Reminds me of Marty’s Raiders Week every year.

Most Raiders fans are only fans of the team because of some sort of long dead mystique surrounding them.

Pirates. swash bucklin' pirates. Tattooed Gang Bangerz and their whores love Pirates.

I've heard "new attitude" before in coaches.

The Niners said that about Jim Tomsula. The Chiefs said that about Romeo.

That shit lasts a few weeks at most if it's not backed up by actual competent coaching.

Lulz

Reminds me of Chiefs fans and Cassel, Huard, Brodie, Palko, Orton, Quinn...etc

IF THESE TURD COULD JUST MAGICALLY BE ELITEZ WED BE SET!!!

Pierce was smart enough to bring in vet coaches like Tom Coughlin, Marvin Lewis,(for the defense), and Adam Gase as advisors/mentors. He seems to understand he needs coaching help.

He’s def an underdog when it comes to coaching in the AFC WEST.

Tom Coughlin and Adam Gase are known as two of the coaches who have been involved in the most dramatic mismanagement of franchises and people in the last decade. Nice work.

And Marvin Lewis was...the Bengals.

Remember when Reid was fired before coming to KC? Remember the threads in here that wanted him fired before PM? Remember Belichick getting fired before NE? Remember the no name LB coach for the Raiders that got hired as HC? (Madden)

Having said that, I have no clue as to the success for the current Raider staff but judge cautiously.....

The floor was extremely low from the prior debacle and Pierce did raise it. The ceiling for Pierce is unknown, and I'll need to see how the team performs throughout the season before I make any declarations.

Tom Coughlin SB winning coach
Adam Gase SB winning OC
Marvin Lewis SB winning DC

These 3 guys have a wealth of knowledge to help coach Pierce. Although you're not incorrect with your statement, they have also had success in their coaching careers.

True. I have seen that ra ra before. It can help but it all comes down to QB play which I alluded too.

They(defense) did seem to play much harder, better under Pierce than Josh Mcdaniels to get Pierce the gig, but can they keep that intensity up? Most teams cant play with that intensity long term.

Even then their offense will only allow them to go so far. Good enough to keep the Broncos in the basement but no playoffs and losing record.

Wait, what? Are you saying that the Raiders actually were dumb enough to hire Adam Gase in any capacity? Lol, I can't wait to see how incredibly bad that turns out.

Winless season(s)?

We will see how good Pierce is as a coach over the next couple of seasons. I will acknowledge that your owner made the right choice in giving him a chance. He’s making up for his mistake in hiring Josh over that interim coach you all had a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOiYERZc5SQ

ANTONIO PIERCE SPEAKS ON MAHOMES PUPPET SAYS PLAYERS “P*SSED OFF” AT PRE-SEASON PROJECTIONS

LOLOL Heard a training camp interview with Antonio Pierce on NFL radio last night.

They asked about the QB situation he said something like "it's gonna be a competition and we'll choose the starter when it feels right in our gut. You just know. "

Then he went on to say something like "The QB doesn't even need to be a superhero. I'm not talking a game manager, but we have amazing special teams and defense. If we can get AJ to pin them inside their ten, then the defense does their job, get the ball back, our offense is playing with a short field...."


That is some Herm Edwards destined to fail shit right there LOLOL.

"Commitment to Mediocre"

Coughlin won two Super Bowls against Belichick and Brady. He also took the expansion Jaguars to the AFC Championship Game.

That is a HOF resume.

Gase is garbage.

Always Punting is clueless.

I can't wait for Mark to sell. Or Carol to sell. Or the bank to repossess the franchise.

LMAO

Of course he’s not talking game manager. He doesn’t even have one of those

Just spin baby

Read earlier that Minshew has basically won the QB competition at this point. Not surprising, but jeez, Minshew for your starting QB. Wonder if Davante will start making noise about getting traded.

Plus they have two starters on the o-line injured. Ones on PUP

Even Herm wasn't dumb enough to say shit like, unless we get a short field we're ****ed.

That shit is worse than we're going to run the football or whatever.

YIKES.

The difference is Pierce wasn't given personnel control. That might be their savior from falling to the depths of Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

**** Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

You're holding back too much. He was worse than that.

Well Defense is their strength. They played pretty well versus the Chiefs last year and the same unit is coming back with a few improvements.

The Raiders don't have a QB. It's hard to play and win in this league without one. Their only hope is O'Connell slowly improves as he plays. Minshew will just cause them to draft a QB like every other team has done that he has played on.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">��IMAGINE WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:<br><br>In 2023, then <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> GM Dave Ziegler had a deal in place to trade up for the 2nd overall pick to draft CJ STROUD &amp; HC Josh McDaniels OVERRULED Ziegler.<br><br>Josh M. signed Jimmy Garoppolo to a 3-year, $72 million deal instead<br><br>��<br><br>(Via <a href="https://twitter.com/SInow?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SInow</a>, PFF) <a href="https://t.co/PGZuVJfSdq">pic.twitter.com/PGZuVJfSdq</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1823411396618408073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

McDumbass and the faid were custom made for one another. It’s heartbreaking that relationship dissolved.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...H7ljWW1ZmCz-sg

Raiders coach Antonio Pierce named Gardner Minshew the team’s starting quarterback Sunday.

This is 1 of the least talented Faid teams in YEARS

Their defense is gonna be pretty solid I think. But they’re just flushing money by not having an actual quarterback, while paying the talent they have. I think if they had a quarterback they’d be competitive. Not like for a title, but at least as a regular season team.

Their mantra for the season is any drive that ends in a kick is a good drive. Sound familiar?

Imagine trying to hype the fans by fantasizing about punts inside the 10. Not even knowmo does that shit.

Yeah, their QB situation is terrible. Good thing Davante is not a great judge of QB talent; if he was, he’d be demanding a trade asap. And if they had just a middling starting QB, they’d probably finish with a winning season, maybe a playoff berth. Fortunately, Davis and Pierce are idiots.

What was Pierce supposed to do about the QB situation? He canned McDaniels hand picked Jimmy and started a rookie. They could've drafted a QB but when was the last time 6 QB's went in the first 12 picks? During the draft they figured one of the QB's could fall to them and a trade just didn't materialize.

Pierce is hoping Minshew can play just well enough with the weapons he has around him and hope the defense is top 5. With the 3rd year of their DC scheme and the players they have that defense has a shot at being pretty good.

This league is all about QB though and it took the Chiefs 30+ years to figure that situation out.

Bang the table for an actual QB. Could've outbid TB for Baker, maybe. Personally, I doubt Baker would've gone to LVR, unless they offered him $40M/yr, but even then, Mayfield might've stayed in TB. It's just a much better situation all around.

But going with Minshew/AOC was essentially throwing away yet another season of prime Crosby, Davante, and whoever else they have that are quality players. Regardless, they aren't winning the Division, and they'll be hard pressed to even have a winning season with either of those two backup QBs.


And I was unaware that LVR had a top-5 defense. When did that happen?

Key word there was hope.

What I saw in preseason didn't give me much hope of it

Just another burned season for the Raiders.

It's crazy. For the longest time I just assumed the Raiders were going to be bad, every season. Then I was talking to a buddy of mine that's a Raider guy, and he reminded me that their roster is actually pretty good. Except at QB (and coaching, but that's another post).

He was the one that suggested Baker. And Baker with Davante Adams, Meyers, Tucker (maybe the other guy?) and Bowers? He could definitely win some games with that offense. And probably be good enough to get them to the playoffs.


Bottom line, LVR is short a QB. They should've done something besides Minshew/AOC. Just doomed the franchise to another bad season.

Pussies with puppets

Raiders have some dudes but its a complete failure on the front office to not trade up for any of the QBs this past draft. They are wasting away some real talented players.

Yeah, I really expected they'd go get a QB. But instead, because 'Raiders,' they decide that somehow they're going to takeover the Division with a pair of middling/bottom tier backup QBs? All I know is if I were Maxx Crosby and Davante, I'd be pretty pissed right now.

Yeah, QB is the weak spot for sure. Maybe, Minshew does well. This is the first season he will starter a since his rookie year. He will need the defense to be stellar and just do enough to get a few scores. He has pretty good weapons to work with Adams, Myers, and Bowers but RB is a question mark. White (RB) looked decent last year and you might have seen him on Christmas day.

I was saying the Raiders defense has the potential to be top 5. They were coming together in the last half of last year and they have continuality with DC Patrick Grahams third year. The big add this year is DT Wilkins. The front four will be nasty this year with Maxx, Koonce, and Wilkins.

No QB? You aren't relevant. Pray you Lose out till you get one

Well they could always trade up like the Chiefs did in 17.

Don’t buy it.

The Panthers weren’t moving off QB and I have little reason to believe Houston was interested in it either.

Pure bullshit by Ziegler’s publicist.

You sound realistic like most draft heads. Supposedly the Raiders lost out because thy didn't draft the next best QB. Bowsers guaranteed to make those one of those picks look silly.

Kirk Cousins was sitting there. You guys could have been a playoff team if you had gotten him.

Best Raiders fan ever:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some kids just tell it like it is ����<br><br>This <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> fan made the most of his first TV interview. <a href="https://t.co/UqVXxdrP4p">pic.twitter.com/UqVXxdrP4p</a></p>&mdash; Nick Walters (@nickwalt) <a href="https://twitter.com/nickwalt/status/1826309737560113504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL dude is at the stadium spitting that interviewing.

The Raiders aren't going to a SB until they get a QB. They'd have to get pretty lucky this year.

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Did anyone hear their coach presser? He basically said some of his players made "business decisions" and now he is going to make "business decisions"

Raiders firing all of their coaches on offense. Should fix things.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have relieved Luke Getsy, James Cregg, and Rich Scangarello of their duties with the Las Vegas Raiders.</p>&mdash; Las Vegas Raiders (@Raiders) <a href="https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1853308711856656410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 4, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Raiders had a perfectly good tank going on and now they will even mess that up

Sadly, they are going to still be bad enough to get a QB of some sort.

Now the good news is that there really isn't a consensus QB in this draft anyway. I mean...Cam Ward I guess?

Be pretty funny to see them get Sanders.

But Ewers is pretty universally seen as a top 3 QB in this class, no? And I'm old enough to remember watching clips of Xavier Worthy and saying "Man, this guy's QB cost him several hundred yards by just being a big ol' bucket of shit last season...."

So...have fun with that, Oakland.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> are hiring one of the NFL’s most respected offensive minds, bringing in Norv Turner as an assistant to help guide their offense, per me, <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGarafolo</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>The ex-<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> HC is back with the team, as his son Scott takes a more prominent role, too. <a href="https://t.co/6k7185yuTC">pic.twitter.com/6k7185yuTC</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1853829479417991277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

Apparently we are bringing in Norv Turner to make sure we don't.

Turner again? Randy Moss most be coming back

I don't know if Turner's mind is offensive, but his complexion sure is.

Just (somethingsomething), Baby!

https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...WQ&oe=67792431

ROFL

****ing Savage.

Pretty spot on really.

I'm numb at this point and can't muster much GAF.

Raiders are my team and I'll follow them regardless. I just have no expectations.

As long as Mark is in charge, the suckage is likely to continue.

Chin up buckaroo, you'll always have the memories of those meaningless games your team won this year.

With loss by #Raiders today, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid remain in sole possession of most wins at Allegiant Stadium (playoffs included) with 6. Aidan O'Connell and Antonio Pierce have 5. Will they have a chance to add to it next season?

Mark looks inbred, not kidding.

https://x.com/FieldYates/status/1877...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The lone rookie to earn an AP All Pro nod: Raiders TE Brock Bowers.

He set the record for most catches by a rookie ever, most catches and receiving yards by a rookie TE ever, was named to the Pro Bowl, voted an All Pro by his fellow players and now this.

One of the great rookie seasons ever.

Yup.

Same thing with the Pirates.

You don't win with bad owners.

Mark is a dipstick but the fans like him because he is relatable.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Did the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> accidentally put in a pick for the wrong player in the 2023 draft? <br><br>Sure sounds like they might have…<a href="https://t.co/cAq0L9dThD">https://t.co/cAq0L9dThD</a></p>&mdash; Raiders Beat (@RaidersBeat) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaidersBeat/status/1880062524906958924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Apparently Raiders are hiring Chip Kelley for OC

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ome-raiders-oc

If they have a respectable QB that might actually work. His offense was successful but he never understood managing the game as a HC. With someone over him employing some better judgement he might end up with a very dangerous offense.

I've seen some clips with Shady McCoy and Desean Jackson talking about how they didn't like playing for Chip Kelly, but tbf McCoy seems to have a problem with everyone so he's probably the asshole.

Shady is a legit dipshit.

That said Kelly always struck me as an asshole as well. Not that it isn't fairly common with OC's.

Maybe, deserved it's own thread here versus the Raiders suck thread. Chip being hired is not a bad out and the Raiders continue to make great decisions this off season.

No Chiefs fans are looking at the recent hires of the Raiders and thinking they are horrible hires. In fact Chiefs fans applaud these recent hires as positive because they want the Raiders to be a formidable foe.

The Chiefs are playing for their 3rd straight SB so maybe some of the fans are starting to be Patriot like but that is to be expected because they are winners until proven otherwise.

loser LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2x All Pro Maxx Crosby on his future in Vegas and desire to WIN now ����<br><br>&quot;I don&#39;t wanna join the damn Chiefs and get a Super Bowl... that would mean NOTHING to me.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/heykayadams?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@heykayadams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CrosbyMaxx?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CrosbyMaxx</a> <a href="https://t.co/i1a3RcAaP3">pic.twitter.com/i1a3RcAaP3</a></p>&mdash; Up &amp; Adams (@UpAndAdamsShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/UpAndAdamsShow/status/1887546402974122402?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I actually admire that. Kevin Durant may not get it but that used to be how athletes thought before free agency became more popular.

Of course, he could be bullshitting too. Or maybe he hasn't reached his breaking point yet playing for that franchise.

He’ll change his mind in a couple of years..

Furious George may give him a run on energy

He’s starting to get to that Jamar Chase level of dislike for this team.