I hate to pick at low hanging fruit, but wtf is this?

Look I get that Mahomes has had 2 incredibly ordinary seasons, but now we're saying he's regressed and that's it? The Patrick we once knew is long gone and we'll never get him back?

I just can't in good faith engage in actual football convos because whenever anything bad happens to the Chiefs, the gluttons for punishment come out of the wood work and start spewing this nonsense.

Honestly can't stop thinking about the first half of the Bills game... they need to force feed this kid targets nonstop into the playoffs. He is more than a go route pony and has now shown it.

This could be the offenses golden ticket and we got a couple of trash games on the schedule to test it out.

We didn’t know what we had. Maybe the most underrated player on the team for a couple years.

Big part of the offensive struggles the last 2 years are not having McKinnon or a guy like him. I miss him so much.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LNuJiPGrHCg?si=NhtQ0v5rrCPIKT_g" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

We HAVE a guy like McKinnon.

Perine is absolutely capable of being every bit the player McKinnon was.

For whatever reason, we keep trying to make Steele a thing when every single snap he's taken should've been one that Perine took instead.

Its bizarre.

McKinnon had some short area speed and slipperiness that we haven't had since he left.

But it's not happening at this point in the season. I agree Perine is the guy. I said as much in the Steele thread, Perine needs all his snaps. All of them.

Seeing that confidence build in him and the chemistry with Mahomes was so nice. Probably a big reason the loss hardly bothered me.

We are on a similar timeline as was with Rashee Rice if they can keep building. Not that I expect Worthy to be the #1 target in the playoffs no matter what, that's gonna be Kelce and Hopkins. But if they can keep cranking out 60-80 yards and many TDs, let's roll.

It's time to pull the plug on Steele, for this year at least.

When Wanya Morris is your LT your RB has to be able to pick up blocks and chip properly.

He’s certainly the closest thing we have. He’s not exceptionally fast or laterally quick though.

I would love to poach Ty Johnson from the Bills next Spring. 5’10 210 lbs, 4.40, 27 bench reps. Really shifty player. Only 27.

He fits that role very well for us

Yeah, I was excited when they signed Perine because of his receiving skills. They're either saving him for the playoffs or the coaches believe he's got nothing left in the tank.

Didn't Hardman line up in the backfield a couple of times Sunday night I even mentioned it to my son during the game.

Yeah not sure why Kingsley was the only one to get the redshirt when Steele’s misses were just as egregious against the Donks.

You could argue he brings value elsewhere, but seeing as he’s a fumble risk, not reliable to convert on 3rd and 1, and hasn’t flashed as a receiver..

https://media0.giphy.com/media/b7MdM...giphy.gif&ct=g

It will be really nice when we can use Kareem as the 3rd down back and he can sit in there and block, or catch balls out of the backfield. I really think that will take the offense to another level from what we've seen. Hunt was lethal as a receiving back in his first tenure here, but we haven't been able to exploit that much so far because he's the only legit RB we have on the squad, so we have to hand him the ball 25 times and have someone else in there on 3rd downs.

He looks like he has plenty left to me when they actually get him the ball in space.

Also makes it an interesting decision because we have CEH behind Steele and....well...****ing nothing behind Kingsley.

On the long incompletion....as I've watched I can't figure out why we blocked it like we did?

Wat

I've said it multiple times. Why are we not working the short game more? Even if its just 5 yards and fall down. We've struggled to get in a rythym for a few weeks. Worthy looked like a weapon catching it coming across with some room to run. Hardman can do it, Gray scored a touch down on a fast pass. Pats standing back there holding the ball. If the ball isn't out at the back of the drop he lobbing it up half ass. Dial up plays where he can take his drop and just rip it.

Worthy caught a deep ball and got sandwiched between two defenders and still held onto it. That was very impressive.

That was genuinely impressive. Thought for sure that would be a breakup but dude ate the hits and kept the ball.

Once Pacheco returns there should be no future role for Steele on this team.

Chiefs have Hunt/ Pacheco/ Perine/ CEH at running back. Way better than most teams.

I was thrilled. That was a good play by the Bills defense and Worthy won. I don't want to see him taking a ton of those hits, but I thought it was a huge play.

I thought for sure he was going to stay down after that, he's lucky the two Bills defenders got the worst of it. If he had taken full impact, he might not have been so lucky.

I may have to rewatch it. It looked like he got ****ing crushed. Maybe I'm just getting injury-PTSD LMAO

I wonder if they're slow playing Perine for later in the year like it seemed they did with McKinnon. Always flet like his speed was lethal later in the year because they didn't burn out his touches early in the season so he had fresh legs

Just keep in mind that Perine was never fast. He’s a bowling ball type of RB, not a burner/twitch runner at all

I'm convinced Burt drafted Worthy as a fit piece. He figured Rice would be the heavy load primary receiver and you need someone to compliment his skill set. McConkey's style of play wasn't that so that's why they went with Worthy.
So far, watching the games I've seen this kid get wide open more often than not. He needs to be more aware when he catches balls close to the sideline. Mahomes hasn't been patient enough to look his direction. The issue is more of him and Mahomes building chemistry together rather than his skillset or play on the field. Andy is utilizing him correctly but the chemistry hasn't been there, yet.

So I just rewatched the clip of Worthy's inc reception on the deep corner/sail route, from the tight pov, and if you just watch Pat's feet, you can see that he doesn't step into the throw, he steps out to his left. Plus, he's a tick late. But both things almost certainly are why the pass ends up being as close to the sideline as it was.

And that not stepping into the target line of the pass is something that Pat has had issues with in the past as well. Iirc, it opens his hips slightly, which causes him to pull the ball to his left. And you can see in the video that his throwing motion looks a little awkward, it doesn't flow or finish well. It's like he bumps into an invisible wall as he's releasing the ball.

It's from the protection. He just doesn't trust it.

Solid day for the rook. If we can get our pass pro together big plays will happen.

this kid is improving as the season goes on. That's what you like to see. He gets open a lot too

As they say in hockey, you don't panic when you're not scoring. You panic when you're not even getting scoring chances. We've talked it to death almost but we all know he could have an extra 150 yd and three touchdowns.

They got him involved a little intermediate today. That out route was so damn fast.

Will be interesting to see how they manage everyone when hopefully Hollywood is back with them.

Ideally in the playoffs, HB would take most of Watson’s snaps (that’s his position in the offense) and Worthy can continue to increase his role even more so.

Yes. It's obvious.

This dude is doing fine and everyone needs to chill out a bit.

Gravity.

https://i.imgur.com/xe5hp87.png

No. He's always been slow. He just kind of sucks as a RB.

He sucks less than Steele.

Certainly in pass-pro.

I'm not one to overhype a JAG RB, because that's exactly what Steele is, but he DOES do a few nifty things when he has the ball in his hands. At the very least, he's shown that he can reliably convert in short yardage. That's one more skill he has than some of the other piles of poop who have graced our backfield over the years.

If he does eventually learn how to block, he's a fine 3rd RB. And you can say all you want about how he's easily replaceable, but why replace him unless you have a demonstrably better guy playing that position?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Worthy (bottom of screen) winning the outside against outside leverage. Sell vertical with slight outside drift, bend inside a few steps, and watch the DB commit upfield then slam on the brakes. Nice route! <a href="https://t.co/fKTwndijmD">pic.twitter.com/fKTwndijmD</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1861437356944847335?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think Perine really helps down the stretch here. He's not a blazing guy, but he has good feel and can really catch it.

I hope they get him some play

I love that little boot motion we used more on Sunday.

Use teams new tendency to spread that line out over there against them. Let 'em do it - -but into it, slide protection over there and just re-set the pocket now with those guys having lost their base.

They'll knock that shit off soon enough. That's just as easy as breathing for PM there.

Love it. **** all the vertical shit. Just keep getting him involved on plays like this and different routes. Eventually you'll hit a vertical bomb but in the meanwhile you can still use him to get downfield chunks at a time.

Man…if Rice and Hollywood were healthy all year…and Worthy having the game slow down at the same time…

Exciting to see this offense get to full strength over the next month.

My God....we Rice and Hollywood had not gotten hurt with the way Worthy is now starting to get it, just an unstoppable group of WR's.

I really hope we resign Hollywood so he can get a fair shot here.

look at this fast as **** boi becoming a volume receiver

https://i.imgur.com/D66zdff.png

dude's gonna finish with like 50 catches and 10 TD

NICE NICE NICE

Should have had at least one more, because he's been OPEN.

Yeah there was a pass where Mahomes "overthrew" Worthy to the right sideline. It was pretty clear that Mahomes was expecting Worthy to be a couple of yards further upfield when he broke outside. Instead Worthy cut outside a couple of yards short of the 1st down marker and wasn't where Mahomes was expecting him. Mahomes was throwing where Worthy was supposed to be, even if it didn't look like it live. These are the kinds of things people in the know mean when they say that a QB/receive need to be on the same page. It's a teachable moment for Worthy that I'm sure he will learn from. Would've been an easy first down.

Worthy taunting the faiders' bench was great. Lenny laughing at Ben Davidson up in heaven.

Only as good as the Tackles would let them.

A+ pick. Numbers show what we are seeing. The guy is open all the ****ing time. Every game. He’s gonna be better than Rashee Rice IMO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These WRs stay open ��<br><br>h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NextGenStats</a><a href="https://t.co/l3ZzqL0ALk">https://t.co/l3ZzqL0ALk</a> <a href="https://t.co/SU4gijCahi">pic.twitter.com/SU4gijCahi</a></p>&mdash; The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1864505474034569431?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dude could just as easily have 800 yards right now.

I have the feeling he might explode if Humphries can give Mahomes another second or two.

The rest of the OL has been much better than they’ve shown the last few weeks.

I think getting a boost at LT will trickle down the rest of the OL and they’ll be ready to fix some shit.

Time to take belt to ass this week.

No idea what Worthy ends up being but it'll definitely depend on Mahomes having time and getting his deep ball mojo back. If it happens then the sky's the limit, certainly Skyy is not the limit, thank God.

But man, I just really, really hope Rice comes back and picks up where he left off. That's a really nice combo.

I know were all excited about 3 peat stuff but that Rice/Worthy 1-2 punch should be lethal the next two years.

His receiving yards O/U on Draft Kings have been only like 31-32 yards each game lately. They’ve been easy wins. He had those few basically nothing games against the Bucs and Broncos but that wasn’t because of him. Before the Bills game Mahomes was adamant about needing to get him the ball and the O/U yards haven’t caught up. Just checked and this week it’s 34.5. A bit higher but still should be easy money, especially with the new LT.

Exactly. Our WR room is stacked all of a sudden!

Rice & Worthy is already very solid, add to that Hopkins and Brown who are a quality duo in their own right, and we’re a top tier WR room in the NFL.

Just gotta stay healthy.

Saw some clip this morning but couldn't find it again and it echoes all this. That Xavier is basically wide open every play and had Pat hit him on all the big ones he's running away with OROY and has about 900 yards right now.

Three extra days to rest should help a lot too.

The over on both Hopkins yards and receptions has been hitting weekly too.

Id definitely sign Hopkins for another year if possible.

As long as Brown helps us this year, I would be fine with him walking. He’s pretty injury prone.

Then draft another receiver.

'Better' is strong.

Especially given how dynamic Rice was looking to start the season. He really had looked to have found another gear.

Different? Certainly. And perfectly complementary to each other.

That's a fantastic matched set going forward.

Pat needs to start hitting the deep shots and start hitting them now.

Some people think criticizing him is sacrilege. I think the greatest football player of all time should be held to a higher standard.

We did this last year with MVS and have done it with Hardman in the past as well where he and the receiver aren’t connecting on deep balls. At some point, it’s a trend and the common denominator is the QB.

I know the LT isn’t great and that affects it. But most of these are throws he steps into and just flat misses.

The excuses are getting old. Start hitting the throws and be amazed at how the offense magically looks fixed.

I’m not saying this because I’m mad at you Pat, I’m saying this because I love you and know what you’re capable of.

Hit the damn throws.

Oh it's 100% Pat. I don't know if he was a more accurate down the field thrower before but the last few years he absolutely has terrible long ball accuracy. And no, I wouldn't trade Pat for any other QB in the league ever. But we watched O'Connel hit deep throws with accuracy coming first game off IR That we rarely see Pat hit, and he did it many times in one game.

IT's def a massive weakness in the offense

He has to have earned more trust with Andy and Pat at this point. He's been coming through.

How great was it that he stepped up on 3rd and 10 for the big 14 yard catch. Five catches on six targets for 41 yards. They've integrated him into the intermediate game.

Yes. Another fantastic game for X, and fantastic that Patrick will trust him in that situation.

I initially thought maybe he didn't cleanly catch that ball going to the ground. Not sure we ever saw a replay, but they ran up and snapped it quick. Chiefs weren't waiting for a replay it appeared LMAO

It really seems to have clicked.

I’m guessing he has 1 huge game by the end of the regular season and ends up with like 650 yards and 6 or 7 TDs.

All in all, not a bad rookie season. Especially when you consider a few misfires between Mahomes and him that left a couple hundred more yards out there.

Next season should see a big jump. Give an entire offseason for Pat and him to work together

Just looked at that play again. DJ gave Mahomes just enough room to step up and make the throw. All the difference!

May have already started happening. Over the last 4 games he's gotten 18 receptions for 201 yards. That's a pretty decent year when you extrapolate it out to a 17 game season. Once they start connecting more frequently on the deep shots it's over.

Worthy is playing with much more confidence now.

He needs more targets.

He almost dropped it.

Last year Rashee Rice started heating up around this time with Mahomes last year and so is Mahomes.

Love that Worthy came back to the ball. I hated that MVS never did that.

Great play kid

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Perine with the pickup. Mahomes finding the lane, and Worthy sitting down AND then coming back to the ball. That’s the good stuff <a href="https://t.co/wtj9Hsztqu">pic.twitter.com/wtj9Hsztqu</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms🏈 (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1865972184256016795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think worthy has unlimited potential. He is always open. He doesn’t seem to drop balls. Runs good routes. And of course has so much speed. When brown comes back, we are going to have one of the best receiving groups in the league. Now we need Mahomes to just start throwing like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. The fact that he isn’t takes nothing away from the reality that he is always able to do whatever is needed to win at the end. And his running skills are under emphasisized. He’s not flashy like Alan and Lamar, but he gets it done. now if he could only start getting rid of the ball and making good throws regularly within the three seconds that are the norm in the NFL.

I agree with a point another poster made that if Mahomes was hitting him better Worthy would likely be offensive rookie of the year. They would be using him even more and that would magnify his contribution.

I counted three 3rd downs that Worthy was not on the field. No surprise this is the result.

He should be on the field on every single 3rd down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of those plays that we&#39;ve seen several times this season in KC. It&#39;s drawn up for Juju with two vertical stems from Watson and Hopkins on third down. The play is there to be made, but Mahomes pulls it down. <a href="https://t.co/FLQFaTFKt5">pic.twitter.com/FLQFaTFKt5</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1866225853291737337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's a tough one...probably coulda fit it in to JJSS but that's one that could go the other way pretty easy.

I'd say having that be a route ran by Worthy would be wiser.