Not sure if we’d get anything more than a 3rd, but if we traded Trey, I’d go after Tate Rutledge. That guy is gonna be a good RG for a long ass time.

I think the plan was to let him walk. But any long term deal probably would have increased the cap. I mean he only made 3 million or so last year. Guessing any deal he would want a huge signing bonus and doubt the chiefs would want to go more that 4 years.

But i think after the Super Bowl, they decided on a bigger more physical line. He has probably more years of productivity than Thuney... Get a draft, still pretty much the same % of the cap towards the OLine...

Has anyone seen this piece of shit at best buy yet?

I will just be glad for the draft to get here....

More smoke today for the Chiefs trading up. From ESPN today:

I've heard that the Kansas City Chiefs are actively looking to trade up in Round 1. They signed left tackle Jaylon Moore in free agency but were otherwise quiet, opting to re-sign their own versus hitting the open market. A move up in Round 1 would likely be for a long-term offensive tackle solution; I heard the goal would be to move in front of the Houston Texans (No. 25) and Los Angeles Rams (No. 26) if the Chiefs like a specific left tackle still on the board.

Im circling the Liberty Best Buy as we speak

Could the Giants at 34 want to trade up ahead of Cleveland at 33 to draft Milroe?

He didn’t even have a good year! Complete waste.

Agree guards are easy to find in round two-four smith is way overrated

it's not a complete waste.

It's just incredibly risk averse. It suggests that they don't believe they can get 80% the production for a fraction of the cost.

I guess I have more faith in them than they do.

I really don't understand it. And I will REALLY not understand it if they go with an OT in the first round.

Uh...fellas....just how many spots do you think you have available on that OL at that point? Especially when Jaylon Moore was a tire fire at RT in SF and Joshua Simmons injury to his POWER LEG means he can't play RT or something like that...

We kept CJ Hanson on the roster all year -- there had to be SOME reason for that? Nourzad is around. OGs exist on the 2nd day of the draft every single season and often the 3rd day.

It just seems like a really poor use of resources. One of those situations where we figured out how to clear the cap so we might as well spend it. And I just think that's a poor decision.

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The dream is dead :(

yeah, I've turned more towards Harmon because I cannot talk myself into this idea that a guy as dominant as Nolen can be is going to fall to the back of the 1st.

(Underdog should spell his name right, though).

Yea, hoping for Harmon, and to a lesser degree, Kenneth Grant.

Hypothetically, I’d rather trade Trey for Hendrickson. Don’t they both make in the 25 million dollar range? Paying 25 million to the guy who’s regressed the last 2 seasons, seems like a very poor decision. Hendrickson would make more of an impact on this team than Smith does.

Obviously the Been’gals would never trade with us, but would love a trade like this!

Derrick Harmon had a private visit with the Steelers and they have a big need for a DL like him. He also fits them really well. I don’t buy the QB stuff with them.

Hope it doesn’t happen but I’m expecting them to take him if he’s available

We're all hyper focused on the Chiefs taking a left tackle or defensive linemen, with some of us holding on to the pipe dream of another stud first round receiver (ahem), but what are the realistic chances that they're eyeballing a corner or possibly a safety as a move up potential? Any names worth moving up for?

Im starting to think Simmons, Nolen and Harmon
are not gonna be available when we pick

After signing Mike Edwards, it appears very unlikely that they would take a S early.

There's a shot they take a CB early, but my guess is no earlier than pick 95.

I think it's VERY likely going to be DL or OL, with a small chance it's a RB/CB/WR. Maybe a LB if Jihaad Campbell somehow fell.

My guess is they were going to let Smith walk and keep Thuney until they saw Suamatia play left guard and decided to trade Thuney and keep smith.

Every year you get absolutely hooked on a stupid trade idea and you never let it go. MVS, Smith, etc. Just let it go man. Madden has rotted your brain.

Kingsley prob played LG because he needed an in game experience
somewhere , maybe to see if he could get up to game speed....Im not penciling him in yet

Edwards completely slipped my brain. I went through a phase where I felt Nick Emmanwori would be the prototypical safety for a Spags defense, but I can't see us moving up for him.

Sticking with my "want a receiver, expect a d-lineman" thought.

You don't change draft plans because of a depth JAG like Mike Edwards.

I could see them taking Starks.

I don't see a 1st round CB.

Burden wouldn't shock me at all. I feel like they will REALLY like what he can bring to the table.

I agree that it shouldn't.

But Veach didn't even mention S as a possibility in the 1st, and he did mention CB. I don't think it's a coincidence that the positions he didn't mention were QB, IOL, S, LB, and RB.

They just don't seem to value the position too highly, and they have what is arguably a full room. I can see them adding one, but I don't think it will be in the 1st. I think CB is more likely.

I also don't think Starks is going to make it to 31 anyways, but like I said with Campbell, sure that would at least be a possibility if he fell. Still don't think they're taking either position and both guys are gone.

Offtopic: Shedeur Sanders likes his own smile just like Papa Sanders did.

Bart Varch couldn't be more different than all of his predecessors. He plays one hell of a game of poker. Not a sole knows his hand, but he plays itbetter than anybody has at One Arrowhead Drive. He's always a canidate to move up, and I'm sure they've played a hundred scanarios of how they're going to handle multiple situations. I guarantee he's already called half a dozen (or more) GM's around the league of compensation if we want to move up or down. Every year we think we have it figured out, and he throws a curveball (Mahomes over Watson). He hits far more frequently than misses and as a result, keeps us as a legit top contender year after year

Just a few years ago, we traded for Orlando brown Jr. He didn’t sign a long term deal immediately after the trade. I could see us trading Trey smith and the team signing him long term later. We need more draft capital and I don’t want to pay a guard like Trey smith big money.

Who is going to be their QB though?

Andy pretty much said so at his last presser how good he looked at guard.

From the call your shot thread

I think a team may take someone on the last year of a rookie deal, like he was. At least you are getting 1 year of a bargain. Tag him the next the next year still a bargain over 2 year span. Smith you are paying top dollar the very first year, and be hard pressed to to tag him for year 2 and RG is not a premium position like LT. Think he would be a tough trade and even a tougher trade if you do not think you can lock him up for 4 years.

honestly the Dolphins should sign him but make it clear he's backup to Tua until the inevitable happens

We don't NEED to do anything but land 4 good football players.

Veach is gonna trade out. Nobody is going to trade up.

Can't wait to see it on Thursday, thank god it's finally here. In Veach We Trust!

I’d be okay with that. Dream scenario in that case would be Sanders falling to the end of the first round and someone overpaying to come back into the first round and giving us an extra 2nd or 3rd.

Also okay with an OT — the value proposition is so high and with Taylor being in his last year I can see the need even if new guy works out at LT.

Really anyone who is a solid player is A-OK by me. They’ll take a DE, DT, CB, S, TE, OL, and maybe a RB.

For the Chiefs to trade out, someone is going to have to trade up.

I very much doubt the Chiefs trade out of the 1st round.

If we did take a corner, I hope we would take the next Darrelle Revis

Possible, I think there are a number of teams that may be willing. I just do not think Veech likes to move back, especially with his first pick. I think he rather get the best pllayer available and take his chances. It is always a gamble that you lose that player.

Having that fifth year option might be too enticing for a team if they really have their heart set on a certain guy that slips to the end of the round, so anything is possible. Veach himself said he'd rather be aggressive than trade back, but if the price is right? I don't anticipate him trading back, but I guess we'll see.

Schefter said today that the Saints are really interested in Jaxon Dart and are very interested in moving up at the end of rd 1.

Ravens did this to get Lamar in 2018. Sent a 5th and a future 2nd for the Eagles to move down from 32 to 52. Saints are at 40 so it would probably be a 5th and a future 2nd.

If the board is bare and we are stuck like 2023 I’d take that deal

Yeah feels like we're either moving up or moving down.

Who knows.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there.

The caveat being that Starks could easily be one of the handful of '1st round grades' they have in this draft. And if they only have 13 guys with that grade and one of 'em makes it to 31, position isn't gonna matter much to them.

It's like DT in that regard -- I don't think they put a lot of value on the position (for now) but I also think that if Nolan or Harmon get to them, they'd take 'em because the value of the player overrides their relative indifference to the position.

And just like adding Pennell won't make a difference in that line of thinking, I don't think adding Edwards will either.

It's just a pure talent pick from their perspective rather than one based on position. Especially when they use their safeties as swiss army knives -- if they'd be interested in a CB with that pick, they'd be interested in Starks as well if he were there. Because of what he would free them up to do with the rest of the DBs on the roster.

Historically Spags has never been as high on DT as he is on Corner and DE. Has never drafted one in the first rd as a HC or on a team as a DC.

That’s another reason why I think that Rd 1 is leaning offense. Rd 2 has a lot of excellent DT’s, some I would argue are as good as Kenneth Grant.

It feels like they are gonna go after a tackle in rd 1, be it Simmons or Conerly. And goddamn if I’m Veach and those guys are gone, I’m probably taking Burden bc of this below average WR class after rd 1.

I don’t love the idea of giving up the rookie 5th round option, but given the talent at 31 and 40 is roughly equal this year, I think a trade like that would be worth it.

Here are the possible scenarios for the 1st round:

Move up
Move down
Draft a DT, DE, OT, RB, TE, or CB
Make a procedural blunder and lose the pick

Basically anything is possible except we're probably not drafting a QB, LB, S, or OG.

It definitely feels like we are moving up or down or staying put and drafting someone.


This is why I come here, to illuminate things for me

Brian Daboll is also supposedly in love with Dart. Another potential trade down partner for the Chiefs...

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I'd be happy with the next McDuffie.

Interesting. If true, he won't be a 1st round pick. It's really that simple.

I’d be shocked if Veatch trades up for an OT from this class.

It’s going to be a DT that he’s got his eyes on.