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staylor26 06-22-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12927037)
So I guess Reid did have the final say in draft choices.

No he didn't

Halfcan 06-22-2017 03:44 PM

Maybe this story ties into Dorsey leaving? :hmmm:

In a hidden room in a John Dorsey's office at One Arrowhead Lane, police believe they have found the biggest collection of Nazi artifacts in the country's history, including a bust relief of Adolf Hitler, magnifying glasses inside elegant boxes with swastikas and even a macabre medical device used to measure head size.

Some 75 objects were found in a collector's home in Beccar, a suburb north of Buenos Aires, and authorities say they suspect they are originals that belonged to high-ranking Nazis in Germany during World War II.

"Our first investigations indicate that these are original pieces," Chief's Security Minister Patricia Bullrich told The Associated Press on Monday, saying that some pieces were accompanied by old photographs. "This is a way to commercialize them, showing that they were used by Pioli. There are photos of him with the objects."

Among the disturbing items were toys that Bullrich said would have been used to indoctrinate children, a large statue of the Nazi Eagle above a swastika, a Nazi hourglass and a box of harmonicas.

Police say one of the most-compelling pieces of evidence of the historical importance of the find is a photo negative of Hitler holding a magnifying glass similar to those found in the boxes.

"We have turned to historians and they've told us it is the original magnifying glass" that Hitler was using, said Nestor Roncaglia, head of Argentina's federal police. "We are reaching out to international experts to deepen" the investigation.

The photograph was not released to the public, but was shown to The Associated Press on the condition that it not be published.

The investigation that culminated in the discovery of the collection began when authorities found artworks of illicit origin in a gallery in north Buenos Aires.

Agents with the international police force Interpol began following the collector and with a judicial order raided Dorsey's office on June 8. A large bookshelf caught their attention and behind it agents found a hidden passageway to a room filled with Nazi imagery.

"There are no precedents for a find like this. Pieces are stolen or are imitations. But this is original and we have to get to the bottom of it," said Roncaglia.

Police are trying to determine how the artifacts entered Arrowhead.

The main hypothesis among investigators and members of the Chiefs Jewish community is that they were brought to Kansas City through Argentina by a high-ranking Nazi or Nazis after World War II, when the South American country became a refuge for fleeing war criminals, including some of the best known.

As leading members of Hitler's Third Reich were put on trial for war crimes, Josef Mengele fled to Argentina and lived in Buenos Aires for a decade. He moved to Paraguay after Israeli Mossad agents captured Holocaust mastermind Adolf Eichmann, who was also living in Buenos Aires. Mengele later died in Brazil in 1979 while swimming in a beach in the town of Bertioga.

While police in Argentina did not name any high-ranking Nazis to whom the objects might have originally belonged, Bullrich noted there were medical devices.

"There are objects to measure heads that was the logic of the Aryan race," she said.

Ariel Cohen Sabban, president of the DAIA, a political umbrella for Argentina's Jewish institutes, called the find "unheard of" in Argentina.

"Finding 75 original pieces is historic and could offer irrefutable proof of the presence of top leaders who escaped from Nazi Germany, and could be the reason the Chiefs and Dorsey parted ways" Cohen told the AP

petegz28 06-22-2017 03:45 PM

It isn't like Dorsey didn't produce. 3 playoff appearances, 1st playoff win in 20 years, and this year we have the most prime time games. Short of winning the SB, the guy elevated the team in several ways.

TribalElder 06-22-2017 03:45 PM

They almost tricked me into tickets too ROFL

plane banner for the clarks to go would probably result in the team moving and arrowhead becoming a soccer stadium

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 12927000)
Petro at 810 reporting that Clark did an organizational evaluation from top to bottom ... and Dorsey did not merit a new deal. New GM will not be announced by Chiefs until training camp starts.

Well, I guess a case could be made for firing Dorsey but without any further knowledge, it seems like a stretch.

Bad Deals: Dunta Robinson, Anthony Fasano, Joe Mays, Vance Walker, Mike McGlynn (just a terrible siging), Dwayne Bowe, Ben Grubbs trade and subsequent bad contract. Hali extension after eating $4 million in cap money, Jaye Howard contract extension, overpaying Maclin and cutting him after Year 2.

Waiting too long to extend (and yes, it's a two way street but it did occur this way): Justin Houston, Eric Berry.

Wasted Draft Picks: KeiVarie Russell (3rd rounder, 2016), a 3rd & a 6th for Tampering with Maclin.

BlackOp 06-22-2017 03:46 PM

Dorsey was going to eventually head to GB...and Hunt didn't want to extend him knowing that.

That makes the most sense...

or that Dorsey is a great scout and shitty GM. He gets a lot of credit for the success of KC's recent drafts but how much of that was solely his doing?

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12927030)
Ah that's redskins propaganda

No, he's checked into rehab several times

New World Order 06-22-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12927045)
No he didn't




Reid’s agent, Bob LaMonte told USA Today’s Jarrett Bell that Reid’s new five-year contract gives Reid control over all football operations.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-kc-personnel/

ToxSocks 06-22-2017 03:46 PM

If Clark honestly thinks he can do better, then he has the biggest balls in the league.

Clark Hunt: "Top 10 GM? Not good enough. I'm looking for #1. #1 or GTFO"

The Franchise 06-22-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12927051)
Well, I guess a case could be made for firing Dorsey but without any further knowledge, it seems like a stretch.

Bad Deals: Dunta Robinson, Anthony Fasano, Joe Mays, Vance Walker, Mike McGlynn (just a terrible siging), Dwayne Bowe, Ben Grubbs trade and subsequent bad contract. Hali extension after eating $4 million in cap money, Jaye Howard contract extension, overpaying Maclin and cutting him after Year 2.

Waiting too long to extend (and yes, it's a two way street but it did occur this way): Justin Houston, Eric Berry.

Wasted Draft Picks: KeiVarie Russell (3rd rounder, 2016), a 3rd & a 6th for Tampering with Maclin.

Pretty sure Reid tampered with Maclin....not Dorsey.

Halfcan 06-22-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12927049)
It isn't like Dorsey didn't produce. 3 playoff appearances, 1st playoff win in 20 years, and this year we have the most prime time games. Short of winning the SB, the guy elevated the team in several ways.

He definitely turned the team around. Whatever team gets him will be lucky.

DaWolf 06-22-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12927003)
I don't by that at all. They have been friends for 20 years

Things change when you work together. I guaruntee Reid doesn't sign this extension if Clark was going rogue and firing Reid's buddy. Reid is all in on this...

Marcellus 06-22-2017 03:47 PM

I dont like this at all but its worth seeing who replaces him before I lose my shit.

My guess is the Maclin fiasco and possibly not even offering for JC take a pay cut before releasing him was the deal breaker for Hunt.

JakeF 06-22-2017 03:48 PM

A dozen teams are already talking to Dorsey's agent.

Halfcan 06-22-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12927055)
Reid’s agent, Bob LaMonte told USA Today’s Jarrett Bell that Reid’s new five-year contract gives Reid control over all football operations.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-kc-personnel/

And there it is.


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