And there are a LOT of people that DO agree with that logic, because there is no tournament.

CFB shouldn't get a pass when CBB was smart enough to realize a tournament or playoff is a better indicator of a champion than a ****ing vote.

And I am pretty sure alot of teamwork would have to happen to agree to a new contract. And these teams dont want to work together anymore.

Texas would want too much of it.

And an invitation from the Big 10 to Missouri and Nebraska would end this "fat TV contract" stuff.

The Big 12 holds no cards - none.

If the Big 10 offers MU and NEB, turn out the lights. Even if the conference survives 2010, Texas will still want its own network to stick around and it will continue to dominate the league until the other 10 teams decide they can do better.

Just keep hoping ND saves you all because it's all you have left.

ROFL

**** it. Imagine a Fox Game of the Week in addition to ABC's?

I'd almost say it's too much but I love college football.

Maybee Texas would wise up and realize that if they don't share voluntarily they will be forced to.

Good luck with all of that.

How the **** do I come off as a MU fan?

Because I'm willing to tell "douchebag" KU fans that, in fact, their shit DOES stink?

Point taken on Roy's attention span.

So does Payton Manning.

I guess. I don't know, I assumed you were one until you came out and said that you have no dog in this fight.

Better than MVC.

How fun is it going to be to tell recruits that they get to play the likes of Wyoming and Air Force twice a year?

Huge selling point.

Yet some of you are still in denial.

:facepalm:

New slogan?

Did I miss the anouncement that this was a done deal?

So this is the history that awaits.

Sure as hell beats history awaits. :cuss:

But seriously I'm not gonna sweat it unless/until its official.

If only Texas and Texas A&M had joined the SEC like they wanted in 1994...

Just posted on ESPN...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5265439

KU may be without major conference

LAWRENCE, Kan. -- For the Kansas Jayhawks and their proud basketball heritage, all this could not be more demeaning.

All of a sudden, Kansas' status as a major player in college athletics has been placed in the hands of Nebraska and -- humiliation of humiliations -- archrival Missouri.

While those two decide whether to abandon the Big 12 for the more lucrative Big Ten, Kansas sits and sweats. A pullout by the Huskers and Tigers could result in the collapse of the Big 12 and strip Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State of the safety and privileges of membership in a Bowl Championship Series conference.

What about the Jayhawks' attractive basketball program, with three national championships, 53 conference titles and 147 consecutive home sellouts? Where conference expansion is concerned, it apparently counts for nothing. Expansion is all about football and television markets.

While the Huskers and Tigers ponder a move to the Big Ten, there are reports -- not denied by the commissioner -- that the Pac-10 may try to snatch away six other Big 12 schools.

If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team.

"It's driving me nuts," coach Bill Self said Tuesday.

Melanie Rollins, a 19-year-old sophomore walking past historic Allen Fieldhouse on her way to class, added: "This is just breaking my heart."

Football has had its moments at the school where Wilt Chamberlain played and basketball inventor James Naismith coached. Nearly 40 years ago, Gale Sayers first flashed his classic moves in creaky old Memorial Stadium. Just two years ago, the Jayhawks upset Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl for their first victory in a BCS bowl.

But last year, Kansas ended the season on a long losing streak and fired the coach.

Now, a lack of football strength and a paucity of people in a sparsely populated state could leave Kansas and Kansas State both fenced off from a major conference.

"I can hardly believe that we've won three national championships and our football team won the Orange Bowl in the past two years and basically, we could come away with nothing to show for that, that we would be penalized because we live in an area that's not as populated as other areas," Self said.

"This is bad for us. It's really bad for Kansas and Kansas State both. I don't get it. Well, OK, I get it. But I don't like it."

Kansas politicians are calling their counterparts in Nebraska and Missouri, urging them to pressure their schools to stay put. The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case.

But as hundreds of youngsters gathered Tuesday for Self's popular basketball camp, the 2009 consensus national coach of the year sounded a warning for colleagues around the country.

"Football is driving the bus," Self said. "There's no question. I'm sure the higher-ups would say it's an entire university situation, but I don't believe that to be the case at all. That's a piece of the equation. But the biggest piece is football.

"To actually change the whole scope of athletics and leave some schools out in the cold that have meant so much for the NCAA and for other institutions, to me, is a pretty tough pill to swallow."

Kansas State president Kirk Schulz attended two days of meetings with other Big 12 executives last week and was disappointed that so little attention was given during expansion talk to the welfare of student-athletes.

"I have a strong concern that we've sort of lost sight of what it is that we're trying to do, with some of these conference realignments," Schulz said. "That was not a strong point at the presidents' meeting."

In the meantime, Kansas sits and stews, waiting for others to determine its fate.

"At first, I thought all this was a joke," said Allison Emmot, who graduated from Kansas a few weeks ago and counts basketball games in Allen Fieldhouse as one of the best parts of her college experience.

"Kansas basketball has such a history. It's shocking that it isn't thought of at all in this."

Meanwhile, Colorado's Board of Regents will meet in secret Tuesday to receive legal advice about the school's possible switch from the Big 12 to the Pac-10, sources told the Boulder Camera.

The university doesn't anticipate any formal action to result from the discussion.

Athletic director Mike Bohn told the newspaper last week that he and other school officials have been led to believe the Pac-10 is on the verge of issuing invitations to six schools in the Big 12 to join its league, including Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

uh...nope.

Texas is going to do whatever the hell it wants to because it knows that the B12 will let it. Texas can essentially fold the B12 on a whim - why would it concede anything?

And Texas could survive as an independant, so the threat of the league collapsing around it doesn't even carry any weight.

Nope - Texas is going to continue to insist on a significantly larger share and it will continue to insist on its own TV network. The B12 made a deal with the devil and now the bill is due...

MU fans, you can probably stop bringing up the "welcome to some shitty conference KU, hahahahaha" shit. It's akin to gloating about winning the lottery to your [now much poorer] neighbor when he has been more successful the whole time. It's not like you school ACHIEVED anything. See, Nebraska can probably gloat, but for some reason they aren't (save the resident NU reerun).

Headline: Pulling out blows up in Kansas' face

This can't be true the Beaker fans told me Nebraska doesn't matter anymore. This isn't last decade.

MU getting restless?

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I will sleep fine tonight.

"If big-time college sports suddenly embarks on an eat-or-be-eaten explosion of expansion, the Jayhawks' great basketball tradition may not hold any more value than the tennis team."

"The presidents of Kansas and Kansas State are phoning CEOs at Nebraska and Missouri. Both football coaches at Kansas and Kansas State have contacted Nebraska athletic director Tom Osborne to plead their case."

LMAO

Where would CU bolt to? I thought Pac10 wanted Texas and was coming around to taking Baylor to get them, leaving CU out?

Please don't say that around Zach... you wouldn't like him when he is hungry.

Actually, the college football champion usually is more deserving than the NCAA Tournament champion. It just ads to controversy because it's up to voters and not games. There is usually more luck to the NCAA tournament champion to be honest w/ you. However, in the last five years, you can make an argument that the best team won the NCAA Tournament. But there are countless times where this certainly isn't the case.

For example, in 1988, Kansas wasn't the best team, but they won the championship. They played the best in that stretch, but no way they were the best team even though the Big 8 was stacked that yr.

It's just funny seeing you and the other beaker fans cry til your labia bleeds knowing that your team isn't relevant.

Every time I start to feel bad about this, I read one of your posts, and I get over it.

You know who deserves this shit? YOU. Enjoy it. I know I will.

God, it would categorically suck if KU were left in the dust and forced to join the MWC. I can foresee a scenario where KU basketball remains in a power conference but football is relegated to mid-major status. That would still suck but not quite as much.

I still have hope that KU has enough pull to land somewhere beside a ****ing mid-major conference...

Some hope.

CU is trying to beat them to the punch.

Oh, and since Metrolike said it's OK for us to gloat, I'll go ahead and leave this right here...

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I read they were relevant in a tennis-team sort of way. All hail the kings of the hardwood. Now can you grab all your stuff? We're moving you from the locker room to the boiler room, need to make space for the assistant football trainer's dogs.

Yeah, one of the greatest basketball programs of all time with a massive alumni base isn't relevant. Fine post. :rolleyes:

I know I've only been posting here 5 years, but I've said numerous times that I have no affliation/fandom towards a NCAA program in any sport.

I enjoyed rooting for Southwest Missouri State when I was there for two years between 94-96, but haven't followed since.

Closest thing I have to a "team" is Alabama football, and that's not anything resembling fandom, I just get a lot of SEC games here and it seems Bama was always on - plus I met Gene Stallings once in high school, the year after he was named coach at Bama. So I watched when they were on, but could ultimately care less about the results.

I've been to two NCAA football games - both at Notre Dame - my wife worked for the parent of a player during the last two Quinn/Samardzija years - so we were given freebies.

And I attended a NCAA Basketball Regional in STL, I forget the year. Met Ashley Judd. There's a post about it somewhere around here.

I'm not for or against anyone here. Just stating my opinions, with some scattered facts.

neg. rep. to Bug for leaving out Mizzou.

How exactly do I deserve it? I stated a fact that MU has had less success than KU in terms of athletics, yet you guys are gloating about our upcoming relegation. What was wrong with my statement?

MU fans are just finally getting a chance to release the condescending one who sucks the penis within each of them. Let 'em enjoy their moment in the sun.

Oh yeah, poor old Metrolike. What did you ever do? ROFL

This post is like farting and blaming it on the dog.

Yea and whats that get them? A place in the Mountain West Confrence.

Yeah, exactly. You could see this on a slightly smaller scale in 2008 and 2009 when their football was skyrocketing. One can only imagine how they would act if our basketball teams were reversed.

BYU will be no picnic, not even @ Allen, a lot of their seniors are 25-26 years old.

Yeah, let's just ignore over 100 years of history, a storied coaching tree, and the guy who freakin' invented the sport of basketball due to TV contracts and money grubbing. To think that KU is irrelevant due to a wholly recent development is asinine and misinformed.

Question: When was the last time the university you support won a National Championship?

Even if none of this happens this process has been funny as shit. Metro has made 158 posts in this thread...Wickedson 134.

The **** ever, fraz. LOL

So now the past matters?

Picture a KU fan, but now imagine him belonging to a relevant conference and wearing black and gold.

Depressed that their football team sucked I'm guessing.

The logo still needs work... you need to take care of the 2md 1.

Tou-****ing-che.

I never argued that it didn't.

He's a nub fan. He can gloat. Even though it's not the 90's anymore his team still generates crazy dollars.

Uh, we're gonna need you to pack up your stuff and move to Storage Unit B.

http://www.salient.org.nz/resources/...ce-06_full.jpg

A Nebraska fan, huh?

I have a few close friends who are Nebraska fans and they'd be embarrassed by this douche. Stay classy, billay.

Bawwww

Alot of people here have. I'm not saying KU basketball is irrelevant, but what I am saying is college basketball is. If it wasn't KU would be going to a better confrence than the Mountain West.

How are you guys gonna tell each other apart when you play?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8VNBpKu2Qw...a+football.jpg

http://www.freewebs.com/godofthegold...rk/mrucker.jpg

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath58;6807626]Uh, we're gonna need you to pack up your stuff and move to Storage Unit B.QUOTE]

:D Where's my stapler? I'm coach of the greatest college hoops team in all of Kansas and I demand my stapler.
I'll blow this place up.

Well, now we know what Husker fans think of MU joining the Big 10.

ROFL

Well, you presented it as such initially. I agree that football is a much more relevant sport in terms of revenue; that's just how it is.

KU basketball will not be going to the MWC. I highly doubt that would happen, but as a die-hard KU football fan - yes, we actually exist - I'm very concerned about the future of our football program.

Sorry for calling you a douche. I'm in a pissy mood for obvious reasons and I typically keep my cool when posting here.

Well that backfired on me, it was supposed to piss off the KU fans. That pretty much kills my nomination for the Douchebag 14.

"I'm gonna set the NCAA on fire."

http://workstudies.files.wordpress.c...n-stapler1.jpg

Get out the mother****ing goollldddssss!

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009...rspoon_400.jpg

What have you heard in this regard? Independent basketball like ND football?

HI reporting that there is a press confrence scheduled for toight.

LMAO

Easy. Mu will be the team with less points when it's over.

LMAO

Honestly though, at first glance...like flipping through the channels skimming games type of glance Iowa and Missouri really look alike.

This is cool for wrestling. Missouri isn't Iowa but they have grown into a good program. Top 10.

Historically we haven't had much trouble with Orange Bowl winners.

Perhaps, but it would be difficult to survive as an independent like Notre Dame as they have a truly national following of very large proportions. The two major sports at KU could split conferences and I've heard rumblings that KU could possibly be looking east for a major conference. Not saying it's going to happen, but at this point I'll take any positive speculation over the doomsday scenarios all of my fellow Jayhawk fans are freaking out over.

Seriously, this whole thing is ridiculous. I think I'll just go into hibernation until everything's set in stone so I don't lose my goddamned mind...

:doh!:

Nothing beats a good rasslin match on the tv and a bottle of lube in my hand.

50% means not much trouble to you?

It will all work out, good luck.

It's a coin toss.

Probably about how you all acted after a slew of missed free throws and a butt-ass lucky tournament slate (way to get to the final 4 without playing anyone higher than an 8) backed you into your 2nd national championship since they started allowing minorities to play with the white boys...

You fellas have the market cornered on haughty condescension.

Wrestling is an awesome sport. One-on-one, strength against strength, conditioning and mental fortitude.
I understand many did not grow up around it and so don't enjoy it but if you could have been with me when 15000 screaming fans were making the field house shake as it came down to the last match in an Iowa-Iowa State or Iowa-Oklahoma meet I bet you would see it differently.

Kick off against Illinois is less than 3 months away.

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