It is when you are the opposing team. :D

I thought OTWP was a non-combatant in this one.

I didn't think he had any particular allegiance to MU or KU.

LMAO. Unity.

On an unrelated note, I'd like to thank K-State for graciously allowing Missouri to be a part of the telecast this Saturday.

You posted that some Big XII schools were Purgatory... like the SEC has these gleaming bastions of milk and honey. Whatever. I posted that Columbia is no destination, in fact, their own fans don't go to games at the USC flunkie arena.

My prediction is that MU stays because the smart people know it's the right thing to do.

Quit dragging us down. Here, bring this with you this weekend....

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Staying in a conference that might not be here in 5 years is the right thing to do?

I guess I take the KU fan bias to the games. We have a great time. I guess it's like going to Arrowhead when the Chiefs are 0-3. It's still a fun time.

The right thing to do? Stay and wind up being on the outside looking in when Texas and OU bolt?

MU staying is not the best for them. It might be the best for KU, KSU, etc. If KU was getting an offer from the SEC, one would be crazy to think they would not be all over it.

There is no reason not to have a great time.

Correct.

Though I have been to both campuses for both football and basketball games.

And I'll stand by what I said. Regardless of distance (which is the crux of Neinas' comment) I'm betting more Mizzou fans would rather travel to Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville to see the Tigers play football than Lawrence, Manhattan or Ames.

Just like Mizzou basketball fans would rather road trip to Lawrence than Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville.

From my POV, Mizzou loses one thing in terms of tradition, history, rivalry, gameday experience, etc if they leave the B12:

Basketball games at Allen Fieldhouse.

And it could be argued that they'll just replace that experience with Kentucky - while gaining a metric ****ton in destination football with the likes of Ole Miss, Bama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Auburn, etc.

If you listen to Neinas it will be much harder to leave the Big XII and it's not just about football. The SEC's penalties have loopholes if they want to leave. Who's to say five years from now that LSU and Arkansas don't get a better offer from another conference?

LMAO

Where are Texas and OU going to bolt to? The SEC? Wouldn't that be ironic? The PAC already said no.

You have? That wasn't the case when we talked at the BBQ.

There are no exit fees or penalties to leave the SEC. In a true sign of strength, any team can leave at anytime. The schools in the SEC realize that they are much greater and much more profitable by staying together, something that Texas and OU have yet to learn.

I don't want Mizzou to be in a conference where it is tough to leave, I want Mizzou to be in a conference that no one WANTS to leave.

I appreciate how the non-MU fans are all so worried about the best interests of Mizzou. They all think staying is in our best interests. The fact that it helps their teams is just a bonus.

Texas and OU can come on over to the SEC...but they will have to play by the SEC rules, just like every other member of the conference. Texas and OU do not play well with others, they believe they are entitled to special considerations and rules.

Holy shit.

Yeah, hopefully the "smart" people at Mizzou read this thread and keep us in place in the wonderful Big 12. LMAO

I liked the argument that Missouri is Midwest rather than Southern. Then, I looked on a map and saw that there is exactly 1 Big XII team to the North of Missouri and laughed.

The Big 12 is dead. It's just a matter of time. Missouri would be smart to get out now while they have the offer they want rather than wait until the conference collapses.

I wish KU had a decent offer from another BCS conference or had something to offer another BCS conference....because when the conference collapses, KU is screwed.

Pretty much this.

Not to mention the significant increase in revenue and stability SEC membership provides.

I can't f'n wait to go see Mizzou play at Rocky Top, The Swamp, Bryant-Denny, Between the Hedges, The Grove, etc. It is the best athletic conference in the country so of course it will be difficult as hell, but it will be an enjoyable ride. I hope we make the right decision.

Nice response. Neinas has spoken about the various conference contracts specifically.

Remember MU going to the Big 10? This is Part II.

Things have changed since April, 2007.

Wrong BBQ, but OK. I never heard you mention going to a KU game here (either football or basketball), but I take your word for it.

Please, please, please... /KU fan

I'm not sure which BBQ you're referring to then.

My only recollection of meeting you was at Phil's in April 2007.

Wondering if you're confusing me with someone else. Doesn't really matter anyway.

When the SEC reworks its television contracts, what do you think that money is going to look like?

There is no "better" conference for the likes of LSU to go to.

I only know what the Commissioner of the Big XII says. The MU contingent in meetings last week were very positive about the Big XII. These were face to face meetings and were very positive.

It will add bucks, for sure. Not like the Big XII when the conference comes up for renewal in a couple of years. Hell, the networks drool over Texas and OU by themselves and that money will be split among all schools as of today.

Gotta go. We'll know more in a day or two.

Really?

A friend of mine graduated from Ole Miss, and was down there last weekend for the Georgia game. She was nice enough to share some pics from The Grove.

First time Mizzou plays down there, I'm going. I'm not a huge CFB fan, but the majority of the games I watch are SEC games. Would love to see games in those stadiums.

Comparing conference TV deals is tough. The Big 12 and 10 will dwarf the SEC and beat the PAC's contract in 5 years. The SEC is still like 12 years away from being able to get a new deal at which time it will dwarf the other twos.

Did you even read what I posted? Because what you posted here has no relevance to what I posted.

The SEC is going to renegotiate all their TV deals once Mizzou and A&M are members.

I don't doubt they'll try. But I don't see what CBS has to gain in giving more money in a contract that's already signed for the next 12 years.

Definitely could be, which is why I haven't guaranteed anything. I hope we go but who knows what will happen.

Because CBS will want to be part of the SEC network when that comes around. The SEC is going to follow the B1G's lead on this and form their own network in the next few years. CBS would love to be a partner in that.

Yep, hopefully tomorrow we will have an idea what the future holds.

There is already a SEC network. It's with ESPN, it's their tier 2 contract.

I haven't seen too many Mizzou fans puffing their chests this time around. That's for damn sure.

So you think the SEC has gone through this circus and opened themselves up to potential litigation just to add two mouths to feed and no upside for current SEC teams? Does that really make logical sense?

The fans of schools who hide behind Bevo's skirt don't understand your question.

It is the SEC branding with ESPN but it obviously is not a true network. It was signed before BTN showed how lucrative tier 3 networks could be, and SEC insiders say this is one of the main catalysts in driving expansion this time around.

Exactly why MU has to leave.

You haven't paid any attention to the sensible responses, so he appeared to be attempting a new approach.

That's okay - you're just another trembling beaker like HH.

It's absolutely laughable how transparent you fellas are.

Your.

has he ever seen really interesting academia? what, is that some type of rare bird that's found on KU's campus? does this bird teach proper usage of common words?

:p

Wait a minute....KU is known for its academics?

that's what I was wondering...

Starting to see some tweets about a possible WVU announcement for the SEC tomorrow....anyone worried about them stealing Mizzou's spot?

No, we don't want WVU.

I would think Mizzou would be a better choice, but the WVU tweets appear to be gaining some steam, saying announcements tomorrow.

Hopefully the only announcement tomorrow is the one in which the curators authorize Deaton to change conferences.

College National Rank

Kansas
CCAP - 22
USNWR - 38

Missouri
CCAP - 13
USNWR - 42

KU programs ranked in the top 30 among publics nationally are:

1. City Management and Urban Policy (Master)
1. Special Education (Master/Doctorate)
2. Community Health (Master/Doctorate)
2. Occupational Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
3. Paleontology (Doctorate)
3. Public Management Administration (Master)
4. Public Affairs (Master)
4. Speech-Language-Pathology (Master)
7. Audiology (Doctorate)
9. Nursing-Midwifery (Master)
9. Petroleum Engineering (Master/Doctorate)
9. Public Finance & Budgeting (Master)
10. School of Education (Master/Doctorate)
11. Social Work (Master)
12. Music (Master)
12. Physical Therapy (Master/Doctorate)
13. Clinical Child Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Clinical Psychology (Doctorate)
18. Pharmacy (PharmD)
21. Psychology (Doctorate)
22. Healthcare Management (Master)
23. Drama/Theatre (Master)
24. History (Doctorate)
25. Nursing-Anesthesia (Master)
26. Fine Arts (Master)
28. Nursing (Master)
30. Biological Sciences (Doctorate)
30. Political Science (Doctorate)

In that case, I'll sell you some courtside seats for the 2012 Big XII tournament in Kemper Arena at a hefty discount off of face value.

Credible Tigerboard poster(mubobby) posted this:

The SEC is on the docket for tomorrow. Strongly opposed by some members in the admin. However, there is a faction that will get this done. Most of the academics are opposed due to the fact of the financial support the football program will need to remain competitive in the SEC. The new revenues will need to be dumped directly back into the football program, and the academics already dont like how much we are spending in this arena or how much GP is making. Football staff is firmly on board and leading charge. Alden is on board. Deaton sides with the academic faction. Per my source, there is enough leverage in the pro SEC faction to make the move. Deaton was working feverishly to get concessions that would appease the pro SEC faction. Not attainable. Texas wont budge. No fear of litigation, and "buyout" fees are already lined up per boosters.

All signs point SEC unless Deaton can pull a rabbit out of his hat, and at this point looks highly unlikely. Intention will be clear after BOC meeting.

The Pac 12 (or any other conference) couldn't get Texas to budge an inch, I don't know why anyone in the Big XII thinks they can do better.

Wow...best news I have heard today. If this is the case, Deaton should be immediately terminated from his contract for being so foolish and opposing a move to the SEC.

Question is...if Deaton is opposed to the move, and the curators vote for him to look at other conferences, could he decide on his own to not apply to the SEC and stay in the Big XII?

If we pass up on going to the SEC and stay in the Big XII, the amount of hate I have for Brady Deaton will be unfathomable.

I find all this talk hilarious.

LOL

Hialrious stuff from goemaw: Just to get this thread back onto the twitter universe.

BioMechanical Engineering is on the rise...

Null sweat, chummer.

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I just wish that they'd make the decision. I really hope that they move to the SEC. Much better opportunity for the school and it makes common sense IMO; but Common Sense isn't really that Common is it? :shrug:

Deal is done?

A Realtor friend of mine told me she saw Gary Pinkel shopping for houses in Birmingham.

I have heard that KU Board of Regents were heading to Colorado Springs to visit the MWC...

Once MU, Texas and OU leave... KU will only be left with Texas's used dildo and no home...

I heard the pac 12 plane was in Kansas City.

I'll be on the UMSL campus today at 4:00 during the Curator's meeting - any Mizzou fans have a message they want passed along?

LMAO

Any chance you could shit in Deaton's boot?

MAKE THE RIGHT DAMN DECISION!!! GO TO THE SEC!! (Yelling in caps will always get the message across. ) :D

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Are you armed?

I would shit bricks and cry tears of joy while doing so...

F yeah, I would take KU, KSU, OU and OSU to the PAC 16..

In a heart beat....

WVU's goldandbluezone is reporting on twitter that WVU is in regardless of what Mizzou does. Could that mean the SEC is going to go ahead and go for 16 teams? Who would #16 be? I don't see it, but if both Mizzou and WVU, I don't see how the SEC would stay at 15.

PAC 12 is a Pussy Conference. You can take that any way you want and still not be wrong.

I agree. That conference is loaded with some top notch quality pussy...

Shit just look at the USC cheerleaders... :eek:


I would take that over the cesspool joke of the Big 10-1 = 9 conference we have now.