@JayhawkSlant: BREAKING: DE Daniel Wise picks #KU over offers from Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado and others http://t.co/GbbqL0My17 #kufball

The butt hurt from mu fans is hilarious.

The Bubu Palo situation at Iowa State is crazy.

From Hebron HS in Carrollton, TX. Rivals says he's from Lewisville. Two lakes nearby and DFW airport is just the right distance away. The ball they play in that area is so good that unranked players still attract BCS-level interest.

nobody gives a **** about KU or basketball ROFL

I wish there were Wichita St. fans like you.

Clearly from all the mu fans crying about not being able to play ku.

Most of our rivals would take our best football year too.

Wait I just caught this-is his name pronounced "boo boo"? Please say yes.

What's the point of playing any game? It helps recruiting in St Louis because it will get lots of attention more than the bragging rights game because in St Louis Illinois is not nearly as popular as SLU that's one positive... It's a great rpi game that's 2.
And it actually gets you prepared for the conference schedule which obviously Mizzou needed. Only drawback is you could possibly lose the game but is losing to SLU really a negative pre new arena era made since now not so much

Lol yes. His twitter name is Double Boo

But here's what happened.

Last year he was suspended for being accused of rape. After the charges were dropped because the girl tampered with evidence to make him look guilty he was reinstated. That's when Iowa State started to click last year.

Then after a great showing in summer league and being slated to start this year, the president out of no where decides to kick him off the team after it's too late for him to transfer without sitting out, or for us to fill his scholarship.

Why the **** kick him off the team when charges were dropped and you already let him come back? And why wait so long on top of that?

Nice game tonight Mizzwho. nlm Cheater Haith really has these guys ready to play doesn't he?

Is it just me, or is the whole B1G so overrated this year in basketball besides Michigan State?

And their levels of tournament success are the same, right? Little bit of a difference there.

WSU has been a consistently good basketball program for about 15 years, starting with Turgeon taking over and continuing with Gregg Marshall. Who is an excellent basketball coach and has proven he can reload his roster and continue to find success. Jim Crews still needs to show he can do that for SLU.

Side note: Marshall was my favored choice to replace Anderson when he left for Arkansas.

The class that had Willie Reed and Kwamain Mitchell in it was pretty excellent for SLU. Either of those guys would have contributed for this team as a freshman and played more minutes than Manning or Barnett.

As far as the bolded part, here's the thing. Mizzou is going to play 12-13 nonconference games as part of its schedule year-to-year.

1 of those is going to be the Bragging Rights Game against Illinois. More on that in a minute.
1 of those is going to be part of the SEC/Big 12 challenge. This can be home or away.
5-8 of those will be home games to fill out the home schedule and complete a season ticket package. 5/year are locked down as pure home games. On years when Mizzou isn't competing in a preseason tourney of some sort (because of NCAA limits), they fill the schedule space with home games.
3-4 will be held open to compete in a preseason tournament
2 will be used for ongoing home-home series with other big conference teams like UCLA or NC State. Previously, they held 1 game for this in the nonconference schedule, but are planning to do 2 moving forward because the conference schedule isn't as strong.

That doesn't leave room for a home-and-home series against a midmajor.It's a numbers game. If it was a 2 or 3 for 1, Mizzou could have enough flexibility to do it. But it's not -and should not - going to commit to a home-and-home with an in-state mid-major, especially one that has been as inconsistent as SLU.

Not when the opportunity cost is sacrificing the scheduling flexibility to participate in a strong preseason tournament or not having a slot to play a home-and-home against teams like UCLA or NC State.

Next year and the year after will be very tellling for Crews. He must prove he and his staff can recruit unranked players who play well above their ranking.

Reynolds and Roby at least have some other respectable offers (LSU, Iowa, Vanderbilt - all coaches who can ID talent).

You're exactly right. That benefits SLU, not Mizzou.

Only on Billikens.com can you sell the idea that a Mizzou/SLU matchup would get more attention than Missouri/Illinois... a nationally branded rivalry game that is on prime time ESPN every year. Get out of here with that stuff.

We'll see how popular SLU is next season. And we'll see what its RPI is next season.

Nice pickup for KU.

Mizzou tried to get in on him late, once Jhonny Williams decommitted to go to Notre Dame (remember that name, BTW), but it looks like longer relationships won out.

If Mizzou likes a DE, he's probably pretty damn good.

It will work as long as you keep winning. Unfortunately for Texas, wins don't come easy in recent years.

Are you talking about what you're telling SLU, or what Kansas is telling you? Because those are carbon copy, identical arguments we gave you that you rejected. Yet you use the same ones on SLU.

That's what I'm telling SLU.

Mizzou vs. SLU and Mizzou vs. KU are apples to orangutans.

If... SLU was in a major conference and not a very marginally recognized national name
If... Mizzou and SLU had a hundred years of playing history
If... Mizzou and SLU had played in the same conference and competed regularly for conference titles over several decades

Then it might be apples to apples.

I'm over KU and Mizzou not playing, though. I understand the logical argument you can make against KU scheduling that game. I do think that a MU/KU matchup would be much more profitable than MU/SLU. Guaranteed national broadcast, long rivalry and tradition of hatred, etc.

There's a decent chance SLU moves to the Big East in the next couple of years. Is the Big East still a major conference? Would it be worth it for Mizzou to play a game on FS1? Honestly, SLU-Mizzou in Columbia on the SEC Network would probably get more viewers. There's no reason for Mizzou to give SLU a home and home, they already play Illinois @ Scottrade.

There's a chance, but I don't that it's a "great" chance. Dayton is almost certainly one of the 2 expansion teams if they expand because of its ties to Xavier and it's traditional, consistent success and fan support. Then it comes down to one of the Richmond schools - either VCU or Richmond - vs. St. Louis for the final spot.

Richmond has the advantage of having much more historical success than SLU and has been a similar program recently (though SLU is "up" right now and Richmond is rebuilding).

VCU is not a catholic school, but it has MORE recent success than SLU, and has some national cachet because of it.

I think the new Big East is a major conference, and IF SLU gets in and IF SLU establishes itself as a consistent program in the Big East, maybe a series makes sense at that point. It is more attractive... but probably still not as attractive as using that spot to schedule a good team from another major conference.

Even if SLU gets in, it still falls pretty down the pecking order in that league in terms of setup for consistent success. SLU is looking at being the 10th-12th most attractive program in that league, long-term.

Missouri would be happy to play SLU in Columbia, and that game would be on the schedule next season if SLU would accept it without a return game. But there's the rub.

But you're exactly right about a home-and-home/playing in Scottrade already.

SLU stopped playing us because Majerus wanted two straight games in Chaifetz. Our AD said no and Majerus went into a huff. Now that he's gone, I think MSU and SLU could restart their series. As for Mizzou, I don't expect MSU to ever play them again, in Columbia or elsewhere. Maybe the NCAA or NIT will force a game at some point...

EDIT: Took me a minute to realize what school you were referencing. That's one of the reasons I will always think the name change was not as advantageous for national sports profile as folks in Springfield though. Say MSU, and most peoople think Michigan State, Miss. State, Memphis State....

You're a Missouri State guy?

I didn't know the details of what went down with SLU. Guess it thought it was too big-time for you guys.

I imagine the Bears would get the same response any other team in Missouri would get about scheduling a series with Mizzou: Welcome to play in Columbia and would love to play them in Columbia. But not committing to a straight home-and-home.

MSU. Basketball scheduling has been down lately, Tulsa was the only non-con draw this year. We don't get many top 10 programs to visit Springfield (thank you Shockers), so we need regional games to boost attendance. Liberty and Alabama A&M aren't cutting it.

Come to think of it, I can't remember Mizzou and MSU (SMS) ever playing by choice. I remember the '98 game was part of the preseason NIT. I believe they also played in an early-season tournament in the late 80's.

Not that anything matters this season with Marshall out and Pickens nursing constant injuries.

It didn't matter anyway, at least to me. I had no postseason expectations for this team. I thought next year would be the big leap up.

Mizzou is clearly a superior school and hoops program to SLU, probably one of the top 30 all time but I point out the factoid We can't dictate our schedule ("you owe it to generations of fans to continue!") but MU can. That's really the point. You sorta see the point, but many of your fellow fans can't.

Over the last fifteen years, Wichita State has averaged 22 wins per season, while St. Louis has won an average of 21 wins a season in that time. So again, their performance has been quite comparable.

In addition, before Wichita State's final four appearance, there was no discernible difference between WSU and SLU's success in the postseason.

These numbers surprised me, so I checked on them. I've got SLU at 18 wins/year over the past 15 years, starting with Charlie Spoonhour's last year as head coach in 98-99. 269-213 overall.

I've also got WSU right around 21 wins a year in that time frame. 310-174. So there's a slight difference in record, 3 wins a year, which is significant.

The biggest thing, in my opinion, is that Wichita State has made different runs with different casts of characters. In addition to the Final Four run a year ago, they also made a Sweet 16 run in 2006. They have reloaded several times and made the NCAAs with several different groups of stars.

All of SLU's real significant basketball accomplishments in the past 15 years have been last year and this year, and those are almost all on the backs of two recruiting classes.

And there's still a big gap in tourney success. WSU has two Sweet 16s and and Elite 8/Final Four run in that time frame. SLU hasn't made it out of the opening weekend.

Ah, that would explain the discrepancy, I was beginning from the 97-98 season. Before WSU's final four run last year, I never saw much difference between the stature of SLU and WSU's programs (Your analysis about the programs successful "casts of characters" is sound, however).

Anyone at the Bama game today that can report if there was another standing O for them like last year?




09 Jan 2013 02:06
FINAL SCORE: Mizzou 84, Alabama 68, at Mizzou Arena. Alex Oriakhi leads the way with 16 points as the Tigers improve their record to 12-2. Next game: Saturday at Ole Miss, 7 pm. M-I-Z!


09 Jan 2013 01:36
Mizzou Arena getting loud as the Tigers take an 11-pt, 62-51 lead with 8:36 to play.


09 Jan 2013
looking for my family in the Mizzou Arena crowd. Turner's stand up! Lol


09 Jan 2013 01:25
Always great to see a packed Mizzou Arena for their first SEC opener! Love their passion!! Guess on the flip side it will be less "1st SEC WIN" T-Shirts to pass out ( assuming they win)!


09 Jan 2013 00:51
Mizzou fans: your team is on ESPN and the lower bowl of the arena is 1/3 of the way empty. You guys are tenth in the country. Gotta fill that arena. Maybe I'll have to go out and catch a game. Tickets gotta be cheap there with all those empty seats.


09 Jan 2013 00:35
Prior to the starting lineup announcements tonight @ Mizzou Arena. All the fans gave the Alabama Basketball Team a huge standing ovation to congratulate the school on last nights National Championship victory. I don't say this often but, well done Mizzou fans that showed some real class!

http://first-thoughts.org/on/Mizzou+Arena/

Still working on those links for Saul, Prison Bitch?

I just provided it. I've provided like 7 proving the standing O happened. Do I need to provide 249?

How about those Travis article links?

How about those Boo Clones today?

Garbage.

So did Mizzou give Bammy another standing O?

Like you haven't scoured Tigerboard and already know the answer.

Another standing O implies that the first one was given, despite the fact that Prison Bitch's only evidence of such is a couple of tweets.

To quote Saul Good, Prison Bitch is a ****ing liar.

I would have sworn by now that he would have provided evidence to the contrary. This is a shocking development.

The level of denial is truly a pleasure to witness. It's in your blood as a Mizzou fan. Easier than dealing with reality. Can't say I blame ya.

Link to the event? Because I really wasn't there.

Do all KU fans have lying ****tardiness in their blood or is that just you?

Even better, I think we put up a banner in the rafters for them.

LMAO

Rusty said this was their year, though!

I'd respect that. But not the standing O. I can't respect that, and I doubt they did.

I actually never said that. I said we are better next year, and only lose one guy for the next year.

Yeah it's a good thing Bubu has been reinstated and returns to practice Monday. And we don't play again until Saturday. Perfect time to have a bye week to readjust and get their heads back together.

First time Fred has lost three games in a row since year one when he had three scholarship players.

So did Mizzou go standing O yesterday or not? Any reports?

Does it matter? You are going to lie and say whatever you want to say anyways....

Hey, did you ever get those links Saul requested to back up your bullshit claims?

Didn't think so.

The rest of the Big 12 is pretty scared.

Not sure who this "Bubu" character is. I really doubt he will make that much of a difference.

He made a pretty big difference last year when he came back. He was also projected to start this year before being kicked off the team. But that won't happen now, it however will allow us to start Morris and move Kane over getting our best lineup out there now that Bubu can be backup PG.

I've provided several links to the embarrassment. Various people saying the same thing happened but it really didn't? That can really only mean one thing: a conspiracy. And I got everybody in on it!

:thumb:

Nice diversion....Saul asked for links for you absurd claims about four or five pages back..and despite the fact that several posters have called you out about, you continue to conveniently ignore it.

Your lack of integrity is on full display.

Yeah, B12 fans noticed that and stuff.

LMAO

Integrity? You and Saul have denied standing O-gate despite multiple citations. You're the last two doofuses who should call someone out for not proving something. Just admit it happened, apologize in behalf of your idiot fan base, and we will move on. Cool?

Quit trying to change the subject and provide Saul with the links and proof he requested....oh wait, I forgot, you never post anything truthful, so you don't have any links or proof.

ku fan is ku fan.

I probably would deflect "standing O-gate" too if I were you. It's totally embarrassing to your school. If it wasn't, you'd have just accepted the truth long ago.

You are the only one who cares. Again, where are those links for Saul?

I've never heard anything about this ovation except on Chiefs Planet. I am also not up on the current discussion nor do I care to catch myself up. Does anyone have a credible link to show that it actually occurred?

Big12 has 6 or their 10 teams ranked. Texas is also knocking at the door.

Any other conference only have 3 teams not in the top 35? Didn't think so.

"Big12 has 6 of their 10 teams..." This makes me chuckle.

And props for the achievement.

Do a search and you'll find people on message boards describing it precisely as I saw it on te newscast. That's all you need to know that it happened, unless you believe different people all had simultaneous delusions which were not real.


The Columbia paper mentioned the event as a warm welcome and Greg Hall noted the p.a. announcer even congratulated them
http://www.greghallkc.com/index.php/...evenge-reigns/


It happened, no matter how badly Saul and MN want to deny that it did.

Funny, your link talks about Mizzou destroying Arkansas last in Columbia. So even on the rare times you do attempt to provide proof, you fail miserably...how are those links for Saul coming along?

Read the link again, doofus. It's in there. How dumb can you be?

So then, no.

It's all a conspiracy bro. One that I created. I'm actually kinda proud of myself for conjuring up the whole deal.

?

Refresh my memory what is this about?

Give him a minute or two to find the links.

I am sure he will get right to them as soon as he posts those links for Saul.

MU hosted Alabama last January in Plaige Laurie Arena two days after the their football team won it all. The Mizzouchebags gave them a Standing O. Like a kid trying to make friends in a new school.

The football team was in Columbia at the basketball game & they got a standing ovation from the opposing teams fans?

Am I understanding this assertion correctly?

That's the most absurd thing I've read...at least for today anyway.

I followed one of those links & Greg Hall commented on what the PA announcer said. That's absolutely idiotic that he did that frankly.

As for the other, it looks like some sort of a blog or message board, not exactly credible. I have a hard time believe a standing ovation happened w/o seeing some video corroboration or at least something more credible then that. Simply b/c it's just too absurd.

Regardless of the rest of it the PA announcer's actions are embarrassing enough in their own right. That's absolutely asinine.

I have no doubt the PA Announcer did it. He's terrible and cheesy, even for a PA guy. It's a great mesh with Alden's AD, which is ENTIRELY too caught up on "being classy."

I do not see the stuff from the Columbia Tribune about a "warm welcome" but it's possible I'm missing it.

Oh ya he's a disaster.
It's legitimately like attending a monster truck rally.

I've posted message board comments describing a "standing ovation" occurring. It's really up to you to believe that different spectators saw something that did not happen. Incidentally I also saw it on the news. While I may not be credible, I at least have the claim whereas those disputing it admit they don't know either way.


I suppose it all comes down to if the charge seems believable or not. I think it should be plainly obvious that it is.

If you saw it on the news, then said news channel likely has a web site, and said web site likely has archived videos of their broadcasts, especially if such an event took place.

Link us to the vid, or forever STFU about it.

We are all anxiously awaiting your article links from a week ago.

I wasn't at the game. I watched it, remember that MU won but not much else about it.

As for the rest of that this is the Internet and your "sources" are anonymous posters on other boards and blogs, and we know that generally speaking things tend to get exaggerated by some.

It is also the sort of thing that could be open to interpretation by the viewer if it did occur.

I have never heard of anything so insipid happening anywhere let alone MU. This is a trash talking thread where exaggeration and people screwing around go hand in hand. Hence I find it hard to believe.

As for your credibility obviously we don't know each other. My sense reading your babble the past yr(s) is that you're a decent dude that enjoys screwing w/ MU fans. So, LOL no, at this point I don't believe it.

To clarify the PA announcer bit I do believe. Duncan is right that guy is a jackass.