JAMSAM - 6th Man OTY.

To be fair, ISU isn't the worst team in the conference. We ALMOST lost to the worst team in the conference a few weeks back, at home.

Seems odd but this team is clearly better on the road than at home.

Wierd, wild stuff. Played tight as hell at home these last 4.

ROFL

Of course they dont William... OF course they dont..

Yet there are plenty of people on there that do the same thing...

But hey, its your gig...


Anyway, That is a pretty sweet deal for Franks at KSU... Very good for the Conference, I was telling Chitown that I was totally wrong about Franks and his ability to keep the KSU program going...

That is what prompted the call to him, well that and our bet. I wanted to visit with him and talk other things...


He is one cool and very nice Cat.

I'm sure you could almost find one if you looked all day. And of course you were wrong about Frank. You being wrong is the one thing that usually right about you.

Maybe the power of the Octagon of Doom was focused on the wrong team.

Didnt have to look all day, William... But hey, you dont have to be a Dick all the time...

**** dude, was trying to be nice and talk about Franks and KSU's basketball...

But I see its not going to happen... Have a good Sunday....

LMAO

Not that the contract means anything, but it's good to see it get done.

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not happy that we lost to ISU last night (hell, I was a media member & had to remain as impartial as possible about it, I couldn't even swear about it until after the game), but I'm very glad that we've got Frank locked up. I know it's an embarrassing loss and I know we've had more than a couple this year, but Frank's in his third frickin year as a head coach. And this team is just now learning how to handle success.

Here's to having Frank for the rest of his career!

What kind of buy out is in it?

:doh!:

Not sure, but it doesn't really matter. If the administration wants to fire him down the road they will. If he wants to leave down the road, he will.

Burks Frosh/year
Frank Coach/year
JamSam 6th man/year
Cole D player/year
Udoh newcomer/year
Anderson player/year

I don't give one good damn what you were "trying to be nice about". You're the Oklahoma version of ROY.

It sort of does matter. It wont stop anything if a Duke or Kentucky really wanted him and Frank was inclined to leave, but other than that it would make it more difficult for any other non-elite type of school. Heck, even Kansas has a $1 million buyout on Self. $1 million seems to be the going rate for "huge buyout" right now. (We had no buyout for ol Roy at all. We fixed that stupid oversight on the next contract)

Ideally for Frank, he'd want no buyout and a big payout by the school if fired. Ideally for KSU, they would want a huge buyout and no payout by the school if fired. I'd expect both, maybe at least a $500,000 buyout and a payout of remaining base salary if fired.

edit: correction, Self signed a new 10-year contract in 2008 with no buyout. I guess after you win a title, you get the right to say "no buyout, please".

All-Rookie

Udoh
Burks
Henry
Mason-Griffin
Bradley

ROFL

And you just lost to IOWA ****ing STATE at home on Sr Day...

Be bitter old man, be ****ing bitter..... You didnt get their A+++++++++ game or some junk 3, you just got ****ing ran on your home court by ISU and McDermont with Brackens on the bench in OT... You ****ing biffed a game ending layup by the bearded one....

All on SR Night.... Die in a ****ing camp fire, tripping over a flaming bucket of aids you bitter old man....

I kind of disagree alnorth. East and southeast universities like Miami would and could pay a mil. Miami is not basketball elite. But the athletic department is very money elite.

But it's not the buyout that matters. If a guy can be successful in KSU's situation and can receive compensation that will make him wealthy beyond his dreams from somewhere else, that coach leaves.

Coaches realize that staying in one place for 10 years isn't going to happen. They have a shelf life and when success gives you opportunity to cash in, you take it.

How do you think Sadler got nearly a mil from UNL? One good year and he was gone from UTEP.

Looks like 1.2 mil/year. Retro pay to include this year.

What was the total package for assistants? Chitown was mentioning that it would be around 2.2 million range.

Thats not bad change for a HC that is only 3 years in and has had his success... Props to Franks and KSU.

All-D team:

Udoh
Aldrich
Pullen(excellent, has been under the media radar for his defense)
Tiller
Balbay
Davis

The hell is Sutton at?

That's what ESPN is reporting. Congrats KSU fans. It's nice to keep the good coaches in the Big 12. This league is going to just get better which is really scary.

<table><tbody><tr><td colspan="6">All-Big 12 First Team</td></tr> <tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos.</td><td>Ht.</td><td>Wt.</td><td>Cl.</td><td>Hometown/Previous School(s)</td></tr> <tr><td>Cole Aldrich, Kansas</td><td>C</td><td>6-11</td><td>245</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Bloomington, Minn./Jefferson</td></tr> <tr><td>Sherron Collins, Kansas</td><td>G</td><td>5-11</td><td>205</td><td>Sr.</td><td>Chicago, Ill./Crane</td></tr> <tr><td>Jacob Pullen, Kansas State</td><td>G</td><td>6-0 </td><td>200</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Maywood, Ill./Proviso East</td></tr> <tr><td>James Anderson, Oklahoma State**</td><td>G</td><td>6-6</td><td>205</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Junction City, Ark./Junction City</td></tr> <tr><td>Damion James, Texas**</td><td>G/F</td><td>6-7</td><td>225</td><td>Sr. </td><td>Nacogdoches, Texas/Nacogdoches</td></tr> <tr><td>Donald Sloan, Texas A&M</td><td>G</td><td>6-3</td><td>205</td><td>Sr.</td><td>Dallas, Texas/Seagoville</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6"> </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6">All-Big 12 Second Team</td></tr> <tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos.</td><td>Ht.</td><td>Wt.</td><td>Cl.</td><td>Hometown/Previous School(s)</td></tr> <tr><td>LaceDarius Dunn, Baylor</td><td>G</td><td>6-4</td><td>205</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Monroe, La./Excelsior Christian School</td></tr> <tr><td>Ekpe Udoh, Baylor</td><td>F</td><td>6-10</td><td>240</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Edmond, Okla./Santa Fe/Michigan</td></tr> <tr><td>Craig Brackins, Iowa State</td><td>F</td><td>6-10</td><td>230</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Palmdale, Calif./Brewster Academy [N.H.]</td></tr> <tr><td>Marcus Morris, Kansas</td><td>F</td><td>6-8</td><td>225</td><td>So.</td><td>Philadelphia, Pa./Prep Carter/APEX Academy [N.J.]</td></tr> <tr><td>Denis Clemente, Kansas State</td><td>G</td><td>6-1</td><td>175</td><td>Sr.</td><td>Bayamon, Puerto Rico/Calusa Prep/Miami [Fla.]</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6"> </td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6">All-Big 12 Third Team</td></tr> <tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos.</td><td>Ht.</td><td>Wt.</td><td>Cl.</td><td>Hometown/Previous School(s)</td></tr> <tr><td>Tweety Carter, Baylor</td><td>G</td><td>5-11</td><td>185</td><td>Sr.</td><td>Reserve, La./Reserve Christian School</td></tr> <tr><td>Cory Higgins, Colorado</td><td>G</td><td>6-5</td><td>190</td><td>Jr.</td><td>Danville, Calif./Monta Vista/The Pendleton School [Fla.]</td></tr> <tr><td>Kim English, Missouri</td><td>G</td><td>6-6</td><td>200</td><td>So.</td><td>Baltimore, Md./Randallstown/Notre Dame Prep</td></tr> <tr><td>Tommy Mason-Griffin, Oklahoma</td><td>G</td><td>5-11</td><td>203</td><td>Fr.</td><td>Houston, Texas/James Madison</td></tr> <tr><td>Bryan Davis, Texas A&M</td><td>F</td><td>6-9</td><td>250</td><td>Sr.</td><td>Dallas, Texas/Grand Prairie</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="6"> </td></tr> </tbody></table> All-Big 12 Honorable Mention (Listed alphabetically by school)
Alec Burks (Colorado), Marquis Gilstrap (Iowa State), Xavier Henry (Kansas), Zaire Taylor (Missouri), Willie Warren (Oklahoma), Obi Muonelo (Oklahoma State), Avery Bradley (Texas), John Roberson (Texas Tech), Mike Singletary (Texas Tech)

Yes, ROY_run, we know KSU lost on Sr. Day. And I'm the one who pointed out to your anoxic brain that there was no "A++/35 foot 3pt" situation. You were. Remember ROY_run?

ROY_run,The Don Of The Phogtard mafia strikes again.

Reerun, I wouldn't call a 3 pt overtime loss getting run out of your home court.

IS had nothing to lose. KSU took a W for granted, and looked flat out beat. Been a long week. I expect in the next 4 days they will get rested and refocused.

Clones shot 50% from 3, and the Cats a dismal and season low 13%. Thats the story of the game right there, PERIOD.

So did Sloan tie with Collins or Pullen?

You have to remember who you're dealing with in this situation. If ignorance were Corn Flakes, ROY_run would be General Mills.

Still bitter ? Dang it dude, you need to chill. Take a deep breath and relax.

FTR, props on keeping Martin, even though he will be a pain in the butt for KU for years to come.

Props to Martin on COTY.

I never watched the game, know very little about it other than what is posted.

Who picked Balbay? He's a scrub.

Congrats on getting Martin an extension. He deserves it. Good for the big 12.

Fair enough, I just go overly excited dealing with the CoMo of KSU fans... IT wont happen again... FFvB will see to that...


Also congrats on keeping Franks! He is going to be a pain in the ass for the Jayhawks for years to come... Lets hope this brings more to the Big 12 as a conference overall...

MANHATTAN, Kan. - Kansas State Director of Athletics John Currie announced Sunday that men's basketball coach Frank Martin has agreed to a new multi-year contract, securing the services of the head coach through the 2014-15 season.

The contract, which was approved by the K-State Athletics, Inc., Board of Directors and President Kirk Schulz, includes average annual compensation for the 2010-11 through 2014-15 years of $1.55 million (base salary plus retention bonuses).

"Coach Martin is a tremendous fit for Kansas State," Currie said. "With this contract in place, Coach Martin has made a long-term commitment to K-State and K-State has made a long-term commitment to him. We are confident that under his leadership K-State basketball will continue to elevate its national presence."

The contract also includes significant performance incentives that could reward Martin up to an additional 32-percent of his base salary for each contract year. In addition, he will earn $25,000 if selected by the Big 12 Conference as the men's basketball coach of the year and $50,000 if honored as National Coach of the Year by the National Basketball Coaches Association and/or Associated Press.

There are also incentives that could reward Martin up to an additional $100,000 annually for APR and graduation rate achievements. The retention incentive components of the contract call for a $250,000 payment if Martin remains as coach through the 2011-12 season, and an additional $500,000 payment if he remains the head coach of the Wildcats through the 2014-15 season.

"I am extremely grateful to Dr. Kirk Schulz and John Currie for their commitment to my staff and me as we continue to lead the basketball program here at K-State," Martin said. "We, along with our families, are blessed to be a part of this university, the Manhattan community and to have such loyal and wonderful fans."

Coach Martin also will receive a $462,800 signing bonus for signing the contract by March 8, 2010. Half the signing bonus would be forfeited if he left K-State prior to the beginning of the 2010-2011 season.

"As I watched and evaluated our basketball team and staff since my arrival last June, it became evident that Coach Martin has transformed our program in many ways," Currie said. "Not only has he put a championship-level product on the court, but he has put a strong emphasis on the improvement of the team's APR and sustainment of a high graduation rate of our student-athletes. He and Anya have created a family atmosphere for the program and have been terrific in promoting the overall goals of the department and university."

Under terms of the new contract, Martin will be paid a base salary of $1.2 million in the 2010-11 contract year, $1.3 million in 2011-12, $1.4 million in 2012-13, $1.5 million in 2013-14 and $1.6 million in 2014-15.

"Coach Martin and our men's basketball program have provided our University tremendous national exposure this season and we are grateful for his leadership and representation of Kansas State University," added Schulz, who recently announced a proposed university goal for Kansas State University to be recognized nationally as a top 50 public research university. "Those who support Kansas State want to invest in a university they perceive as moving upward to new heights of achievement in academic and athletic endeavors. We appreciate Coach Martin's commitment to the success of our student-athletes."
The contract requires K-State to pay Martin the lesser of $4 million or his remaining base salary if he is dismissed without cause over the lifetime of the contract.

Martin would owe Kansas State $2 million if he leaves his position following this season. This amount thereafter decreases to $1 million through April 15, 2012, $750,000 through May 14, 2013 and $500,000 through May 14, 2014.

The 43-year-old Martin is in his third season at the helm of the K-State program and continues to build on an already sound foundation.

Named today the Big 12 Coach of the Year by both the Associated Press and the league's coaches, Martin has K-State off to its best start since the 1958-59 season, while the current 24 victories and 11 conference wins are the most for the Wildcats in the Big 12 era and most since the 1987-88 squad won a school-record 25 games. The team earned its first Top 5 ranking in nearly 50 years last Monday when it rose to No. 5 in each poll. It marked the fifth straight Top 10 ranking this season, including the fourth in both major polls. He has guided the school to four wins over Top 25 teams, which is the most-ever by K-State in a regular season, including just its third-ever over a No. 1 team and first since 1994 with its 71-62 victory over Texas on Jan. 18.

Martin has posted a 67-30 (.691) record in his third season, which includes a 30-18 (.625) mark in Big 12 play. He now has the most wins by a head coach in his first three seasons, surpassing Lon Kruger, while the win over Colorado on Feb. 13 made him the first K-State head coach to have three 20-win seasons to start a career.

The academic performance of K-State's student-athletes has also dramatically improved under Coach Martin's leadership. The program's four-year men's basketball graduate rate of 75% is the highest in the Big 12, and the team's most recent APR score was the second-highest ever at .959.

holy crap, a $2 million buyout if he leaves after this year? (dropping to a still-huge $1 million after the next 2 seasons are done)

Is that some kind of record? They arent messing around, you gotta pay a ton to get Frank out of Manhattan.

Hey Cat fans, congrats on locking up Martin. That's a big deal. When he beats KU, I will probably cuss it, but it is a good move for KSU.

I was actually pulling for the cats yesterday. It was good for the conference to have 2 top 5 teams. And not one of them was a big money south team. (I'm looking at you UT and T-Boone-U)
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you can't watch that and not believe this is a guy who will be here for a long time.

This. It's something that a lot of "outsiders" don't get, that Manhattan is a great place to live with great people to be around and that all you have to do its give it a chance.

I'm not a big fan of Wefald (as it relates to athletics) or Krause, but Frank is one thing that they nailed. How they went about it may have not been the best, but the important thing is that they got it done, I guess...

Wow.

Very cool.

Frank's an emotional person. After having his name and reputation dragged through the mud I imagine a lot of that emotion may have been a feeling a vindication.

Never say never though. The right offer and he would go.

That was a good video. As I said, good for Frank. He definitely deserves it.

But I must be missing something. Where did his name get dragged through the mud? Was it something at Miami? Being associated with Thuggy Bear, people thinking he couldn't coach?

Honest question. I really don't know what you're referring to.

"High School Coach" - Even though he was a coach an Ass't coach at Northeastern University/Cinci/KSU for 7 years prior to getting the nod in order to keep the (almost) GRCOAT.

"No ethics" - recruited players to his HS teams - BFD. It happens in every HS in the area. Martin was cleared of any wrong doing, but was terminated.

Hatchet job articles by Whitlock and numerous others claiming Frank as some evil doer. It's not hard to find them.

And of course the tards here who blindly follow the sheep, bleating the same talking points and hoping against hope that they were true until this year.

I see. Honestly I haven't paid much attention to it. Thanks.

So he recruited players to his high school team? Like you said, big ****ing deal. Local high schools do that shit.

Posnaski wrote a hatchet piece right after he was hired. He has never apologized - even when proven wrong. What a fkn douche that guy is. Beyond his baseball articles, he's a hack.

Well you are talking about the KC Media, there isnt anyone up there that arent hacks...

Truer words.......

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="4">AP Top 25</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td>RK</td><td>TEAM</td><td align="center">RECORD</td><td align="center">PTS</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2305"><td>1</td><td>Kansas (63) </td><td align="center">29-2</td><td align="center">1,623</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-96"><td>2</td><td>Kentucky (2) </td><td align="center">29-2</td><td align="center">1,553</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-183"><td>3</td><td>Syracuse</td><td align="center">28-3</td><td align="center">1,500</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-150"><td>4</td><td>Duke</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">1,348</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-194"><td>5</td><td>Ohio State</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">1,344</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2509"><td>6</td><td>Purdue</td><td align="center">26-4</td><td align="center">1,252</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-277"><td>7</td><td>West Virginia</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">1,231</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-167"><td>8</td><td>New Mexico</td><td align="center">28-3</td><td align="center">1,188</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2306"><td>9</td><td>Kansas State</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">1,063</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-222"><td>10</td><td>Villanova</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">1,016</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-127"><td>11</td><td>Michigan State</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">1,015</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2086"><td>12</td><td>Butler</td><td align="center">27-4</td><td align="center">796</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-275"><td>13</td><td>Wisconsin</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">710</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-252"><td>14</td><td>Brigham Young</td><td align="center">28-4</td><td align="center">690</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2633"><td>15</td><td>Tennessee</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">650</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-221"><td>16</td><td>Pittsburgh</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">644</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-218"><td>17</td><td>Temple</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">552</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2250"><td>18</td><td>Gonzaga</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">534</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-120"><td>19</td><td>Maryland</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">499</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-238"><td>20</td><td>Vanderbilt</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">480</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-239"><td>21</td><td>Baylor</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">474</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-46"><td>22</td><td>Georgetown</td><td align="center">20-9</td><td align="center">277</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-245"><td>23</td><td>Texas A&M</td><td align="center">22-8</td><td align="center">271</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2752"><td>24</td><td>Xavier</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">136</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2638"><td>25</td><td>UTEP</td><td align="center">24-5</td><td align="center">134</td></tr></tbody></table>

New Mexico? Who the **** are they? I honestly don't know a thing about them.

Steve Alford

<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="4">ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td>RK</td><td>TEAM</td><td align="center">RECORD</td><td align="center">PTS</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2305"><td>1</td><td>Kansas (30) </td><td align="center">29-2</td><td align="center">774</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-96"><td>2</td><td>Kentucky</td><td align="center">29-2</td><td align="center">740</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-183"><td>3</td><td>Syracuse (1) </td><td align="center">28-3</td><td align="center">709</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-150"><td>4</td><td>Duke</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">661</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2509"><td>5</td><td>Purdue</td><td align="center">26-4</td><td align="center">625</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-277"><td>6</td><td>West Virginia</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">610</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-194"><td>7</td><td>Ohio State</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">604</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-167"><td>8</td><td>New Mexico</td><td align="center">28-3</td><td align="center">526</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2306"><td>9</td><td>Kansas State</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">501</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-222"><td>10</td><td>Villanova</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">476</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-127"><td>11</td><td>Michigan State</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">463</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2086"><td>12</td><td>Butler</td><td align="center">27-4</td><td align="center">461</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2633"><td>13</td><td>Tennessee</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">387</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2250"><td>14</td><td>Gonzaga</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">347</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-252"><td>15</td><td>Brigham Young</td><td align="center">28-4</td><td align="center">324</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-221"><td>16</td><td>Pittsburgh</td><td align="center">24-7</td><td align="center">295</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-218"><td>17</td><td>Temple</td><td align="center">26-5</td><td align="center">282</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-275"><td>18</td><td>Wisconsin</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">273</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-120"><td>19</td><td>Maryland</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">210</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-239"><td>20</td><td>Baylor</td><td align="center">24-6</td><td align="center">167</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2638"><td>21</td><td>UTEP</td><td align="center">24-5</td><td align="center">153</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-46"><td>22</td><td>Georgetown</td><td align="center">20-9</td><td align="center">125</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-238"><td>23</td><td>Vanderbilt</td><td align="center">23-7</td><td align="center">117</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-245"><td>24</td><td>Texas A&M</td><td align="center">22-8</td><td align="center">103</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2460"><td>25</td><td>Northern Iowa</td><td align="center">28-4</td><td align="center">54</td></tr></tbody></table>

Bracketology

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

PBJ
PBJ

http://www.myabc5.com/global/story.asp?s=12101938

I spoke to someone this weekend about Bryce. I'd say that 60-40 just moved to 80-20. Barring some sort of last minute change, he'll be Red-shirting @ KSU with Arthur this Fall.
:)

And FWIW, Daniel Sams is going to K-State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/...el-Sams-103873

Oh boy, we beat out Tulsa for him.

Just got a call... I get to go to the morning session games tomorrow with a college friend. Her dad's friend has connections. She said "The tickets say section 117, row 5.... is that good?"

I looked it up. Mid Court. 5th frickin' row. For freeeee!

Wish State were playing.... wait.... no I don't. I wish I could see them Saturday from these seats for free. Hoisting that trophy.

Gawd, that'd be great...

Was being recruited by Alabama and LSU as an athlete but sounds like K-State were the first to send him an offer. Had some off the field issues and was kicked off his team last fall, but has since been reinstated.

Sorry, i'm kind of negative about coach Old Balls "Diamond in the Rough" recruiting at this point.

Great, Brent and Bob.

HUZZAH

Better than the morons who did KU's game today.

Under 16:

KSU 7
OSU 6

15-2 run after that. Not bad, cats

SPrint Cebnter has worse coverage inside it than the Bram. I get a single tiny bar. Great half anf something I didn't excpect.
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Go Wildcats, Go.

I always like WTI's posts from games. I can't ever tell if he's half in the bag or if he has big fingers.

Not that anyone here cares, but lady EMAW'ers won earlier in the day 59-51 vs Tech.

Stater... it's the ****ing palm pre. Keyboard is miniscvule.
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cats kicking the dog snot outa the 'boys

fist pump

In my opinion, losing close to Baylor probably still gets you guys a #2, but possibly #3. Beating Baylor will lock K-State into a #2.

After that, they are probably just playing for region in the big 12 championship game against Kansas or TA&M. Midwest is out of the question, but they would probably rather play in Houston or Utah than NY. Win it and maybe they get Houston or Utah. Lose, and maybe they are #2 in New York. Might not matter anyway, I've seen some people chalk KSU up as #8 on the curve but still let you have Utah or Houston.

If everybody loses early in their conference tourneys tomorrow, Duke, Ohio State, West Virginia, Purdue, EVERYBODY... then maybe KSU sneaks back at least into the discussion for #1, but realistically you guys lock #2 tomorrow and play for region saturday.

I'm pretty sure we're locked for a 2 as is.

This completely random man picks us as the 4th one.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...y?vid=18437539

I don't blame you one bit, but other than Prince's scoring Josh Freeman, Prince has been basically bringing in D-IA or D-II players along with D-II or NAIA coaches.