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smithandrew051 03-14-2022 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16191964)
I would agree with Manning and Pierce as 1 and 2.

I'm a little surprised Embiid doesn't get more credit. Yes he showed up raw and injuries meant he didn't play in the tourny.

But he was a dominant college player down the stretch before his health gave out.

His performance at Iowa State was insane. He completely overmatched them.

His stats weren’t too absurd in that one, but that doesn’t tell the whole story.

He was clearly on a completely different level around that time.

Embiid would’ve caused a lot of problems in March if he stayed healthy.

KC_Connection 03-14-2022 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16191916)
Josh is one of the top 5 best players I’ve seen in 40 years watching KU

1. Manning
2. Pierce
3. Raef
4. Gooden
5. Josh

Freshman Embiid blows freshman Josh Jackson out of the water. Before he got hurt, he was becoming a two-way monster.

BWillie 03-15-2022 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16191916)
Josh is one of the top 5 best players I’ve seen in 40 years watching KU

1. Manning
2. Pierce
3. Raef
4. Gooden
5. Josh

He sure as hell wasn't higher than Frank Mason, who Id put at 3 on your list.

SithCeNtZ 03-15-2022 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16191804)
I don't remember being all that bothered by it. Looking back at the box score, Devonte really didn't show up which is kind of surprising but maybe not as surprising when you look at the guards Oregon had (Brooks, Ennis, Dorsey).

I also seem to recall Landen Lucas getting absolutely destroyed by Jordan Bell (who contributed to a championship Warriors team a while back) so maybe that isn't so surprising either.

Graham is probably the most misremembered KU player. So many people think he was some consistent scoring guy, but he was actually extremely streaky and prone to really bad stretches.

Lzen 03-15-2022 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16191916)
Josh is one of the top 5 best players I’ve seen in 40 years watching KU

1. Manning
2. Pierce
3. Raef
4. Gooden
5. Josh

That's a pretty good list. Though I might have put frank Mason in there before Josh.

lawrenceRaider 03-15-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16192034)
Graham is probably the most misremembered KU player. So many people think he was some consistent scoring guy, but he was actually extremely streaky and prone to really bad stretches.

Early, yes. He was very consistent as a SR though, and not nearly as streaky as a JR.

lawrenceRaider 03-15-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16191966)
Freshman Embiid blows freshman Josh Jackson out of the water. Before he got hurt, he was becoming a two-way monster.

I'd still like to kick the officials in the nuts for how they allowed Texas to literally beat him up on the court. That was some super dirty basketball.

SithCeNtZ 03-15-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 16192416)
Early, yes. He was very consistent as a SR though, and not nearly as streaky as a JR.

I can't really agree with that. People seem to forget his clunkers because we won so much. No one remembers his dreadful SR year second round game against DePaul where he went 1-7 and we got bailed out by Dokes return. Or even the Duke game we won and he had all of 11 points but Newman stepped up. He shot 9-29 in the run to the final four excluding the 16 seed game. His JR year he had a 5 game conference stretch where he went 14-52 and lost to TCU in the first round of the big 12 tournament where he shot 2-10. I don't say all of this to bash the guy, I like him, he's just more volatile than people remember.

BWillie 03-15-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ (Post 16192034)
Graham is probably the most misremembered KU player. So many people think he was some consistent scoring guy, but he was actually extremely streaky and prone to really bad stretches.

I definitely agree. Very good player but nowhere near on of the all-time greats. He was a TERRIBLE scorer efficiencywise on 2FG. Hes so bad at it he almost should just only shoot 3s which hes elite at.

Bearcat 03-16-2022 07:00 PM

It's a little remarkable Texas Southern started the season 0-7 with losses to Air Force and Louisiana State and then beat Florida in Gainsville for their first win of the year.

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16195566)
It's a little remarkable Texas Southern started the season 0-7 with losses to Air Force and Louisiana State and then beat Florida in Gainsville for their first win of the year.

I should mention for old time's sake that we caught a bad draw in Texas Southern beating Texas A&M CC. They are a far better overall team than them (particularly defensively) and have one of the best shot blockers by block rate in the NCAA. We went from having by far the easiest opponent in the tournament (think 99% chance of winning) to only the easiest opponent in the tournament by a small amount (think 95-96% of winning). Need to be ready.

Buehler445 03-17-2022 02:58 AM

How are we feeling guys?

I haven’t watched much coverage, been working my ass off. Nonetheless I feel like nobody is giving us much of a shot (rightfully so - I’m not heaping expectations on this group). Hopefully that leads to playing loose with nothing to lose.

I think we played pretty good ball in the tournament. We laid some real stinkers in the regular season, but we won the toughest conference. We won the toughest conference tournament. You gotta like our chances, unless we draw a physically dominant team, which I think beats us regularly.

Maybe this is the year we surprise people.

Bearcat 03-17-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16195938)
How are we feeling guys?

I haven’t watched much coverage, been working my ass off. Nonetheless I feel like nobody is giving us much of a shot (rightfully so - I’m not heaping expectations on this group). Hopefully that leads to playing loose with nothing to lose.

I think we played pretty good ball in the tournament. We laid some real stinkers in the regular season, but we won the toughest conference. We won the toughest conference tournament. You gotta like our chances, unless we draw a physically dominant team, which I think beats us regularly.

Maybe this is the year we surprise people.

Relatively low expectations, yet if they make it to the Elite Eight or beyond, I'd most likely feel as if they have just as good of a shot as anyone else... it doesn't seem like there's an goliath matchup waiting for them, but of course they have to get past the craziness of the first few rounds first.

I mean sure, I'll be fake terrified every time KCC tells us how every game is a goliath matchup and the worst possible team to play against ever, but I like the low expectation years (and as a 1 seed LMAO)... easier to just sit back, enjoy the wins, and laugh at the TV if they put up a stinker.

Monty 03-17-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16196175)
Relatively low expectations, yet if they make it to the Elite Eight or beyond, I'd most likely feel as if they have just as good of a shot as anyone else... it doesn't seem like there's an goliath matchup waiting for them, but of course they have to get past the craziness of the first few rounds first.

I mean sure, I'll be fake terrified every time KCC tells us how every game is a goliath matchup and the worst possible team to play against ever, but I like the low expectation years (and as a 1 seed LMAO)... easier to just sit back, enjoy the wins, and laugh at the TV if they put up a stinker.

Same. We'll have a better idea after this weekend, but we should enjoy this weekend. This is THE best weekend for college basketball IMO. :popcorn:

Bearcat 03-17-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Monty (Post 16196191)
Same. We'll have a better idea after this weekend, but we should enjoy this weekend. This is THE best weekend for college basketball IMO. :popcorn:

Yep, today and tomorrow are the only days CBS can't possibly have all games at commercials at the same time, once it really gets going in a couple hours... even after all these years of watching the tournament it's still crazy to me that it goes from 64 teams today down to 16 by the end of the weekend.

And it always starts right as Arizona moves to Pacific time, so it starts at 9am here and the "late" game starts at 7. :D

Prison Bitch 03-17-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16189488)
Trivia Time!!!!! Who is older: Bill Self or “Makers Mark” Few?

Any guesses?

Buehler445 03-17-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16196341)
Any guesses?

I’m going with Self being older.

Prison Bitch 03-17-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16196439)
I’m going with Self being older.

Nope! Guess again!


My FF: Aub>Kent. (Tech, AZ)

smithandrew051 03-17-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16196341)
Any guesses?

You’d have to get pretty specific to know.

DJay23 03-17-2022 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16195938)
How are we feeling guys?

I haven’t watched much coverage, been working my ass off. Nonetheless I feel like nobody is giving us much of a shot (rightfully so - I’m not heaping expectations on this group). Hopefully that leads to playing loose with nothing to lose.

I think we played pretty good ball in the tournament. We laid some real stinkers in the regular season, but we won the toughest conference. We won the toughest conference tournament. You gotta like our chances, unless we draw a physically dominant team, which I think beats us regularly.

Maybe this is the year we surprise people.

I like our draw. I like how we've been defending lately. I like that Martin looks healthy and that Bill was giving him some run in the Tourney title game.

I don't like that Ochai has been off from deep. Or that David McCormack can only defend bigs like him.

Demonpenz 03-17-2022 01:13 PM

FF team easy

arrowheadnation 03-17-2022 04:47 PM

"KU don't want none of Iowa dur dur dur...Dey da hottest team in all a basketball derpy derp." - So-called NCAA BB Experts

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KC_Connection 03-17-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation (Post 16197427)
"KU don't want none of Iowa dur dur dur...Dey da hottest team in all a basketball derpy derp." - So-called NCAA BB Experts

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George Liquor 03-17-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16197478)
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That's gonna be an oof from me dawg

Lzen 03-17-2022 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16197478)
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What a bunch of ****ing morons

Lzen 03-17-2022 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16189190)
Iowa is by far the best 5 seed, particularly the last 15 games. They are #13 in Kenpom.

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George Liquor 03-17-2022 06:29 PM

I'm too old for 9pm tips on a work night

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-17-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16197733)
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I will eat my crow... never thought I would see this team go 6/29 from 3 point range... Many wide open and uncontested. They choked.

DJay23 03-17-2022 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16197735)
I'm too old for 9pm tips on a work night

At least you don't live in EST

Lzen 03-17-2022 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16197735)
I'm too old for 9pm tips on a work night

That's what she said

Bearcat 03-17-2022 06:53 PM

I hope it's over by 9.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 07:15 PM

St Peters up on Kentucky with a minute and change.

Lzen 03-17-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16197839)
I hope it's over by 9.

**** you!

ROFL

Bearcat 03-17-2022 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16198002)
**** you!

ROFL

Shit, Creighton came back and might go to OT... might be looking at like 9:30. :(

TLO 03-17-2022 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDj23 (Post 16197735)
I'm too old for 9pm tips on a work night

Amen

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16189553)
So we're confident we could come out on top in a rematch with Kentucky?

Welp...RIP :D

George Liquor 03-17-2022 07:50 PM

Creighton game into OT

Man I'll be asleep before tip lmao

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 07:51 PM

Could be Double, Triple OT

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 07:54 PM

Now an injury...Channeling the spirit of Mike Hargrove

BigRedChief 03-17-2022 08:00 PM

I remember being told that Iowa and Kentucky were our worst potential games.

That mean we are good to go now?

Lzen 03-17-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16198017)
Shit, Creighton came back and might go to OT... might be looking at like 9:30. :(

That's what it says now. KU game is at 9:30.
Ugghh

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16198060)
I remember being told that Iowa and Kentucky were our worst potential
Games.

That mean we are good to go now?

Well SDSU is the worse rd32 game we could ever ask for in the tourney history.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198068)
Well SDSU is the worse rd32 game we could ever ask for in the tourney history.

Might be datin' Creighton

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16198077)
Might be datin' Creighton

But but. SDSU is a nightmare.

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:06 PM

McDermott not calling timeout at the end of regulation or when up 2 with 40 seconds left is just so incredibly dumb. Didn't matter, though.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:07 PM

Bluejays it is

BigRedChief 03-17-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198090)
But but. SDSU is a nightmare.

Looks like their guard Couldn’t stand the pressure.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16198094)
Bluejays it is

I’m still worried about SDSU kenpom defensive rating.

DJay23 03-17-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16198077)
Might be datin' Creighton

Possibly missing that tall tree too.

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198099)
I’m still worried about SDSU kenpom defensive rating.

You should be...until 0s hit the clock.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:11 PM

Gene Steratore is the CBB rules analyst? LMAO

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:11 PM

Now to worry about Texas Southern and their defense.

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16198105)
Gene Steratore is the CBB rules analyst? LMAO

I looked this up yesterday and apparently he was a CBB ref too. Who knew?

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16198100)
Possibly missing that tall tree too.

He seemed to be in some pain

Bearcat 03-17-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 16198066)
That's what it says now. KU game is at 9:30.
Ugghh

Yeah... maybe closer to 9:45.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16198108)
I looked this up yesterday and apparently he was a CBB ref too. Who knew?

I hope to see him doing baseball as well.

KCUnited 03-17-2022 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16198108)
I looked this up yesterday and apparently he was a CBB ref too. Who knew?

The Jesuits

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16198111)
Yeah... maybe closer to 9:45.

10:45 where I am.

Lzen 03-17-2022 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16198111)
Yeah... maybe closer to 9:45.

It's now saying approximately 9:40.

BigRedChief 03-17-2022 08:15 PM

KCC, the Creighton guard just said they work harder than any team in the nation. Should we be worried?

KC_Connection 03-17-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16198128)
KCC, the Creighton guard just said they work harder than any team in the nation. Should we be worried?

To be determined, but almost certainly. I'll do a deep dive around 1AM if we're fortunate enough to get by Texas Southern.

smithandrew051 03-17-2022 08:19 PM

I’m ready for the boat racing. Hope we can keep it competitive until half at least.

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16198134)
To be determined, but almost certainly. I'll do a deep dive around 1AM if we're fortunate enough to get by Texas Southern.

The humble approach

smithandrew051 03-17-2022 08:22 PM

I hope they cancel the game because it’s too late and just flip a coin to determine a winner. Much better chance of advancing that way.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16198128)
KCC, the Creighton guard just said they work harder than any team in the nation. Should we be worried?

I already am. I’m sure there’s a Kenpom rating we should be worried about.

And the fact that Bruan is still playing.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:26 PM

I just hope McCormick can make a layup. Seems all year his name and missed layups we’re one in the same.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:26 PM

Perimeter D? Can we survive?

Imon Yourside 03-17-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198150)
I already am. I’m sure there’s a Kenpom rating we should be worried about.

And the fact that Bruan is still playing.

This will be Bruans breakout game

RollChiefsRoll 03-17-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 16191916)
Josh is one of the top 5 best players I’ve seen in 40 years watching KU

1. Manning
2. Pierce
3. Raef
4. Gooden
5. Josh

For me, it’s:

1. Jeff Boschee
2. Sasha Kaun
3. Darnell Jackson
4. Terry Nooner
5. Jeff Withey

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16198160)
This will be Bruans breakout game

We can only hope.

smithandrew051 03-17-2022 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198158)
Perimeter D? Can we survive?

I’m sure they have a weird looking unathletic white guy who will have the game of his life.

RealSNR 03-17-2022 08:31 PM

So is KU still deserving of that "Watch out they lose in the first round a lot!" honor?

Bill Self has never lost to a 15 seed. Can't say the same for Kentucky and Puke.

TambaBerry 03-17-2022 08:31 PM

We're two games back I believe in all time wins.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16198173)
So is KU still deserving of that "Watch out they lose in the first round a lot!" honor?

Bill Self has never lost to a 15 seed. Can't say the same for Kentucky and Puke.

Did Duke lose today?

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16198168)
I’m sure they have a weird looking unathletic white guy who will have the game of his life.

Hang on to your seats.

BigRedChief 03-17-2022 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16198168)
I’m sure they have a weird looking unathletic white guy who will have the game of his life.

Wouldn’t be March madness without that usually lonely on a Sat. Night appearance of the male species on national TV.

RealSNR 03-17-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16198179)
Did Duke lose today?

They once lost to a 15 seed

KC Hawks 03-17-2022 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16198173)
So is KU still deserving of that "Watch out they lose in the first round a lot!" honor?

Bill Self has never lost to a 15 seed. Can't say the same for Kentucky and Puke.

Which is funny because the team currently with the longest streak of first round wins is...KU.

Reerun_KC 03-17-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16198185)
They once lost to a 15 seed

Oh. My apologies

I haven’t really pid attention til now.

Birthday. Been doing family stuff all day and hanging with the grandkids.

Thought I missed something.

smithandrew051 03-17-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16190615)
Assuming they beat winner of VT/Purdue, I’m not afraid of anyone our (Kentucky’s) region, including Baylor.

They’d lose to Gonzaga, I think. Holmgren would be a nightmare and Grady, Tyty, and Wheeler would have to have their best 3 shooting game performance on the same day.

If we somehow rematches against Kansas fully healthy, I wouldn’t expect a blowout win, but I don’t see why the result would change in terms of who’d win.

You know what happens when you assume


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