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Stryker 03-01-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 17982647)
The Chiefs REALLY don't need to use another 1st round pick for a WR, but if Burden (or Egbuka) fall to 31, you have to give it some strong consideration. Could change the dynamic of the offense (force teams into 2 high against KC a lot more) and allow the WR's to eat in the middle of the field and the running game (assuming we get a RB) to explode.

His highlights...

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Boxer_Chief 03-02-2025 09:01 AM

I’m admittedly a huge mizzou homer but my god I want him at 31. He’s Jamar Chase I’m telling you. He’s so strong and physical and has speed and contested catch ability. I’d be ecstatic.

Couch-Potato 03-02-2025 10:04 AM

I wouldn’t mind Burden at #31, not one bit.

bigjosh 03-02-2025 10:25 AM

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we went rb, wr, te with the first three picks. (No specific order)

There is bound to be a player of value at those positions in each of our picks.

Burden, Judkins and Fannin is my home run scenario


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RunKC 03-02-2025 10:48 AM

Unless Judkins or Henderson somehow fall to us, I think Sampson, Tuten, Harvey and Blue are the guys.

Would be happy with any of those 4.

Couch-Potato 03-02-2025 11:31 AM

I think Tuten should be our top RB target.

Dunerdr 03-02-2025 11:52 AM

Disappointed in Ollie tbh.

RunKC 03-02-2025 01:35 PM

Calling my shot today: Jaydon Blue

This is the guy. 2nd most athletic RB to Tuten but to me he has a much better feel for the passing game. Andy is close to Sark so like Worthy, he’ll know everything about him. But you can’t deny the kid looks natural catching passes and his speed is legit. Showed it vs the best teams in CFB and Sark’s offense has a lot of similarities to Andy’s.

Only thing I don’t like about him is hand size but it didn’t appear to hurt him as a receiver.

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I mean c’mon guys. This just looks like an Andy Reid RB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas RB Jaydon Blue would be a great fit as a passing down back in Ben Johnson&#39;s offense.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BuildingTheBoard?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BuildingTheBoard</a><br><br>✅ Blazing speed with a 4.38 forty-yard dash; Slippery in space (<br>✅ A serious mismatch weapon in the pass game<br>❌ 7 fumbles on 270 career touches <a href="https://t.co/hjMazp3NSM">pic.twitter.com/hjMazp3NSM</a></p>&mdash; Quinten Krzysko (@ButkusStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/ButkusStats/status/1896271036934729875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bowser 03-02-2025 01:53 PM

Some of those plays and formations look like they were lifted straight out of Andy's playbook

Couch-Potato 03-02-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17985253)
Calling my shot today: Jaydon Blue

This is the guy. 2nd most athletic RB to Tuten but to me he has a much better feel for the passing game. Andy is close to Sark so like Worthy, he’ll know everything about him. But you can’t deny the kid looks natural catching passes and his speed is legit. Showed it vs the best teams in CFB and Sark’s offense has a lot of similarities to Andy’s.

Only thing I don’t like about him is hand size but it didn’t appear to hurt him as a receiver.

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I mean c’mon guys. This just looks like an Andy Reid RB.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Texas RB Jaydon Blue would be a great fit as a passing down back in Ben Johnson&#39;s offense.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BuildingTheBoard?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BuildingTheBoard</a><br><br>✅ Blazing speed with a 4.38 forty-yard dash; Slippery in space (<br>✅ A serious mismatch weapon in the pass game<br>❌ 7 fumbles on 270 career touches <a href="https://t.co/hjMazp3NSM">pic.twitter.com/hjMazp3NSM</a></p>&mdash; Quinten Krzysko (@ButkusStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/ButkusStats/status/1896271036934729875?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Very nice

In58men 03-03-2025 08:41 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the Chiefs draft Devin Neal, they will draft who Kareem Hunt would&#39;ve been had they never cut him. <a href="https://t.co/QlYu871sbe">pic.twitter.com/QlYu871sbe</a></p>&mdash; ����‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1896570783683768548?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TomBarndtsTwin 03-03-2025 09:41 AM

Henderson is still my top guy at RB for this offense (targeting that #63 or #66 pick), but if he's not there you guys have convinced me on Tuten a little later. Just need to clean up those ball security issues.

smithandrew051 03-03-2025 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17985707)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the Chiefs draft Devin Neal, they will draft who Kareem Hunt would&#39;ve been had they never cut him. <a href="https://t.co/QlYu871sbe">pic.twitter.com/QlYu871sbe</a></p>&mdash; ����‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1896570783683768548?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’m a Devin Neal guy, but he didn’t run well.

Had a bad 10 yard split and 40.

He’s still my guy, but I’d like to see more burst this time around.

Of course, I’d still take him late if that time makes him fall.

Dante84 03-03-2025 01:47 PM

Maybe its the burnt Orange, but I see some JC in Blue.

Ollie is a beast, but I don't know if he has the initial burst/acceleration that this particular offense needs. Also, his drop-off was curious.

kccrow 03-03-2025 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17985995)
Maybe its the burnt Orange, but I see some JC in Blue.

Ollie is a beast, but I don't know if he has the initial burst/acceleration that this particular offense needs. Also, his drop-off was curious.

If you can lower his fumble rate, Blue has a pretty good shot at being an electric change-of-pace guy. I like Tuten a lot more, but I'd champion Blue if Tuten isn't a possibility.

Dunerdr 03-03-2025 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17985995)
Maybe its the burnt Orange, but I see some JC in Blue.

Ollie is a beast, but I don't know if he has the initial burst/acceleration that this particular offense needs. Also, his drop-off was curious.

Ollie put on weight and clearly wasn’t happy in a rumored toxic okstate environment. The dui and weight hurt him. I’d still take a chance late. I think the burst of old is still there if he’s trimmed down. But he needs to be the old Ollie to be a functional nfl back.

Iconic 03-06-2025 08:19 AM

i may have actually came watching this.

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Mosbonian 03-06-2025 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17986095)
If you can lower his fumble rate, Blue has a pretty good shot at being an electric change-of-pace guy. I like Tuten a lot more, but I'd champion Blue if Tuten isn't a possibility.

Those fumbles seem to be the big knock on Blue....I have heard 3 or 4 Mock Drafts focused on RB's and the one thing that seems to be the big red mark is his tendency to fumble.

Couch-Potato 03-06-2025 11:49 AM

There are so many good running backs in this draft it’s insane. Can’t wait to see who we take!

Iconic 03-07-2025 10:17 AM

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lord have mercy there are literal GEMS in this class. walking out of the draft without an additional body for the rb room will be a sin.

Couch-Potato 03-08-2025 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17990932)
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lord have mercy there are literal GEMS in this class. walking out of the draft without an additional body for the rb room will be a sin.

THANK YOU. YES! I’ve been championing him for us for awhile now and felt like no one else was on board. Great fit for McKinnon’s role!

RunKC 03-10-2025 06:27 PM

How is DJ Giddens not being talked about? Dude has size, good speed, great vision, solid contract balance and elite elusiveness/lateral agility.

Also has experience as a receiver. Really like his game

kccrow 03-10-2025 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17995289)
How is DJ Giddens not being talked about? Dude has size, good speed, great vision, solid contract balance and elite elusiveness/lateral agility.

Also has experience as a receiver. Really like his game

Ever since Tyreek, I have looked at the running backs and thought one or two of them could be a good wide receiver in each draft. I think that's what Giddens is to me this year. I think he'd be a better NFL WR than he would be an RB.

That said, I do really like him a lot. One of the things I don't like is that he runs far too upright, and that his height, coupled with that running style, is going to get him smacked in the knees too much. The other thing is that he doesn't really run with any power for his size. I also don't think he has very good lateral agility, but what he does have is this nice, real quick side-hop step that he does that is super effective. Overall, though, I think he finds the running lanes pretty well, and he hits them fast. He has some jets, too. From all accounts, he's pretty bad when kept back to pass block, so his 3rd down value might diminish his overall value.

RunKC 03-12-2025 03:30 PM

Dylan Sampson didn’t run at his pro day yesterday after not running at the combine. Wonder if that will push his stock down a bit? Think he’s a 3rd rd pick that could potentially fall to the 4th.

Good option for pick 95

kccrow 03-12-2025 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17997337)
Dylan Sampson didn’t run at his pro day yesterday after not running at the combine. Wonder if that will push his stock down a bit? Think he’s a 3rd rd pick that could potentially fall to the 4th.

Good option for pick 95

247 reported he ran between 4.46 and 4.49 in the 40 at his pro day

Snerd 03-12-2025 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17997530)
he ran between 4.46 and 4.49 in the 40 at his pro day

Interesting. I thought he was faster than that.

Couch-Potato 03-12-2025 10:52 PM

that’s still pretty fast

RunKC 03-13-2025 09:28 AM

Per Dane Brugler (X won’t embed right now)

Tennessee RB Dylan Sampson only ran the 40 at yesterday's pro day (and didn't disappoint).

4.42/1.58

Not too shabby!

staylor26 03-13-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17998018)
Per Dane Brugler (X won’t embed right now)

Tennessee RB Dylan Sampson only ran the 40 at yesterday's pro day (and didn't disappoint).

4.42/1.58

Not too shabby!

I'd take him with the Titans pick.

Snerd 03-13-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17997793)
that’s still pretty fast

Yeah, it is. But for some reason I thought he was a sub-4.4 guy. Not sure where I got that idea though.

Couch-Potato 03-13-2025 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17995289)
How is DJ Giddens not being talked about? Dude has size, good speed, great vision, solid contract balance and elite elusiveness/lateral agility.

Also has experience as a receiver. Really like his game

Awesome agility!

Couch-Potato 03-14-2025 12:21 PM

Does signing Mitchell and Hunt change your position on RB being a top need in this draft?

SithCeNtZ 03-14-2025 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17999112)
Does signing Mitchell and Hunt change your position on RB being a top need in this draft?

In my opinion? No. There is a good chance if we draft someone with one of our first 4 picks they will be better than every RB we have. Does it change what I think the Chiefs will do? Yes. It's hard to see them drafting a guy with a top pick after signing two rbs. It sounds like they think they are good there for another year and will do something else unless a guy falls into their lap.

Snerd 03-14-2025 01:19 PM

I think they're just insurance in case things don't fall right to pick a RB.

staylor26 03-14-2025 01:24 PM

There's no way they're good with just running the same RB room back minus Perine and plus Mitchell. They're going to take a RB in this deep class 100%.

RunKC 03-14-2025 01:57 PM

Posted this in the lounge and posting here too. This is my guy. He would be so ****ing incredible in Andy’s offense.

Veach, please. I beg you.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m a huge fan of Treveyon Henderson, but I might rather just take Jaydon Blue 2 rounds later and get potentially the same kinda player minus the pass pro <a href="https://t.co/xO7Yw8oa3N">pic.twitter.com/xO7Yw8oa3N</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1899812782402330889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 03-14-2025 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17990932)
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lord have mercy there are literal GEMS in this class. walking out of the draft without an additional body for the rb room will be a sin.

3rd best 40 in the draft after Blue and Tuten. Extremely elusive. Solid vision. Former WR turned RB who has lined up in the slot, outside, etc.

I’m a huge fan of his. One of my favorites.

Couch-Potato 03-14-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17999301)
3rd best 40 in the draft after Blue and Tuten. Extremely elusive. Solid vision. Former WR turned RB who has lined up in the slot, outside, etc.

I’m a huge fan of his. One of my favorites.

Me too! Posted the below in the lounge...

Plenty of RB's in the draft we can look at for McKinnon’s role.

Dylan Sampson, Bayshal Tuten, Brashaard Smith, DJ Giddens, and RJ Harvey fit the bill, to name a few. These guys are the type of lighting strike playmakers we need to add in the mid rounds IMO.

kccrow 03-14-2025 06:43 PM

I don't think we're getting Tuten unless we take him at 66. He's a 20 lb heavier version of De'Von Achane with more explosive strength.

I'm gonna keep on rooting for Tuten, though.

kccrow 03-14-2025 06:59 PM

It seems the board's feelings on this guy are ho-hum, but I'm just going to finally admit it... I really, really like Cam Skattebo.

He's tough as shit, his contact balance is ****ing insane, he lowers the boom for tough yards, he catches it extremely well, he has a really great jump cut, he finds the cutback lanes... All he lacks is 4.3 speed, but I'd guess he's probably 4.55. He's just a really freakin good back that doesn't get nearly enough love He has the heart of a champ. This is the type of guy you want as a 3-down starter, and you add an explosive situational back to the rotation behind him.

In58men 03-14-2025 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17999503)
It seems the board's feelings on this guy are ho-hum, but I'm just going to finally admit it... I really, really like Cam Skattebo.

He's tough as shit, his contact balance is ****ing insane, he lowers the boom for tough yards, he catches it extremely well, he has a really great jump cut, he finds the cutback lanes... All he lacks is 4.3 speed, but I'd guess he's probably 4.55. He's just a really freakin good back that doesn't get nearly enough love He has the heart of a champ. This is the type of guy you want as a 3-down starter, and you add an explosive situational back to the rotation behind him.

Damn, he has power lol.

Gives me Marshawn Lynch vibes. Yeah, count me in.

In58men 03-15-2025 03:37 PM

Crow, do you think there’s a possibility we take him at 31 or is that way too high for him?

Just wanted your thoughts on his draft position. I watched more clips of him today and yeah he’s going to be a stud.

GloucesterChief 03-15-2025 06:09 PM

That is way too high for Cam.

Hampton I could see and maybe justify but not Cam.

Tribal Warfare 03-16-2025 11:20 AM

2025 Combine Speed Scores



Spoiler!

smithandrew051 03-16-2025 04:57 PM

Hampton will be a star

kccrow 03-16-2025 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 18000064)
Crow, do you think there’s a possibility we take him at 31 or is that way too high for him?

Just wanted your thoughts on his draft position. I watched more clips of him today and yeah he’s going to be a stud.

Oh no, not in round 1. Maybe with one of the round 3 picks.

In58men 03-17-2025 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18000840)
Oh no, not in round 1. Maybe with one of the round 3 picks.

He’s definitely a guy I’d take in the 3rd round. He’s a dawg.

RunKC 03-17-2025 05:12 PM

CC staylor

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ridiculous stat incoming...<br><br>Tennessee RB Dylan Sampson had 36 carries with 2 or fewer yards to go. He had 33 first downs!!! 92%. That is unbelievable.</p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1901766921676312646?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 03-17-2025 05:13 PM

RJ Harvey, boys. That's our guy.

staylor26 03-17-2025 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18001586)
CC staylor

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ridiculous stat incoming...<br><br>Tennessee RB Dylan Sampson had 36 carries with 2 or fewer yards to go. He had 33 first downs!!! 92%. That is unbelievable.</p>&mdash; Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaydenWinks/status/1901766921676312646?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For a smaller guy, he's fantastic in short yardage on tape, but that's impressive.

In58men 03-18-2025 08:14 AM

DJ Giddens Kansas State

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...509/dj-giddens

https://youtu.be/kZXml-eYSIg?si=jsemJkTQiDWIwtBe

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RunKC 03-18-2025 09:05 AM

RJ Harvey. This is what you want your back to look like. Thick ass thighs, rocked up arms. Compact build built for breaking tackles and pass protection on 3rd down.

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SAGA45 03-18-2025 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18001588)
RJ Harvey, boys. That's our guy.

What I like about Harvey most is his patience....there's a subtle Le'veon Bell-like hesitation step before picking a hole.

I don't think we'll see many all-22's where Harvey misses a big hole or cutback opportunity like we often saw with CEH or Pacheco. He's always scanning for opportunities.

Just curious how long it takes him to adjust to NFL speed and reach the realization that'll have even less time to select a hole and GO.

Couch-Potato 03-18-2025 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18001886)
RJ Harvey. This is what you want your back to look like. Thick ass thighs, rocked up arms. Compact build built for breaking tackles and pass protection on 3rd down.

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He’s a lot bigger than I expected

smithandrew051 03-18-2025 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18002584)
He’s a lot bigger than I expected

I said the same thing when Chris Jones ran the 40

Couch-Potato 03-19-2025 06:02 AM

Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

Chris Meck 03-19-2025 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18002781)
Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

I don't know.

staylor26 03-19-2025 08:02 AM

It's a loaded RB class. Only so many can go early.

kccrow 03-19-2025 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18002781)
Why doesn’t RJ Harvey have a higher draft projection?

Size/power and pass protection.

It's a loaded class with a lot of backs that have those things.

I love Harvey as much as anyone, he's one of the first RBs I remember talking about this offseason, but he has flaws too and those flaws probably make him a 2-down RB. He's a great receiver but not a 3rd down back with those issues.

RunKC 03-19-2025 09:09 AM

Right now I think RJ Harvey, Dylan Samspson and DJ Giddens are my favorite RB’s for us.

I still like Tuten, Blue and Smith as well but not quite as much.

Giddens has really grown on me. I see Damien Williams when I watch him. Only 1 fumble in his college career. Most elusive back in the class IMO

staylor26 03-19-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18002937)
Right now I think RJ Harvey, Dylan Samspson and DJ Giddens are my favorite RB’s for us.

I still like Tuten, Blue and Smith as well but not quite as much.

Giddens has really grown on me. I see Damien Williams when I watch him. Only 1 fumble in his college career. Most elusive back in the class IMO

I still think either of the Ohio St. guys would be the best fit, just not confident either makes it to 63. I could totally see us trading up for our choice at RB though.

RunKC 03-19-2025 10:25 AM

Yeah I should have clarified. Those are my favorite guys after the top guys. I don’t talk about them anymore bc I don’t they’re realistic options.

Charles Robinson said on his pod that RB’s are gonna go earlier than we think. Mentioned the Raiders likely taking Jeanty at 6 and the Steelers, Broncos, Bears taking a RB in rd 1 or 2.

Makes sense considering the Broncos and Steelers don’t have a real RB1 currently and Ben Johnson couldn’t get rid of DeAndre Swift fast enough in Detroit.

I have a hard time seeing the Steelers pass on Judkins. He feels like a Steelers pick

Edit-Steelers traded their 2nd for Metcalf. Maybe Judkins could fall to us??

CatfishBob2 03-19-2025 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18003057)
Yeah I should have clarified. Those are my favorite guys after the top guys. I don’t talk about them anymore bc I don’t they’re realistic options.

Charles Robinson said on his pod that RB’s are gonna go earlier than we think. Mentioned the Raiders likely taking Jeanty at 6 and the Steelers, Broncos, Bears taking a RB in rd 1 or 2.

Makes sense considering the Broncos and Steelers don’t have a real RB1 currently and Ben Johnson couldn’t get rid of DeAndre Swift fast enough in Detroit.

I have a hard time seeing the Steelers pass on Judkins. He feels like a Steelers pick

I was just about to say this

My favs in order are
Hampton, Jeanty, Judkins, Henderson, Tuten, Harvey and Johnson. I would be surprised if any of them are left after the 3rd round.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were only 1 or 2 left going into the 3rd

bigjosh 03-19-2025 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CatfishBob2 (Post 18003092)
I was just about to say this

My favs in order are
Hampton, Jeanty, Judkins, Henderson, Tuten, Harvey and Johnson. I would be surprised if any of them are left after the 3rd round.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were only 1 or 2 left going into the 3rd


I agree with this.

I would even endorse hampton at 31 to right the CEH wrong


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kccrow 03-19-2025 02:37 PM

What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?

Chris Meck 03-19-2025 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003482)
What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?

Basically, I want RJ Harvey.

Lol

kccrow 03-19-2025 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18003490)
Basically, I want RJ Harvey.

Lol

Would you scream when Reid won't play him on 3rd down?

bigjosh 03-19-2025 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003482)
What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?


I like pacheco.

Pacheco should not be the primary back, and to me a guy like hampton would put pacheco where he belongs on an nfl depth chart as a change of pace back.


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Couch-Potato 03-19-2025 04:40 PM

To answer Crow's question I want a lighting strike back.

I'm right there with RunKC in that I gravitate towards Sampson, Tuten, Giddins, Harvey, Smith, and Blue but also like the tops guys if we're somehow in position or willing to grab one like Jeanty (impossible), Hampton, Johnson, or Henderson. I'd also throw Neal into the mix and a few others... basically it's a really exciting year for RBs and I'm stoked to see who we get.

How disappointed would you be if we didn't take a RB though!?

kccrow 03-19-2025 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18003630)
To answer Crow's question I want a lighting strike back.

I'm right there with RunKC in that I gravitate towards Sampson, Tuten, Giddins, Harvey, Smith, and Blue but also like the tops guys if we're somehow in position or willing to grab one like Jeanty (impossible), Hampton, Johnson, or Henderson. I'd also throw Neal into the mix and a few others... basically it's a really exciting year for RBs and I'm stoked to see who we get.

How disappointed would you be if we didn't take a RB though!?

That's another question I was about to pose... Would you rather a RB or a WR?

I truly do not think there are adequate resources to take one of each. I say that because I firmly believe that we will take one of each of OT, DT, DE, and S or LB with those first 5 picks. I lean towards S over LB because of depth issues there.

I think WR is a strong consideration because of one-year deals comprising half our corps and an open roster spot. Reid has proven time and again he can get production from just about anyone at RB.

SAGA45 03-19-2025 06:34 PM

Oregon's Jordan James is a fav of mine. Not a homerun threat but will pick up some of the most violently entertaining chunk gains you'll see in this class outside of Judkins and Skattebo.

Love his short area lateral quickness. His feet, scrappyness and overall movement sort of remind me of Beast Mode. He's definitely one of my guys.

Couch-Potato 03-19-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 18003762)
Oregon's Jordan James is a fav of mine. Not a homerun threat but will pick up some of the most violently entertaining chunk gains you'll see in this class outside of Judkins and Skattebo.

Love his short area lateral quickness. His feet, scrappyness and overall movement sort of remind me of Beast Mode. He's definitely one of my guys.

He's another one!

To Crow's point, unfortunately for this thread, I think the need is greater right now for a WR than another RB but I wouldn't be shocked if we nabbed a FA ring chaser WR before the draft.

Buehler445 03-19-2025 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003482)
What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?

Slippery is what I want. When Reid was in Philly he always had dudes he'd get the ball to in space and they'd be seemingly impossible to tackle. That's the part that's missing from Reid's offense.

We're not giving a dude 40 carries. Give me one that is good for 10 runs and 10 absolutely soul crushing catches.

Vision, short area quickness, good field awareness and feel. Not big and plodding. Those guys are available anywhere.

Basically Jamaal Charles. I know Charles isn't walking through the door, but maybe Charles less the long speed.

Chris Meck 03-20-2025 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003498)
Would you scream when Reid won't play him on 3rd down?

Nope.

Most RB's come into the NFL with pass blocking being a question mark. They're just often not asked to do it much in college.

I see no physical or mental reason why Harvey won't be able to do it. He's certainly bigger than Mckinnon, for example. (actually, he's not, apparently, he just looks bigger).

And he's a PLUS pass receiver, so I really don't see it as a long-term issue.

As a rookie, he'll have to earn PT. I have no problem with that.

Coogs 03-20-2025 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003692)
That's another question I was about to pose... Would you rather a RB or a WR?

I truly do not think there are adequate resources to take one of each. I say that because I firmly believe that we will take one of each of OT, DT, DE, and S or LB with those first 5 picks. I lean towards S over LB because of depth issues there.

I think WR is a strong consideration because of one-year deals comprising half our corps and an open roster spot. Reid has proven time and again he can get production from just about anyone at RB.


Devil's advocate question here. What if the Chiefs would move on from Trey Smith? Even for a high 3rd rounder from some of the teams with high cap space, plenty of picks, and a need at IOL? Pats? Jags? Bears maybe? Plus there are a few more teams in that same situation.

Another 3rd rounder (give or take), and 23.5 million of cap space. Might not need to spend all of it now, but wait until after the draft to see what vets get released by other teams, possibly even as late as June to fill the positions we couldn't in the draft.

Probably won't happen. But it's interesting at the same time. To me at least.

SAGA45 03-20-2025 07:35 PM

For the Harvey-ites. Enjoy...

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kccrow 03-20-2025 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 18004061)
Devil's advocate question here. What if the Chiefs would move on from Trey Smith? Even for a high 3rd rounder from some of the teams with high cap space, plenty of picks, and a need at IOL? Pats? Jags? Bears maybe? Plus there are a few more teams in that same situation.

Another 3rd rounder (give or take), and 23.5 million of cap space. Might not need to spend all of it now, but wait until after the draft to see what vets get released by other teams, possibly even as late as June to fill the positions we couldn't in the draft.

Probably won't happen. But it's interesting at the same time. To me at least.

I'm not opposed but then I think you have to look at drafting an IOL at some point as depth at least.

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2025 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18003482)

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?

A durable 3 down back with great contact balance which usually is of the Kareem Hunt mold that grinds a defense down.

Coogs 03-21-2025 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18005375)
I'm not opposed but then I think you have to look at drafting an IOL at some point as depth at least.

I'd tend to agree. But we did draft at that postion a couple of times last season later in the draft too.

DJ's left nut 03-21-2025 02:04 PM

I want someone that can legitimately threaten the edge when when we utilize outside zone.

I want someone that makes the DBs run conscious. They just don't have to give a shit at ALL against the run because they have all day to react to a handoff. They don't have to bite on play-actions because...who gives a shit? Stay in your drop-back an extra step. Get extra depth. At worst, it turns a 3 yard gain into a 4 yard gain because nobody's hitting the 2nd level and putting you under pressure.

The LBs don't have to worry about the edges either so they can crash the middle.

We have nobody that can threaten the edge and force CBs to at least respect the running game. It makes things quite a bit easier for those defensive backfield.

If I had any faith that Mitchell could handle even 100 touches without breaking, I'd be a little less concerned. I don't.

I just think we need someone that can pressure the defensive backfield.


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