Let's examine this game that you're clutching your pearls so tightly over, as the one singular reference you have as a poor performance by a coach, compared to your hero whose playoff collapses are many, and the stuff of legend.

So the Vikings in the 88 divisional round. How was that defense again?

The Minnesota Vikings had one of the best defenses in the NFL finishing with the following stats:
Total yards allowed: 4,091, the best in the league
Yards per play allowed: 4.3, the best in the league
First downs allowed: 243, the best in the league
Takeaways: 53, the best in the league
Passer rating against opposing quarterbacks: 41.2, the lowest in the 1980s and fifth all-time for the Super Bowl era.

I'm not sure that any poor performance against that unit could be considered a choke, but sure. Let's say your pearl clutching is valid.

If that's the case, then your boy Andy Reid lost at home to Brad Johnson in an NFC championship game, and is just as culpable. Another legend in the echelon of the magnificent Jake Delhomme.

I mean, if we're not going to factor two of the greatest defensive seasons on record and put it squarely on the coaches, your boy still has plenty more gaffes than Bill Walsh, who created the offense he's used for decades.

Yikes. Lmao.

Translation: You are making laughable excuses to justify Bill Walsh’s epic choke against the Vikings, while you criticize Andy Reid when he similarly chokes in the playoffs.

Bill Walsh with Joe Montana and Jerry Rice lost at home to an 8-7 Vikings team in the Divisional Round. One of the biggest choke jobs in postseason history… and you are frantically trying to minimize this to save your Reeruned face. LMAO

Also since you claim to rank Bill Walsh higher than Andy because of his supposed “offensive genius”… explain why Walsh was a sub .500 HC without Montana or Young as his QB.

Where was his supposed “genius” without the benefit of a HOF QB?

Explain.

Belichick?

Before losing to Pittsburgh, Belichick beat the Patriots in the 1994 playoffs and his starting QB was Testaverde.

One thing that sticks out to me is that the DL is not getting the pressures that it did last year and CB blitzes are usually required to get sacks. This is going to affect the CB play as well. It isn't whining, IMO, to point out concerns and discuss them. Jones and Kelce are a year older, the WR room isn't wonderful, the LT situation is concerning, etc. The team has some blemishes and unfortunately, the 2018 Chiefs offense isn't walking through the door.

Remember that time Andy blew 18 point lead at home to the Bungles, with the best player that ever lived running his offense?

Walsh created an entire offensive scheme, was in the playoffs 7 of the 10 years he coached, went 10-4 with 3 Superbowl wins in an era where defenders could commit attempted murder every snap.

Walsh is regarded as one of the greatest coaches in NFL history, and you seem to be the only one struggling with it.

Look inward.

What was Bill Walsh’s record without having a HOF-caliber QB?

Hint: It was below .500.

“One of the greatest HC’s in NFL history” could only win with Joe Montana and Steve Young as his QB’s?

Andy went to four straight NFC Championship Games with McNabb at QB… who is not in the HOF.

Meanwhile your boy, Bill Walsh couldn’t even sniff a winning record without having a HOF QB.

Explain.

Is it your contention that Bill Walsh is not a legendary HC?

Explain.

Andy Reid is a more successful/accomplished/better overall HC… that’s my contention.

And your laughable attempts to justify why you rank Bill Wash ahead of Andy have continued to be ripped apart to shreds.

Try harder.

I'm flattered (mostly disturbed) that my top 5 list means so much to you.

You've really gone Ham on Gibbs and Walsh, just to get Lil ol me to move Andy up a couple spots.

How would your life improve if I changed my list?

Do you write letters to Andy?

Why, I'll bet you were right there at the top of the list of cpers that would fap to Andy eating a pan of au gratin potatoes in that thread.

While I find your obsession with how I rank coaches amusing, I think it would be best for your mental health if you just let it go.

It's okay sugar bear. Andy will be The Chiefs coach until he decides not to be, no matter what that mean ol Wallcrawler thinks.

I'll be on the edge of my seat waiting for your thread on how you discredit every coach besides your hero. Should be just as amusing as holding it against Bill Walsh that he got Joe, and holding it against Gibbs that there were strikes.

You're on a roll champ, it really deserves its own thread.

Let your Andy freak flag fly.

Running backs were down, my guy. Especially when they see a surge in their carry volume later in their careers.

Larry Johnson just stopped being good? Not because Herm ran him into a brick wall 350 times in a season?

If your NFL football player CANNOT PLAY FOOTBALL against your only competition for the 1 seed, then it is time for him to retire.

Rest him against Carolina. Vegas. Back to back weeks that Carson Steele should be able to start and get the W.

Don't bring this oh Kareem is getting 5 yards on first down, but let's not beat him up in a road game against one of our biggest rivals bullshit.

Hunt was having the best success he's had all season, and Andy pulled the plug in favor of passes that couldn't get blocked up.

It's a gaffe. So what.

But don't tell me we didn't win the ****ing game and ignored what was working well, because we want to save Hunt.

Get the 1 seed and you get a bye week.

The fact that your boy Bill Walsh had a 5-17 HC record, and zero playoff appearances when he didn’t have a HOF QB is really getting to you. LMAO

Meanwhile Andy went to four straight NFC Championship Games + a Super Bowl appearance without having a HOF-caliber QB.

Advantage: Andy Reid.

That fact drives you crazy.

Cope harder.

JFC, get a room it's been like 3 ****ing days.

Chiefs won't lose another game this season.

Yeah it really kept me from a good night's sleep last night that some random Florida ****tard disagrees with my list.

Im not sure how to carry on with my life without your approval.

Show us on the doll where Walsh and Gibbs hurt you.

Look, he's been hurt.

You don't decide how long it takes him to heal.

We're just now getting to the doll method where he can show us where Walsh and Gibbs hurt him.

Show some sympathy for a victim, you callous bastard.

I so hope that you're right.

JV squad could drop a meaningless contest at the end.

On paper, the offense that we will be rolling into the playoffs with looks to be the perfect storm of new players getting comfortable, and injured players returning to field an absolutely ****ing disgusting smorgasbord of ass rape.

LT Humphries probably has the job shoring up LT by post season.

Tag Team of Pacheco and Hunt to destroy any shell looks, and drastically improve the effectiveness of play action.

Dhop, Worthy, Hollywood, Juju, Kelce, Gray, Hardman.

I mean, God Damn. I know that it's just on paper, and tge guys gotta mesh, but if that engine is firing on most cylinders, defensive coordinators are going to be having some exceptionally loose bowel movements at the prospect of scheming this group.

Hey, yea!

A "tap out accepted" file was launched and executed up the page. I mean, that's it.

Unless... digs through the 5th grade playground recess norms ... Okay think I found it

"Invocation of a "false narrative" must be submitted by the projected "tap outer" within the first 6 hours of launch to reverse the tap out".

Shit's complicated here.

Shit, seems like we need an algorithm.

if (falseNarrative) {
move(goalposts);
begintapOutClock(tapOut);
}

if (tapOut = "Acknowledged" or (goalpostMove = true AND tapOutMin >= 360)) {
exit;
}

I don’t think this team loses until we rest our starters in Denver.

The back half of this schedule is much easier than the first half. I am not worried about the Panthers, Raiders or Browns at all.

Texans and Chargers will be a pain in the ass but we will win at home. The Steelers cannot score on this defense and we will score enough.

We will get Omenihu, Pacheco, Humphries and Hollywood injected into this team with fresh legs and start rolling.

It's not really that complicated.

Florida****tard is upset that I don't have Andy ranked higher on my list for what I view as valid negatives against him during his pre-Mahomes career.

Negatives such as being the only championship winning coach in history to take 20 years to accomplish it, whiiiiiich just so happens to coincide with Andy getting the best player to ever live to fall into his lap.

Now, Florida****tard has a crutch that Andy got to all those title games "without a Hall of Fame qb", as if this is some massive achievement that places Andy above all others.

Let's examine that, shall we?

Donovan McNabb is not in the hall of fame. True. However, in the 10 years he played for philly, ( keeping in mind 2 of his seasons were cut short to season ending injury) he went to 6 pro bowls.

From 2000 through 2009, McNabb's 10 years as the Eagles' opening-day starter, he had the 4th-most wins in the NFL (behind future Hall of Famers Peyton Manning.
Tom Brady and Favre], the 3rd-most passing
yards, 4th-most TD passes and 2nd-most
playoff wins at 9, trailing Tom Brady's 14.

So, Andy had a top 5 statistical quarterback in Passing yards (3rd) and Passing Tds (4th).

So, this strawman Florida****tard hides behind is exceptionally weak. Surely if Andy is the greatest of all time, he could have taken that top 5 statistical qb, and got himself some hardware.

Couple that, with Jim Johnsons utterly ferocious defenses,From 2000 to 2007, Johnson's units rank tied for first in theNFL with 342 sacks, second in the league in 3rd down efficiency (34.3%) and red zone touchdown
percentage (43.0%), and fourth in fewest points
allowed (17.6 per game).

Theres no denying that Andy Reids philly teams that made that run had the horses to win multiple titles. He was quite often favored in these contests he lost.

Andy's struggles with clock management, and refusing to run the football with backs Deuce Staley and Brian Westbrook, and instead putting all of the pressure on McNabb in the Passing game led to gaffe after gaffe, wasting some of the most talented rosters the Philadelphia franchise has ever fielded.

Andy has always been very much "I do what I want to do, not always what I should do" playcaller.

Having the best player to ever live fall into his lap allows him to get away with that more than he normally should, coupled these past couple seasons with the ferocious defense that Spags had constructed.

word salad for being a miserable hater

you won't even enjoy tomorrow's win

Have your handler read it to you, reerun.

When you come into the GDT and act like a coward, know who will be watching.

Um, question please, WHO is whining? What are you referring to? Our beloved CHIEFS are 9 - 1 What's the problem. I am joyful as all hell be got! :thumb:

Haven't seen clayster this fired up since before the election

Bulletin board Batman?

Then you missed his epic dump at Kohl’s a few days ago.
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bought some new sweatpants there last night

stood in front of a white lady wearing what appeared to be a burka...wtf is this world coming to?

Incoming "triple dog dare".(Total breach of protocol bypassing DDD)

I'd go for a more 'Middle Out' approach to the algorithm, if it were me.

They sell burkas at Kohls?

she probably got it at the curry place down the street

Yeah, it would get complicated quickly.

We'd probably need specific antagonist routines, which would get interesting when two antagonists are going at it.

There would be the "88 routine"... call everyone reeruned 400 times, and whenever anyone says something intelligent, tangent into left field with other random arguments.

There's the "Classic CP" routine... default to black & white arguments where you automatically pigeonhole your opponent into the opposite, dumbest extreme possible to make your own argument look less reeruned.

"Baby Lee" routine... angry, super passive aggressive wall of text arguments dating back a decade or older.

"Every Sentence Counts" routine... where you quote the person 80 times while breaking down a response; plays well with any of the routines above.

And then you'd throw those routines into CP randomness.... the hijack, the pile on, summarizing by meme, etc.

Agreed.

And learn how to communicate in a CONCISE and coherent manner.

All of your posts are word salad messes.

LMAO

I'll go ahead and add illiterate to your list of deficiencies.

Just keep telling yourself that a top 5 statistical qb, and one of the eras best defenses was in no way enough to expect Andy Reid to win a title before 20 years passed and landing the best player who ever lived.

Two coaches since Andy left the Eagles took their teams to superbowls in their second year's with the franchise with less than Andy was working with for over a half decade lmmfgdao.

Imagine holding this guy blameless for those squandered rosters.

Just change your username to FloridaAndyStan.

Why do people give a speckled shit about Andy’s time with Philly? Andy winning the Lombardi with Philly means no Andy in Kansas City.

Good progress, Wallflower.

You managed to communicate your incoherency in a slightly more concise manner.

Baby steps.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I felt nothing that last drive. It was so hard to get fake excited. This win feels like a loss.</p>&mdash; Mark Gunnels (@MarkAGunnels) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkAGunnels/status/1860796421990961217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

These are the kinds of fans this thread is directed at. So spoiled they can't even enjoy wins at this point because they won by 3 points instead of 9.

NEVER apologize for a win in the NFL.

I was actually more encouraged by this win.

Felt like no matter what our offense was going to win it

Reminder this team lost FOUR games from this point on last year. FOUR. And they had one of their worst losses in the Mahomes era…on XMAS. And they still won it all.

Don’t care about the OL. It will be better when it matters…like last year. The defense will be better when it matters like Spags has almost always done.

Worthy progressing like Rice last year
Mahomes on a 12 TD/3 INT heater the last 5 weeks
Pacheco, Omenihu and Hollywood coming back
Humphries taking over at LT

Don’t care. This team always has these games this time every year. Lost 4 games last year. In 2022 beat a 3-8 Donkey team and horrible pre-Stroud 1 win Texans team at the end of the game.

This team will be in the AFCCG again at minimum. R-E-L-A-X

The only thing I’m really concerned about is our corners.

Everything else will be fine

We haven't lost a playoff game in 2;years. Let's all relax a little.

I think a lot of the defensive issues goes away with effort on the defensive line, and we all know how much that can make a difference in the playoffs. A weakness in the secondary will obviously be exploited by at least one quarterback in the playoffs, but then there's Mahomes on the other end... and yeah, I'm just not worried about that side of the ball even a little. The offensive line issues go away when Mahomes is decisive and in the zone... and then like you said, guys will get healthy at the right time and find ways to win.

On top of that, the huge aspect no one talks about is playoff experience... and right now that's the Chiefs, Bills, sort of the Ravens, and the Eagles. Not (currently) dealing with Burrow or the 9ers is huge... people can be scared of these other teams, but the playoffs start and it's a completely different level across all 3 phases and coaching to know how to win and close out games.... and there's a ton of inexperience across the board right now.

They know. They will fix it. R-E-L-A-X

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is from <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>’s latest piece. Just a snippet of the reaction post-game. They know <a href="https://t.co/RgyVeqrNBk">pic.twitter.com/RgyVeqrNBk</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Harms�� (@InHarmsWay19) <a href="https://twitter.com/InHarmsWay19/status/1860854180807651819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They know what? They're 10-1 and have been playing in and winning close games like this for years now.

I’ve never seen someone get so upset that the players know they should and would like to play better.

Who's upset? If you're talking about the fans bitching and moaning during a 10-1 season coming off B2B SBs for doing what this team literally does every season (playing and winning close games consistently), I agree.

Twitter Chiefs fan: “waaaaah the Chiefs only barely beat the Panthers”

Meanwhile the NFL this week:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PIT lost to a 2-8 team on Thursday.<br>HOU lost to a 2-8 team today. <br>WASH lost to a 3-7 team today. <br>MIN needed overtime to beat a 4-6 team today. <br><br>Do with that information what you will.</p>&mdash; Quarrels Omenihu  (@emceereach) <a href="https://twitter.com/emceereach/status/1860839724832702688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’m confident that we’re still the best team in the NFL but I’m not sure I’d take Nate’s observations here as a positive

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Maybe this is a leap by me. But this postgame speech makes it sound as if the locker room is frustrated that they need a late FG to beat Carolina. <a href="https://t.co/JfZpj6FXpZ">https://t.co/JfZpj6FXpZ</a></p>&mdash; Rob Brenton (@RoblBrenton) <a href="https://twitter.com/RoblBrenton/status/1860821567606771805?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Andy seemed to feel it, too. His message really echoed the tweet I quoted above. It’s hard to win in the NFL. Hey, if this inspires a similar wake-up call to what we saw afree our Christmas Day loss to the Raiders, I’d be thrilled it happened without a humiliating primetime loss.

Whining about the team with the best record in the NFL?
 

You obviously. Your entire schtick is that the team doesn’t care about these meaningless regular season games and that’s why they, offense specifically, is poor at times. Players being unhappy with their play and and a game, despite winning, is clearly a complete rebuke of your excuse making.

Why are they acting like that? Don't they know they are 10-1 and just won the Superbowl? Bunch of whiners who can't enjoy the run they're having smh my head.

The Chiefs attitude should scare the shit out of people.

To have that kind of fire in their bellies after back to back Super Bowls is going to lead us to greatness.

And chiefs players right?

There are Chiefs fans currently arguing on Twitter that Brett Veach is a fraud.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN IS A WIN (10 of them)! <br>That&#39;s all I have to say about that.....for now! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoChiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoChiefs</a></p>&mdash; Danan Hughes (@dahughesguy83) <a href="https://twitter.com/dahughesguy83/status/1860807735647797572?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spoiled and stupid is a bad combination.

And there are Chiefs fans who every week ignore how frustrated Mahomes is at his play and the offenses play. Mahomes himself was saying he wasn't playing up to his standards and when people here agreed, you just bring up the team record and act as if they're miserable fans for agreeing with Mahomes.

Every week he's on the sideline by himself with his face scrunched up clearly not having fun. But fans can't talk about that and discuss how he and the offense can improve without you guys acting like all of this is some kind of strategy and Mahomes is purposefully playing below his standards in the regular season.

Both sides are stupid.

Oh, I'm completely fine. I'm the guy enjoying watching a 10-1 team coming off B2B SBs with the best QB in NFL history and not bitching and moaning about them missing a couple throws/playing a few close games in November as if that is something worrisome or abnormal.

The fact that you can't appreciate we are squarely in the middle of the greatest run in NFL history isn't my problem.

I am specifically referring to the reactionaries lighting up my timeline on Twitter.

This.

The Chiefs have consistently played down to each and every opponent. Teams that we should crush are allowed to hang in to the 4th quarter.

Even in post season "when it matters" they're going down multiple scores before all the pistons get firing.

It's obviously something they're accustomed to, and it's nice to have experience upon experience of winning games like this, but honestly there's really no rule against coming in and slamming the door from the kickoff.

Spags has some work to do with his pressure packages, because they are getting blocked up pretty well.

Admittedly that kid made a few absolute dynamite throws in that game that remind you that there's no defense for a perfect pass. The td bullet with Duff's arm in between the receivers arms, and that throw where he absolutely got blasted back to the stone age and still threw a ****ing dot for the first down.

You'll live with those, because God damn, that's not going to happen all the time.

I think the Chiefs across the board, fans included thought this was a win just for showing up. We opened the game strong, and expected them to roll over, and they refused.

Allowing 20-9 to turn into 30-27, when your defense typically plays far superior football in the second half is just frustrating to watch.

the ****ing athletic

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WTF is a pulse record

I think that’s what they wish our record actually was

Bullshit.

i love how little of a pulse these writers have on the ebbs and flow of the league. Teams fluctuate in their quality of play, but these guys get something in their head about a team in week 2 or 3 and roll with it for the rest of the season. “Oh, it’s the Panthers! They suck!”. Now, on the surface, this is correct. Yes, the Panthers suck. No one would argue this, but let’s take a more nuanced approach here.

the Panthers had won their previous two games and were clearly playing with more mojo than they were at the beginning of the year when they were utter lame ducks. Young has been building confidence, they’ve gotten some guys back on offense and their running game has started to get going a little bit. Not to mention that Canales is a young coach who’s also figuring it out, and appears to be getting it going too because there were some very well designed play on offense from the Panthers.

And I’ve said it a million times, but look around the league. This is the part of the year where upsets are plentiful and a lot of games are insanely close, regardless of the differences in quality between teams. I mean, I don’t think there was a single person seriously picking the cowboys to upset the Commanders. A result that goes completely against everything we’ve learned from the beginning of the season.

So yeah, TLDR; sports journalists are brain dead tunnel vision ass mfers

"pulse record"

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Bills will demand that the 1 seed be determined by “Pulse Record” after the Chiefs 3-Peat

We need a photoshop of the Bills raising a “Pulse Record” banner

Chiefs are going to rape the Raiders this week and I’m gonna be ready for the media to just STFU already

How the **** did the Athletic come up with the narrative that were we lucky to win yesterday? We were never behind and were tying the game for a total of 3 minutes and 11 seconds. The only reason they had a sliver of hope was because of bullshit decisions by the referees, even with our defense playing like shit. Whoever wrote that piece of shit article should be hung, drawn, quartered and then set on fire.

That's why I think the whole cardiac Chiefs memes are crazy overplayed (and saw them again last night)... the game was definitely a grind and I wouldn't have been sad had I missed it, but the Panthers never even had a possession where they could take the lead (outside of scoring a touchdown + 2pt conversion early in the game, I guess).

It was frustrating to watch, but not stressful at all (oh no, Mahomes has to get into FG range with 1:45 on the clock? :spock: ) or lucky. Good teams can play like shit and beat the dumpster fires of the league... that's always been a thing.

The Bills played almost an identical game to this against a 2-6 Miami about 3 weeks ago. They let the Dolphins score to tie it with an almost exact amount of time left and the Bills kicked a FG to win (although that was 61 yards and not 30, so it was a bit more up in the air).

Nothing about yesterday's game was unusual for the NFL.