4/60 would be way too rich IMO but I've come to accept these things over the years.

For Bolton? That's not a bad contract at all if they structure it right.

If Bolton and his agent are being honest about his value he'll look at Patrick Queens contract and look to marginally top that. So somewhere around an AAV of 14.

That's what it will be unless some stupid team like the Raiders wants to try to screw us over and give out a Christian Kirk-esque deal.

With inflation it would be around $15 million for that deal this year. But that’s the line for me with Bolton. If he wants more than $15 million APY I think you tell him good luck and let him go.

I think they are going to keep him though bc Trey is way overpriced and running Spags defense requires football IQ that Bolton and Reid provided on the back end.

I don’t think Spags wants to lose both guys. I think he’s been hammering to Veach that they must keep Bolton

I meant active roster - guys that can actually play.

If we're counting on PS guys we're proper ****ed.

Put some respect on Skyy Moore's na- pffffft

Building on this, like what if Luther Burden is BPA at 31

You're gonna give a little somewhere on the roster but if defenses have to deal with Rice, Worthy, Burden for the foreseeable future...

If Luther burden is at 31 you draft him no questions asked

Yeah burden is the dude if he’s there. He’s a freak athlete reminds me a lot of Jamar chase in his physicality and speed plus he can do gadget stuff. Sign me up.

This is why you wanna try to have a floor option that you can stomach in place anywhere you have a hole going into the draft.

Then just stack good football players.

I agree. I like Kingsley at RG. I actually wish we could get rid of Taylor somehow and put Morris in there. Morris is better at RT than LT and he’s way cheaper than Taylor. Kingsley and Morris played pretty well against Denver and they have a solid dline. Any chance we could trade Taylor for a 7th round pick swap just to get his salary off the books?

I would like to see our oline with this line up next year.

LT: vet LT plus Simmons drafted around 20
LG: Thuney
C: Creed
RG: Kingsley
RT: Morris

Bad idea?

The Chiefs can not move on from Taylor he's here another year so yea bad plan.

Yeah. I'd probably tap out at 12 AAV and I don't really love seeing over 10 AAV but that's me.

His guaranteed salary would transfer to the new team if they traded him. So, really, yeah it's not the worst idea. We'd eat about 14.8m and gain 12.6m in cap space by trading him. Of course, the Chiefs would have to want to get rid of him and someone would have to want him.

There's gotta be a stupid team out there willing to give up a 3rd for him right? New York Jets? What's his Madden rank?

If it means the light show returns to KC and Mahomes starts smiling out there and having fun and winning MVPs I am all for it. Weve won with elite offenses and elite defenses. Winning is great, all else being equal, give me an elite offense and a happy franchise quarterback. I can deal with a 20ish ranked defense.

Posted a free agency mock in the draft forum: https://work.chiefsplanet.com/BB/sho...d.php?t=357249

Go roast at your convenience

I like the idea of replacing Taylor, but putting two unproven guys on one side is way too risky for my taste. I tink we are stuck for one more year at RT.

This. I like Trey, a lot, but he really struggled at times this season. Drafting him in the 6th round and having 4 years of solid to good play from him was incredible value! You ink him to the highest contract for a guard ever (which is what it’s gonna take) and that ‘value’ goes out the window. He’s not worth paying $22 million a year to.

As far as Thuney, I have no doubt the Chiefs are going to try and extend him. He’s still at the top of his game (as a guard), is a MUCH better fit at guard for the Chiefs offense than Trey, and it’ll help lower cap hits for the next 2 years for the O-Line giving the Chiefs some room to maneuver.

I imagine an extension with Thuney would be something in the neighborhood of 3 years, $60 million with at least $35 mil. gtd., which is not bad for a player of his caliber. The guard market is gonna go up significantly after Trey re-sets it.

It makes no sense to re-sign Smith. Replaceable position and the market is too high. I'm surprised any team would pay over $20 million for a guard but that's the price.

The first questions to be answered after Kelce are whether they keep Reid/Bolton. Or both possibly.

We need to steal Ty Johnson from the Bills. They will be busy with James Cook so he’s ripe for the picking.

Only 27. This is our new McKinnon. So much juice. One of the better receiving backs. Would be a great fit here and a badly needed playmaker.

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Been ignoring chiefs stuff for a while tbh. Needed a break from the season and just to get over the disappointment of the SB. Feeling more back to normal now and ready to start the process of another run. Things i feel we desperately need

1. Sure of up the line is of course crucial.

2. I want to see three RB's brought in. Going into next season without a vastly improved Rungame would be utterly criminal. Enough is enough. Give Pat a good fecking rungame now fgs and help him.

3. Another CB. Losing Watson exposed the secondary too much. And tbh I'm not sure Trent is that good on the outside.

4. Athletic LB. We missed Gay's speed and movement in the middle of the field imo.

5. A new DT to help Chris.

6. A fresh TE to further prepare for Travis's exit.

7. A bigger WR to compliment Rice and Worthy.

8. A fast safety that can play single high as most of our safeties prefer to play closer to the box imo.

Veach has some work to do but I'm exited to feel that hunger again. We haven't been a hunter for three years so let's fecking go yall.

Not having anything to watch while doing school work.......sucks


Need to find old shows or something I can watch without another pay service.

Have to fix this. We have to focus on getting young talented playmakers on offense.

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This is just a left tackle chart.

You can't be explosive on offense if you don't have time to throw.

That’s a part of it, sure.

But the Chiefs had the same LT for 2021 & 2022.

Teams simply adjusted to how they played the Chiefs on defense.

But to your point, get the LT situation solidified and add another explosive playmaker on offense and they can get back to being that explosive offense from before.

2021 was Patrick working out his issues with the way defenses played the Chiefs.

2022 he figured out how to destroy teams who stayed in Cover 2.

Also Brown wasn't very good at the start of 2021 if I recall.

2nd in ‘22? I don’t remember a ton of big plays that year.

There were plenty from Kelce and MVS had one of his better years.

I’ve noticed that people misremember that year a lot.

We led the league in scoring and yardage that year. Evidently we were #2 in explosive plays and also 2nd in 3rd down conversion percentage.

Our defense apparently allowed the most passing TDs and we were bottom third in redzone percentage.

Our offense was insane that year.

yeah this is a big problem. being a defense first team is fine but the offense’s inability to make big plays is just inexcusable. every drive has to be a 8-10 play drive minimum.

getting an explosive back would help

One of the things that will help the offense is letting Mahomes go back to being the human highlight reel vs being Mr. Dink-Dunk.

I don’t want the Chiefs to go buck wild in FA. An honestly…outside of Joe Thuney, when has that worked?

People hated Frank Clark and Jawaan Taylor.

Get a flurry of value guys like we got with Juju, Tranquill, Reid, Donovan Smith, Jerrick McKinnon. Make sure you get that 3rd rd comp pick for Trey Smith

You think this was a conscious decision? You really think they just don't want to be explosive?

This shit is hard. Winning Superbowls is hard. And the longer you pick in the 30's, the harder it gets.

Two ov'em! And one ov'em be a punisher. These linebackers are shrinkin', averagin' around 230-240lbs when they used to avg 250+. Hell, that Baun mf'er is 225lbs. They wanna cover and "operate in space" due to spread offense and RPOs? Fine!! Sick some corn-fed OL on'em and let those two backs stick a shoulder in the leftovers! Now everybody's in the box, allowin' Mahomes to feast on that secondary.

if clark was a ufa signing he probably wouldve been way less shit on, we traded a lot for him lol

This could be already fixed by getting Rice back, and Worthy being familiar with the offennse.

Bring
Bring Brown back and maybe a third down RB and it is not the playmakers that are the concern.

Chiefs lookin at this kid....

Veach, if you can hear me..Ty Johnson.

Please

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Bills fans want him back. This is why.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/4i8RJonCA9

Cats out of the bag on Ty Johnson. He will cost, I think.

I'm not paying for a RB.

Draft 'em, run 'em into the ground, replace 'em.

Unless you get one that's REALLY special, transcends the position...nope.

I don't see much in that market.

Ty Johnson and Rico Dowdle are the only guys that intrigue me. I wish Warren wasn't a RFA.

Kenneth Gainwell would be really good here IMO

Time for that was last off season. Grab a high end in Day 2 and a project late and let's get er goin.

Warren would be the guy to get. I think PIT is going to tag him with just ROFR original round tender (He was a UDFA so no draft cmp). He might be worth trying to sign out from them anyhow, but they can match.


I'm somewhat interested in some fliers on Elijah Mitchell and Travis Homer. I know Homer hasn't been much but his speed in this offense, ability as a receiving back, and his pass blocking could be a fun low-cost chance.

If you’re looking to add speed and explosion back into the backfield, Warren isn’t the guy for that. He’s closer to Hunt and Perine than anything.

Could work out well if Pacheco returns to form but many here seem to have given up on him in a starting role.

Pacheco has never been an every down back.

Neither are guys like Ty Johnson and Rico Dowdle.

Jaylen Warren could probably fill the role, but like I said, he’s basically Perine at this point.

They’re not trusting rookies on 3rd down, especially early.

Watch Perine. You need to be able to block or you’re a 2 down back here. Even Pacheco didn’t get that opportunity for a while as a rookie and he’s a big RB compared to the rookies we are talking about.

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Right. Which is why they should probably skip out on the veteran RB market unless it's another 1 year deal near vet minimum.

Hell, just bring Perine back and give him a full camp here instead of coming in after the 53 man cut down.

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And there's another nice pick-up at the 3:54 mark

I’ve said it elsewhere but I think we roll with Pacheco as the starter again next year.

Re-sign one of either Kareem and Samaje to a short 1 or 2 year deal if they’ll take it for cheap.

Draft a RB this year, preferably somewhere in rounds 3-5.

A lot of people are going to be disappointed if they don’t like Pop. I just don’t think we’re in a position to upgrade that position with this FA market and needing to allocate higher draft capital to areas on the OL and DL.

**** it just draft Golden and re-sign Humphries with a full camp.

Worthy, Rice, Golden, enraged and motivated but old Kelce would be next to impossible to stop with just average tackle play.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One natural landing spot for soon-to-be former Seahawks WR Tyler Lockett is the Las Vegas Raiders, whose head coach Pete Carroll knows his former wide receiver well. Lockett’s character always has matched his talents, and Carroll always has been a big supporter. Raiders also need… <a href="https://t.co/QUSU6qwtt9">pic.twitter.com/QUSU6qwtt9</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1897342506578112726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Absolutely would bring in Christian Kirk on a 1 year deal. No question.

Would be a really good move

How the hell is Tyler Lockett 32??

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Would you chase Kirk, or resign Hollywood?

I think we are downplaying how good Rashee Rice was this year before he got hurt.

He looked like THE GUY.

He was on pace for 1,632 yards and 12 TDs.

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I think Perine could fill the 3rd down back role well.....not sure that Kareem has another year in him like last year. I think we used him a lot in Pop's absence and it wore him down at the end of the season.

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And based on his injury he may never be the same. Because of how slow KC played this people thought it wasn't that bad. Then the surgery happened and he tore shit up.

The ACL is fairly standard now to repair and rehab but Rice had some serious damage done.

He will be absolutely fine.

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I’ve always felt like Lockett would be a great fit for us, he’s what we hoped Sky Moore would become IMO

My strongest preference, if possible, would be to run it back with Hollywood and Hopkins.

But if we somehow make cap space for someone like DK Metcalf, well, that’d be exciting but I just don’t see it happening.

Doubt Nuk wants to play for what Veachy would pay.

Seriously? Hopkins is too old. He looked washed last year. The Super Bowl drop and lack of snaps is evidence of that. They should move on from him.

Hollywood, I agree on trying to keep if the price is good.

Lockett is also old but he put up decent enough stats last year where a cheap one year deal could make sense. And he fits this offense better than Hopkins.

It has been harder than expected to "take a break."

They were able to trade him… for minimal compensation in return.

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Raekwon Davis was released. Only 27 and could be a nice run stopper next to Chris jones

Pacheco never looked as explosive when he came back and the other issue is KC had adjusted the run blocking for Kareem Hunt. They never switched back. So Pacheco was never going to look himself.


Pacheco needs a zone blocking setup where he just hits the hole hard.

I believe Reid primarily relies on power blocking schemes, no?

I remember we ran a fair amount of zone blocking schemes back in the early 2010s with Jamaal and I was a bit worried switching to PBS would affect his production once Reid came to town (it didn’t).

He had surgery on his LCL. I haven't seen any report stating he tore his ACL.

Maybe I missed it, but this post seems awfully doom and gloom for a pretty minor injury as far as knee injuries go.

Rashee Rice did not tear his ACL. He tore the LCL and all reports are that it's a tough surgery but not a catastrophic injury. His chances of coming back 100% are good and much, much better than if he had torn his ACL.

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He didn't have an ACL. He had an LCL and the prognosis is excellent for 100% recovery.