What are you talking about? They have to have someone in that swing tackle spot. No matter when they make the move that guy's salary will be in the top 51.

I gave up.

I have no clue what he's trying to say.

Evidently you get free players after cutdown day or something. **** if I know.

Good luck.

With Jones holding cap space hostage Veach doesn’t have many options to bring in help.

Age does have a few contracts that if traded/cut could free up some money to bring in help.

So to answer your question he makes both Prince and Niang part of the 53 and then trades Prince for a DT that would fit about the same cap hit. Why is this hard to understand?

Stop only focusing on Prince. I gave other examples

I'm pretty sure that everyone knows you're useless no matter where you post. :loser:

Seriously, could you **** the **** off bringing your reeruned DC beef into one of the most active threads in the lounge?

Keep Prince get rid of Niang and his brittle legs...

It's hard to understand because it's complete ****ing nonsense.

Chris should hold out as long as he can. Chiefs can use the $1M+ cap relief each week.

Does it work like that? cool.

I’m just tired of the drama. Honor your contact, then play stupid games.

I was laughing at his fantasies about Chris Jones' dick. Which goes for you or any other homos that make similar comments. Has zilch to do with DC. Maybe you should quit being a ****ing Nancy.

Ikr

I mean, let’s be honest…

Say Jones holds out until week 8, then comes back and helps the Chiefs secure the #1 seed and another SB title. Then gets tagged and traded for nice capital in 2024.

Some fans of other teams will look at it in hindsight and believe it was planned that way all along to give the Chiefs some sort of advantage or salary cap circumvention.

Good.

Remember - we embrace the Black Hat. We don't run from it.

That's ABSOLUTELY what happened. Veach is such a damn wizard that he convinced Chris Jones to to set $25 million on fire (probably on the low end) so we could get a little cap relief. Then he dumped his ass for draft picks.

Because we're the Chiefs and **** you, that's how.

Does he have a no trade clause? Maybe he would like to play for the Houston Texans or maybe some other bottom dweller.

Chris Jones is probably my second favorite Chiefs defensive player ever. But, his tweets, missing the ring ceremony, and not coming back to the team once camp broke, has me ready to accept a trade.

LMAO I do.love the affable front Reid puts on. It's the perfect cover for how brutally ruthless he can be when it comes to the business of football.

"Haha fat guy like cheeseburgers"

*Meanwhile*

Cuts both Fisher and Schwartz with injury designations and tells them to GTFO

The Burnt Vreech era has taught me to not get too attached to any player besides Patrick Mahomes.

I really wanted to buy a Sneed jersey last year. He's one of my favorite players and not a jersey you see a lot.

But then I decided against it. He's probably not going to be a Chief for very much longer, and that's ok.

As long as we keep winning, that's all that really matters.

Oh for sure.

If you’re good enough for fans of opposing teams to develop wild conspiracy theories about you and how something is being rigged for you, you’re pretty damn good.

No one has any wild conspiracy theories about the Carolina Panthers.

Look at us. We’re the villain now.

Without Jones and Omenihu those first 6 weeks get even tougher. The Lions are no slouch, the Jaguars were a playoff team last year, the Jets with Rodgers could be something, and the Vikings should not be totally overlooked either.
If we can get into the playoffs, not concerned about the #1 seed, we will have a good chance with Jones and company then.
Don't forget if he shows up in week 8 it will still take him several weeks to get into good enough game shape to play up to his potential of last season. Then let us not forget that a lot of players get injured after being out so long.

Getting younger and cheaper is normally a pretty good idea when Mahomes is your QB.

I wouldn’t hate a trade. It’s the smarter long term play.

Sucks for this year, but at least we just won it all.

I’ll just trust whatever the Chiefs do.

Frankly, that's what I'd do at this point. KC doesn't need to give in to anyone's demands but Mahomes. It would suck for a (hopefully) ascending defense to take a step back for several weeks, but KC's defenses have ranged from bad to average every year of the Mahomes era, and they've never won fewer than 12 games.

I fully trust Veach to field a competent defense in '24, with or without Jones.

Lol. That Farzin guy had this on Facebook.

Don't like dick jokes?

Yeah, would suck for them, wouldn't it? :D

I can already hear Florio's high-pitched whiney ranting the day after the Super Bowl

"HERE'S A TEAM THAT TAKES AWAY MONEY FROM ITS BEST PLAYERS AND STUFFS IT IN THE OWNER'S POCKETS! AND I'M NOT GOING TO CONGRATULATE THEM FOR IT ANYMORE!!! IT'S NOT SMART! IT'S EVIL!"

Not sure I remember correctly but after we gave Justin Houston a big contract didn't he pretty much mail it in after that?

Hard to say. He got that weird misdiagnosed knee thing like midseason right after signing the extension.

THEY WOULDNT PAY HIM WHAT HES WORTH AND THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT.

THEY WON AND TOOM ADVANTAGE OF HIM AND NOW ARE SET UP EVEN BETTER WITH THE CAP SPACE THEY GOT BACK AND THE PICKS THEY GOT FOR HIM. THE CBA IS SO UNFAIR!

While having Jones all 17 games would be nice it's looking like that will not be a reality. No different than had he suffered a season ending injury. It is what it is at this point. KC will adjust and keep moving forward.

Houston was still pretty useful after he left Kansas City.

If it shakes down like that, the NFL will make it illegal during the offseason meetings.

I want to make more money. The best way I can think to do that is to make less money. Makes all the sense in the world. Glad I didn’t purchase that CJ95 jersey last year. **** him.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — It’s the fourth quarter of offseason preparation for the reigning Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs, who have been practicing for the 2023 season for more than 30 days.


All-Pro defensive tackle Chris Jones hasn’t been present for any of it. He also skipped the team’s offseason program, including the mandatory minicamp.

There’s now roughly two weeks remaining before the Sept. 7 season opener against Detroit at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium, a game that will air on KSHB 41, and the Chiefs appear no closer to resolving Jones’ contract holdout than when camp started.

“There’s been no communication, so I don’t know what’s going to go on there,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid said Wednesday. “But whatever happens, happens. I mean if he’s not there, the game goes on, right? So that’s how it works.”

Jones has one year remaining on a four-year extension he signed before the 2020 season, but he’s reportedly seeking an extension that would make him at least the second-highest paid defensive tackle in NFL history.

“They have to communicate and do their thing,” Reid said of Jones’ representation and the Chiefs’ front office, “and there has just been no communication.”

Quarterback Patrick Mahomes, who is the leader of the offense with Jones positioned as the leader of the defense, said the contract impasse has lasted longer than he expected, but he understands.


“I don’t think anyone expected him not to be here now, but that’s part of the contract negotiation stuff, so I’m not looking down on him or anything like that,” Mahomes said. “He has stuff that he’s trying to get done that he feels like he needs to get done right now.”

'You want to hit the regular season rolling'

Jones matched his career-best with 15 1/2 sacks last season, seeming to vibe with new defensive line coach Joe Cullen. He also notched the first postseason sacks of his career.

Mahomes called Jones “a vital part of this organization” and said he’s eager to get him back in the locker room.

“I know that contract stuff is hard to talk about because everyone wants to make money for their entire family and everything like that, but I know how much Chris loves the Chiefs,” Mahomes said. “He loves being a part of this organization, so I just try to stay out of it and tell Chris how much we love him and that whenever he does come back he’ll be welcomed with open arms. We know he is preparing himself so that whenever he does get back, he can be that dominant player that he always has been.”

Unlike Reid, Mahomes said he does stay in regular communication with Jones, who is “in good spirits.”

“He’s a guy that loves football — like I said he loves playing for the Chiefs — so this is a hard time for all players when this stuff comes up because you want to play, you want to be out there,” Mahomes said. “But at the same time you want to take care of your family, so it’s finding that right spot of where you think you need to be at that time. It doesn’t hurt his relationship with any of us. We respect his decision. At the same time, when he comes back, we’ll welcome him with open arms and know that he can be a pivotal teammate to help try to make another run at the Super Bowl.”


Reid lauded the rest of the defensive line group’s work during camp without Jones.

“It’s similar if someone gets hurt,” he said. “If someone gets hurt, you have to go play and that’s the approach they’ve taken, ‘Chris isn’t here; opportunity for us to play’ and they’ve worked their tails off there. It’s been impressive watching.”

Kansas City wraps up the preseason at noon Saturday against Cleveland at GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium.

I found an article with 4 NFC teams that would be good trade candidates and their argument to support said teams. It's long, so I'm breaking it up into 1 post for each of the teams.

4 NFC Teams That Should Trade for Chiefs All-Pro DL Chris Jones

Detroit Lions
The Lions had the No. 6 offense last season. But their defense ranked 32nd with their rushing defense ranking 29th and their pass rush recording 39 sacks, tied with several other clubs in the middle of the pack. Jones would boost Dan Campbell’s kneecap-biting squad, and he would form a potent 1-2 combo with third-year EDGE rusher Aidan Hutchinson.

Detroit ranks sixth in cap space and could be the best team in the NFC North this season. Aaron Rodgers is out in Green Bay, and the Minnesota Vikings are in a transitional phase.


They are also in the NFC, which never hurts in trade speculation.

The Lions would have to shed some salary to remain under the salary cap and complete this deal. But, if they do, it could push their trajectory even further upward in their pursuit of the postseason.

Dallas Cowboys
Dallas, who ranked third in sacks and eighth in passing defense last season, drafted defensive tackle Mazi Smith with the No. 26 overall pick this year. Smith is a big man capable of plugging up the middle. Jones is a different type of player, and a Cowboys team still seeking to recapture its glory is always a threat to make a splash move.


In recent years, that has been with big-name players leaving the organization more often than joining it. But the Cowboys are one of the few remaining proven playoff teams with cap space left.

They are one of few teams that would not need to send another player out to remain under the salary cap if they acquired Jones.

Chicago Bears

This one would not be based on need – the Bears added three rookies in the 2023 draft to a pair of veterans on the interior of their defensive line this offseason. But none of their players are on the same level as Jones, and the Bears had the worst defense in the league last season.

They ranked 31st against the run and recorded the fewest sacks with just 20, or 4.5 more than Jones had on his own.


Much of their lack of pressure came from an absence of a legitimate pass-rushing threat which they added in Yannick Ngakoue. Still, the Bears have the ninth-most cap space even after a spending spree this offseason, and their general manager, Ryan Poles, came up in the Chiefs organization.

Green Bay Packers

This is a similar situation to the Bears. But Packer general manager Brian Gutekunst has preferred to move on from talent rather than expend draft capital to acquire some during his tenure. The Packers traded Davante Adams in March of 2022 and have been preparing to be without Rodgers since the 2020 offseason when they drafted Jordan Love in the first round.

The Packers had the fifth-fewest sacks and fielded the seventh-worth run defense.

Adding Jones alongside Kenny Clark may seem like overkill. But it would make things a lot easier for Love and the offense to have a defense that will wreak havoc on opposing offensive lines.


Green Bay has the 12th-most cap space remaining and would have to send a player or several out the door to remain under the cap but the payoff could be huge.

Remember before Mahomes how something like this would have ruined our year and we’d have to be depressed for the next 12 months because we knew that the entire season was a waste of ****ing time?

I do.

God I love Mahomes.

Berry’s heel and being day to day.
Not paying Houston.
Tony G’s trade.
Jared Allen.
Jamaal’s injuries.
Bowe being fat.
Glenn Dorsey / Tyson Jackson / Ryan Simms
Neil Smith leaving.
DT’s accident.
Jon Baldwin midnight jogging video.
A year with no WR TD’s.


Jones might hold out? Damn that sucks. Oh well, Mahomes.

:rolleyes:

I need some context on the bolded part.

Percy Snow moped accident

I wish that the Chiefs would do something to shore up the interior of the line now that it appears that Jones will carry his holdout into the season. Like maybe signing Suh. That would help a lot. I know that the cap is tight, but there are restructures available. About $5M could be freed up by converting Justin Reids salary to signing bonus. And the bank of Mahomes is also an option. They did it once this year for about $10M. But there's still another $20M available if they want it. Plus, every week that Jones sits out will free up $1.1M. That money can help sign someone later or carry over to next year.

I never felt the surprise and elation I felt when the Alex Smith Chiefs came out and CRUSHED the Pats in Foxboro to start the season....

...And it all turned to dust the moment Berry's achilles snapped. The D never recovered that year.

The bank of Mahomes is only open before a certain date. They can’t do anything with it now

Enjoy!

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=260640

Not anywhere near as stupid as you, dilphag9.

You, who pounded the table for OBJ's "elite" services saying he was deserving the huge contract he wanted.

You, who pounded the table for making Chris Jones the highest paid defensive player in football.

You, who still faps to this turd even after he's shown that he AND his agent are either functioning in an ongoing diabetic coma, or are clinically ****ing braindead.

This moron is actually saying he can afford to sit until week 8, losing money he cannot possibly recoup, giving his teammates the finger, and doing his best Honey Vadger impersonation on Twitter.

Jones is a regular season hero that only twice has reached double digit sacks, and went nearly a season worth of playoff games before beating some scrubs for a couple sacks to get the monkey off his back.

Jones is wanting to be paid for what he has done. Unfortunately, that's not how this works. You're paid based on what you're expected to do. 30million a year, that's double digit sacks every year and destroying quarterbacks in postseason.

On top of it, the guy is threatening to not honor the deal he signed, a deal that Mahomes took less money for him to get in the first place, so **** Chris Jones, and his rabid spankbank groupies just like you.

He will end up looking worse than Tryeek Hill, worse than OBJ, and it's gonna be ****ing hilarious if he follows through on this dumbass holdout to week 8 threat.

Jones better hire a thug with a pipe to shatter Mahomes' knee, because an injury to Mahomes is the only shot in hell he has of not being proven a window licking reerun sitting out until week 8.

Send this ****face to the Raiders so we can beat his ass twice a year and he can finish his career with multiple straight losing seasons.

Suicide in the parking lot.

Jesse Haynes!

Sooo, this is a stupid Mexican Standoff. CJ wants similar A. Donald $$$$ that HE does not deserve. Donald gets $31 mill a year and deservingly so. CJ wants $30 mill and does NOT deserve to be in that conversation.

Multiple defensive tackles have signed massive contract extensions this offseason, including the New York Giants' Dexter Lawrence (25 yrs old) and Washington Commanders' Daron Payne (26 yrs old), who each signed four-year, $90 million extensions. The Tennessee Titans signed Jeffery Simmons (26 yrs old) to a four-year, $94 million deal and the New York Jets signed Quinnen Williams (25 yrs old) to a four-year, $96 million contract. Chris Jones will turn 30 yrs old this season. My point is that Chris Jones is joining the party too late. When he got his contract in 2020, HE was handsomely paid - today the youth above is relishing in TODAY'S market - Chris Jones is out of the 25/26 year old range asking for handsome funds. We shall see. His demands would CRUSH our salary cap like Eric Berry and Frank Clark. For me? franchise his ass for the next 2 seasons (2024 - 2025) or simply let him walk at the end of this season - He will play what 8 possibly 12 games?

If it’s actually funny and isn’t just an excuse to tell a bunch of dudes about your fantasies, sure.

Brokie Croyle was suppose to be Mahomes before Mahomes

You’re so right. Mahomes, Reid, Kelce, Veach, the Clarks…. I hate this shit but it’s crazy to think that despite losing a top 5 defensive player in the league for half a season, we still feel like we have the upper hand in the conference. We’ll never be thus spoiled again! Cheers bredda!!

You guys, if we can just sign Ty Law or Patrick Surtain or Darrelle Revis, our defense will be unstoppable!!!

Does anyone think one of these teams would trade their 25/26 year old stud DT straight up for Jones? If not shouldn’t this tell us something about paying Jones $30+ million?

CJ wont turn 30 this season. Might be too expensive to tag and that kind of hampers moves that the Chiefs may want to make. But I agree with your take.

This blows.

Very disappointing.

Is Wharton good to go? We don't really have any other 3techs.

Franchise tag him twice? **** no. Let him go in 24 or trade him in October this year.
He is unhappy as hell so the better decision is to get him off the roster and move on. Why drag it out? It's over. Shit teams hang on and drag shit out and we don't have to.

Yeah, I was hoping this would resolve itself, but I don't think that's going to happen. Whether he's just that greedy or getting bad advice from his vile **** of an agent, it doesn't really matter now.

https://media.tenor.com/AZerRA33jvsA...holy-grail.gif

Does anyone know who his agent is? Because i feel this is what social media trolling/dragging was made for. What a f***ing dolt. Just completely idiotic to think he's getting more for himself and CJ doing this.

I don't think they think that anymore. Honestly, I'm not sure he wants to be here anymore.

Why? Who knows but it seems like it is getting personal and doesn't have much to do w money.

No idea, but I'm sure it doesn't matter. They live for this shit and only care about lining their own pockets. Trying to shame one on social media would be like bitching at the devil because the flames in hell are too hot.

I'm pretty much yell at clouds man status, I'm cool if this dude just gets the **** out, or stays (if he'd rather.)

It’s been said that he was really pissed that they let Frank Clark go. Not sure if that plays into this at all. Pretty pathetic if he can’t understand a simple business decision.

I still don’t think he’s missing any games and we’ll see him report within the next week.

It makes too much sense for him.

I agree sweetie.

I would think you're right, but I thought he would have reported by now.

The shadows are winning, lock your doors

Yeah, this thread is currently early in the 4th quarter of a game against the Broncos and the Chiefs are only up by a touchdown and the Broncos have the ball... logic would state everything is just fine (CJ's week 8 was clearly trolling, he's still under contract and everything points to him reporting, and while this should have been over far sooner, it's clearly not dire yet), but CP is in full meltdown mode because, well, CP.

So, we just have to wait for the inevitable Broncos turnover and 4th quarter touchdown drive to seal the game, and everything will be right in the world for another week, until the next slight breeze of adversity blows through and we get to meltdown again.

Absolutely.

I get being frustrated. But mad at the guy? Be mad at him if he’s not playing week 1. Be mad at him if it’s week 3 and he doesn’t have a sack.

I don’t think he deserves all this vitriol yet. But that can change.

Logic would say you guys are right.

I'm not entirely sure the Jones camp is operating from logic right now. I mean, we saw it from Brown's camp just a few months ago.

Has anyone heard what that Chiefs have offered?

Exactly Sweetie!

Yes!

No, what?

are we paying the twitter tards 15 dollars an hour yet?

Such as? There has to be a team willing to do this and as each season goes on it becomes clear that fewer and fewer teams want to trade with Veach unless they feel they will clearly win.

I’m worried because his dad did time when he was in the 4th grade!

I hope you are correct.

Whatever happens- he is still and idiot. It is costing him 50k a day not to be at training camp. Maybe he is not a fan of how hard Andy's camps are but he is already out 1m.

We will see if he and/or his agent is full on mentally handicapped when the regular season kicks in. 1.083 mill per game