If the board falls the way I think it will, I’d have zero qualms over taking Burden. Me personally, I’d still take Henderson but again no qualms if it’s Luther.

If he trades up with the Vikes, I think it'll be Josh Simmons. If we hold steady, I think it'll be Josh Connerly

I’m not going to name names because I’m not a communist (Seinfeld joke) but I want a DL, WR and RB with the first three picks. Don’t care about the order, but I want day one contributors at all all 3 spots and I think they can pull that off.

Ideally, I’m jumping all over Hampton if he’s there at the bottom of the first. You simply can’t pass on such an electric playmaker, regardless of how little the Chiefs value the position. I truly believe if you manage to land him, it takes this offense to a level it hasn’t been since 2018.

I want Reggie Roaf, the lovechild of Reggie White and Willie Roaf

Oh, I wasn’t responding directly to you. It was a general response. Point being, if by the logic that a player of Simmons’ talent is rarely available to the Chiefs, the same can be applied to Burden.

I mean, shoot, if Burden had done the Jamar Chase (and sat out his jr year) he’d be the first WR off the board with the way he tested.

If he's there and KC selects him...it potentially puts the Chiefs in a good financial position.

If Brown stays healthy, he's going to want to get paid...and Rice has said he wants to reset the market.

I think WR money is incredibly inflated so keeping that position in check is crucial for fielding a balanced team.

I have heard many talk about taking a D-Lineman at 31 or possibly a RB to fill the positions of ‘need’, but if the draft is really as deep as everyone says it is (including Veach about RB’s), wouldn’t it make more sense to take the BPA from the ‘thinner’ positions?

You know you can get a solid impact RB or certain D-Line guys in the 4th round, so maybe the focus should really be on an impact position like WR, S, or OT, where you’re likely NOT getting an impact guy in the 4th round.

If the depth is so great (at certain positions) then take advantage and plan accordingly!

Pickens also had worrying injury history and didn’t put up the production that Luther Burden has

I thought he’d be another UGA receiver, all hype no production (to say nothing of how injury prone I thought he’d be). Turned out I was wrong on Pickens

It's actually the other way around ironically. It's best to choose earlier out of a larger pool than out of a smaller pool for talent quality. Think of it like this, if you choose the 4th best player out of a pool of 25 you're technically getting a better player than 84%of the group. If you select the 4th best out of a pool of 10 then you're getting a better player than 50%.

I want a playmaker WR. Fill in the rest latter

When is Arroyo being projected to be drafted? Would love to find a way to get him.

WR doesnt make much sense. And Andy Reid sure AF is not going to tolerate a guy that doesn't practice hard.

Yeah, the HC who's notorious for having some of the toughest practices in the NFL is going to draft a guy that doesnt like to practice.

Keep dreaming, dudes.

You can never have enough passrushers due to injury and FA(2026)

If you can pull as many functional pieces at said position you don't hesitate with the selections

Damn man I was just thinking the other day that I haven't seen you on here in a minute.

Where have you been dude? Everything good?

I mean, I guess so? Sure, Andy Reid has hard practices, but he I think also believes in his culture fixing dudes, which honestly has a pretty good track record.

It does if you consider Watson is no longer on the team, Rice is facing a potential suspension and Brown/JuJu are on one year deals. There is a chance this is Kelce's last season too...

It takes a good part of a season for a rookie WR to fully grasp the system. 2026 will be Rice's final season on his rookie deal. If someone is there they like, it wouldnt be a shock at all. WR has become a very expensive position..keeping it constantly stocked with cheap contacts is a smart move

DE/WR/CB is the play IMO...maybe a LT. They haven't shown the tendency to draft interior DL early with Jones being the exception.

They hadn’t drafted WRs high…till they did

Hadn’t drafted linebackers high…til they did

They may not take a dt but I’d guess it’s more because no one they like is there

If I were a GM and had two players rated similar, I would take the more expensive position to replace. Other factors come into play too...like how deep a particular position is in a given year and how my current contracts are staggered. If it's deep at DT/DE...what's the talent drop off between #4 and #8.

These guys do this all day, every day...so I'm assuming they not only research the current class but the 2026 class too. Getting an idea on what positions will be deep a year from now.

I think with the team in reasonable striking distance of a Super Bowl every year now, and also probably from being on the older side, Andy gives less and less a shit about changing young player attitudes or reforming them to be team first guys.

You can get good WR’s with lower assets (hello Worthy and Rice). You cannot get a LT. It never happens.

You aren’t getting a good LT in FA. Teams will not let those guys hit the market. And you won’t get them later in the draft either.

Jaylon Moore is simply the next Kingsley Suamatia, Wanya Morris or Donovan Smith. He’s a lottery ticket that even the Chiefs don’t have much faith in per his contract, and for good reason. He’s not even a good lottery ticket. He’s a below average one. He played in a protected run first scheme that helped him. That’s not what we do here. His ass is gonna have it rough. He’ll be on an island way more and I’m not confident he can hold up..


As for the draft, this class isn’t great. There are no Joe Alt’s. But guess what? That doesn’t matter bc we’d never have a shot at one anyway. There are a couple of guys who could be “average” starters which makes the class considered “weak”. You guys realize an average LT changes everything right? We haven’t had an average LT since Eric Fisher and we saw what happened.

Josh Simmons is 100% on this teams draft board based upon traits, size, film and versatility. He is a top 10 pick if he doesn’t get injured. Whether he stays on our board will be due to Rick Burkholder, and I’d bet that decision was made last week after his private visit. Josh Conerly is also a fit for us IMO. He’s got similar traits to Eric Fisher but needs to get stronger. I think he could grow into an average LT.

Fellas, this season hinges on Jaylon Moore like it or not. This could easily go the same way resulting in horizontal passes, low A-dot passes and boring offense bc Mahomes is getting hit 8-12 times a game and we have zero trust in the LT.

The Chiefs most likely feel like this is the best draft to get a LT bc of the perception of the tackles and depth of the class at DL and RB. They’re likely gonna go after a LT and I cannot blame them one bit after the last few years.

I am hoping that there are a few players there that Veach and Co. like all about the same, along with a QB, Sanders or Milroe, and then Browns or Giants want to come up and get them. That way, we could still get a player that they liked and get some other picks in the middle part of the draft.

Man, if the Chiefs thought Moore could reasonably resemble the dogshit they had last year, they would have stood pat at the position rather than piss away $30 million over two years.

I’m not predicting all pro for Moore, but Christ at least have a little faith

I’ve said it before but I really think the Chiefs will find themselves in a bit of no man’s land if they stay at 31 (I’m totally fine with staying there BTW).

I think Nolen, Grant, Harmon, Simmons, and Conerly are all gone…Banks probably too. Will Johnson and Barron? I assume gone.

Now I know people will say that pushes other players down…true but at what positions?

I feel like so many people are just solely focused on the trenches and I don’t believe the pick goes there…it’s WR, RB, or Edge…maybe a CB.

Getting a good LT outside the first round happens more often than players making complete recoveries from torn patellar tendons. As in … it has happened before.

You want to talk about lottery tickets while advocating vociferously for Josh Simmons. Do you not see the irony there?

I don’t think Moore is going to be an All-Pro, but if they didn’t think he could be an average player or improvement over what they had, they wouldn’t have signed him the second FA opened.

Yeah, he’ll have to adjust to what KC asks him to do and isn’t a perfect fit for that.

I’m all for investing at LT in the draft on a guy they like. Even in the 1st round. Just not on Josh Simmons.

Yeah, Rice is a very good player but he isn't exactly smart off the field.

Worthy is also a good player but after that there is very little.

Kelce is on his farewell tour and we don't have a star TE or another WR developing.


Sky Moore is a bust.


It has been YEARS since we had a top 5 offense and we still don't have a for sure LT or enough weapons to overwhelm anyone.

We also have no advantage in offensive coaching anymore, our scheme is stale and not efficient.

I feel it will be a DT though not sure who will still be there. Going to say Kenneth Grant.

There is so much to unpack here I don't know where to start

Point is we haven't been good on offense in years so the idea we don't need help on offense is wrong.

Would have really loved to have seen what this offense looked like with a full season of Rice, Worthy, Hollywood. Does the LT hole still derail it? Does the lack of a running game still derail it? Kelce’s inevitable decline?

We saw the offense with Rice and Worthy and Kelce ( no Hollywood) for about 4 games and it was mediocre.


I do think if an Elite offensive weapon is there around the 20's we should consider moving up for it.

You literally described why the scheme isn’t working before your last sentence.

Kelce, Hopkins, Juju and Kareem are old, slow and washed. We also had the worst LT situation in the league.

The scheme provided results with Worthy and Rice. Amazing what happens when you have young explosive players instead of old, washed players who were good 3 years ago.

Counting the games Rice and Worthy played in the Chiefs averaged 23 points per game and were ranked 14th in the NFL on offense in Points Per Play.

Mediocre results even with Travis Kelce a year younger than he will be this year.

One positive I believe we'll see this year, is Kelce will look much better this season than last

Not only has he pledged to be in excellent shape, but he also admitted that all of the jet setting around with Taylor took its toll on him... he's gonna have a very solid final run IMO

Good luck running your offense when this happens at LT all year long.

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And we still have not acquired a sure fire LT.

Jaylon Moore looks like a good idea but who knows.

Think I am going with Derrick Harmon

Yeah, we should probably go ahead and get a LT, huh. What is Veach thinking?

Darius Alexander/DL/Toledo… 6’4” 310.

Think Velanch is going DL to replenish older guys leaving. LT will be another game if pickup sticks

This team should draft a WR and defensive back every single draft. You can never have enough and, if you do, the positions are excellent trade bait.

Crown they ass

Throw an EDGE guy in with that group as well. Pass rushers are almost as important as left tackles, and taking a flyer on some freakish EDGE player from a small school in the later rounds is a small risk to land a potential great player at an important position.

Conerly if he's there, but don't really expect them to trade up for him. If there is someone that is unexpectedly falling for some unknown reason, they may try to move up for that person. :shrug:

If this is true he’s long gone before we even get a chance. Miami is very likely as JJ mocked here

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Simmons isn't going to reach us if his knee holds up.

If his knee is miraculously healed I can't see him falling past the Bears honestly

If Simmons goes super high because his PCL is in working order, that likely means Conerly is going to be gone way before our pick as well.

Breer just put an article out and one of the things mentioned is Simmons won’t be cleared for football activities until August at the earliest…

WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH SIMMONS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING



(this is why I want Egbuka/Burden, lol)

Fall into our laps you beautiful sonofabitch!!!

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A draft guy that I know that actually grinds tape on these guys which I can't imagine how much time that takes but he ranked Conerly the #8 tackle in the draft. Here's his writeup



The more I read the less I like

That would be hot. So hot right now. Like Hansel.

It is scary drafting a tackle because we have not had one hit yet in the Veach era.


I know we haven't had a 1st rounder but we did spend 3 decently positioned assets so far on Niang, Morris, and Kinglsey.


Maybe the good news is we are due just like we had a run with no WR hits for a while...

Are we talking about Worthy's first two games in the NFL?

Doesn't happen with every rookie but I think most reasonable fans would agree that Worthy got better as the year went on. Sep 2025 Worthy will not be the same as Sep 2024 Worthy.

And assuming he doesn't break between now and then you can add Brown to the mix, as well.

There are a lot of reasons for optimism about our 2025 WR group.

Did Worthy get better?

I mean most rookies do but I didn't notice some huge difference.


More volume but he scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game. He wasn't a project player.

Dude... Morris has a place somewhere on the line, probably either RT or G and are you really writing off Suamataia already? Suamataia has barely played. Let's maybe give him time to develop before we throw him on the scrap heap.

Holy **** imagine watching the entirety of last season and not seeing that Worthy got significantly better.

Just a year ago reeruns like him were screaming that Veach couldn't draft WRs. Now there's a new narrative.

The fact that 2/3 of the OTs were barely even in the top 100 might have something to do with it.

I haven't written Kingsley off at all.


But he was a project player that hasn't shown he is worthy of the pick yet.

What does this guy think of Ersery?

Great. Optimal outcome.

Whatever team drafts him is going to find out, I believe firmly, that despite the scans looking "good" or whatever, that he is damaged goods like every other guy who ever has had this injury.

I was playing sequence with Veach and his wife the other night and that guy couldn't stop talking about Emeka Egbuka, so I think its going to be him.

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Re: Simmons, it would be like drafting a baseball pitcher who already had thoracic outlet surgery on his throwing shoulder, in the first round.

Your medical team might be certain he’s healed and will be the same, but every bit of historical data you have would tell you he will never be the same again, even “healthy,” because his new “healthy” is less than it was before the injury.

He's the one. He is literally the one. He wanted an "Alpha" WR its probably why he still shits on Worthy.

All on this train. Hammer pass rushers and weapons, even if you get a tackle.

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Unfortunately for us, any quality ready to start LT is going in the top 20.

Alison is lovely, isn't she?

The Chargers winning the division made me not listen to anything else Colin had to say

After trading back to early 2nd round the Chiefs select....



Tight End Colston Loveland, University of Michigan

You are obviously severely reeruned if you think pointing out Worthy was not a project and scored 2 TD's in his first NFL game is "shitting on Worthy".


LMAO

This draft is deep at DL and RB. OL has been reshuffled already.

Veach always prioritizes weapons for Pat. Really hard to dismiss Luther Burden III at 31.

I know the Homer is sticking out here but he's a top 5 pick if the offense didn't morph into tattered ass in 2024. They will know how to use him.

Would be amazing, especially in the second round.....but there is no way he makes it past the Broncos at 20, much less the Chargers a couple of picks later.

I have steadfastly been for Burden or Egbuka, if either are even there at 31.

- Rice
- Worthy
- Hollywood
- Burden/Egbuka

Sign me the hell up.

As someone who is not a Mizzou fan and who lives outside SEC country, I must say that the obsession with Burden does strike me as homerism. I seriously doubt the Chiefs would take him.

Agreed!

I really want the Dolphins to take Josh Simmons with their first pick. Just to get him off the table and he his no longer a CHIEFS consideration.

Watch the 23 tape/highlights.

He’s a 4.4 guy with great hands, who snatches the ball outside his frame, has insane contact balance and power through contact, creating huge YAC, who can win across the middle, short, on gadgets, and who is strong/athletic/tracks the ball well downfield.

He was pretty universally viewed as a top 15 pick entering the year. Then his QB regressed and got hurt and missed him on a lot of shots that he didn’t miss last year, and the backup QB was absolutely atrocious.

I think if you’re familiar with both the Chiefs and Mizzou, you see the fit and matchup. He’s the type of receiver many have been clamoring for, who can do all the stuff Andy Reid wants but who also is physical and has the ability to win as an X.

Nic Scrotum

Reid LOVES elite YAC players. Im sure the Mizzou fans can educate everyone on Burden's YAC and tackle breaking ability for a receiver.

I mean, he was a YAC monster playing in the SEC. It dropped a bit this year because, again, his QB play was legit awful. It’s hard to pick up as much YaC when you’re having to contort to bring in off-target throws.

The Chiefs could draft him and have a pretty perfect WR for this system. I’ve heard a bit that they don’t like him/don’t want him (Burden’s QB is repped by the same agency as Mahomes…) but say you draft Burden AND it works. All of a sudden you don’t HAVE to keep Rashee Rice if you don’t want to. Or you can give Mahomes a legit 3-headed monster trio at WR, with a crazy deep speed guy and two crazy YAC guys who both can win on the intermediate level, and one of those guys being a dude who can win 1x1 downfield and tracks the ball extremely well.

I’m talking myself into it. lol.

Duncan,

Who would you rather have if both were available? Just curious, Missouri WR Luther Burden III or Ohio State WR Emeka Egbuka?

What is Treyveon Henderson's biggest weakness? He is a bit undersized and likely will never be a guy you can give 20+ touches a game on a consistent basis.

What is a knock on Andy Reid? He favors the pass to a fault and doesnt have the patience to give a back 20+ carries consistently.

I was sold on Omarion Hampton last week. As I hear more I think Henderson is a perfect match. The explosiveness of Xavier Worthy last year paired with the explosivness of Henderson this year? Im all for it!