for awhile now.

O.city 03-28-2022 09:27 AM

You're gonna replace Hill with quantity. You aren't replacing him with a single dude, just put alot of good players out there and figure that out.

You need a DE. Badly.

IF you want a really good one, you're gonna probably have to get to 15 or so.

BigCatDaddy 03-28-2022 10:20 AM

What about trading back with 1 of those 1st and picking up some picks for next year?

Red Dawg 03-28-2022 10:35 AM

We need to trade up for an edge. We have shit for pass rush. Total shit.

smithandrew051 03-28-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16220054)
What about trading back with 1 of those 1st and picking up some picks for next year?

The Ravens traded up to 32 for Lamar Jackson.

They gave up the 52nd pick, the 125th pick, and a 2nd round pick the following year for the 32nd pick and 132nd pick.

That gives you an idea of what kind of comp to expect if we did trade.

htismaqe 03-28-2022 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16220082)
We need to trade up for an edge. We have shit for pass rush. Total shit.

If Johnson and Karlaftis go off the board in the mid-teens, there's no reason to trade up. There's a bunch of guys all grouped together at that point and one of them will be available at 29.

irafreak 03-28-2022 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16219920)
You're gonna replace Hill with quantity. You aren't replacing him with a single dude, just put alot of good players out there and figure that out.

You need a DE. Badly.

IF you want a really good one, you're gonna probably have to get to 15 or so.

Exactly this. Get a bunch of dlinemen. Even if they end up as jags at least they're cheap jags unlike frank Clark the expensive jag. Hate to swing at one big one and miss. It'll feel like the hill trade was a loss.

CaliforniaChief 03-28-2022 10:55 AM

We might be surprised at some of the players who fall to our spot, or at least close enough to give up minimal compensation to move up.

The reason some of the teams ahead of us always draft ahead of us is because they're always making bad decisions, reaching for need, etc.

Dunerdr 03-28-2022 10:59 AM

Every year we hope for someone to trade into the first for a 5th round option. I just dont see it this year. The QB class is shit and if its someone else worth trading for we probably need them just as bad.

dallaschiefsfan 03-28-2022 11:02 AM

Pretty much agree with most comments above. Not sure what we will draft at 29 and 30, but I can see a scenario where we get BPA (likely a receiver will be one of those) and just load up on EDGE/DL in round 2 and 3.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-28-2022 11:07 AM

Not heard anything on Bradberry.

O.city 03-28-2022 11:11 AM

I don't think they take a WR with either pick.

I'm gonna go outside the box and go DT with one and DE with the other.


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