Nashville, Portland, Salt Lake City, Charlotte or Raleigh… plenty of options available for the Royals if they are freed to leave with a No vote today.

Are we even sure the Royals wanted this location over the other downtown location? It may have been the preferred location from city officials

They absolutely would...

I don't vote or operate based on fear. And you shouldn't either but based on this thread you have a lot going on in your life.

I don't think you truly understand how many people in today's environment have absolutely zero desire to give billionaires money.

Isn't it great he cares so much...when he lives in Florida?

You do realize today’s vote is just continuing the same 3/8-cent sales tax that those “billionaires” are already getting?

Tell that to Charger and Raider fans.

Should we pay that tax till the end of time just because?

And St. Louis fans who have lost two NFL franchises.

**** them as well.

Have you calculated how much that sales tax has cost you personally on an annual basis?

Small markets dont have a choice. It is the world we live in. Also gives the community pride and solidarity. A sense of togetherness instead of divisiveness which the world needs more and more everyday.

No, i get it. You dont give a shit about your city retaining its sports franchises.

You think that these teams are just bluffing and they wont move.

Dumbass Chargers, Raiders and Rams fans thought the same shit.

You shoulda seen the crying after the Chargers left town.

Specifically for sports... people who give no shits about sports already pay out the ass for cable/streaming due to sports, much less any taxes.

It's ok Charger fans, we know you lost an NFL team and a 70,000 seat stadium, but here's the San Diego Loyal Soccer club and a 35K seat stadium in its place!

I like how the rates of anything and everything are comically overpriced, yet here we are being told we have to give billionaires more money.

You also seem to forget not everyone even gives a flying **** about sports.

And the hilarity of people not wanting to keep an existing 3/8-cent sales tax in place… only to watch the Chiefs/Royals leave Jackson County… and take with them the revenue they generate for the county.

Not to mention having major professional sports teams is what differentiates KC from the likes of Wichita, Des Moines, Omaha, Louisville, etc.

A strange hill to die on… all to avoid keeping the exact same 3/8-cent sales tax in place.

If anyone cares Oklahoma City just had a vote like this to give the Thunder a new stadium, even though their current one was built only 20 years ago. The Thunder were basically saying we're gonna move if you dont pay for the entire thing. (Or 95%+) and the vote passed rather easily.

KC isnt NY or LA or Chicago or Dallas. The owners of the team around here can, should, and can ask for the world. It would really be bad business not to.

Yeah Gen Z a buncha dorks.

5 dollars says their basketball arena is nothing compared to what is being asked for here.

Says the person with 110,000+ posts on a sports message board.

Did I say me?

We're talking overall here, not everyone cares about sports.

Ayyyy lets goooo

What does this even mean son.

I understand. Just kiss your sports teams goodbye and dont say you weren't warned. If they end up leaving, i dont wanna hear any bitching from the peanut gallery about it.

Like i said, Chargers fans said the saaaaame exact shit. You shoulda heard them pouting afterwards.

white liberals, making society worse since 2008

Like 80%+ of TV households in KC watch Chiefs games on average… the “not everyone cares about sports” group is a small segment of the population based on those metrics.

It'd be amazing if you knew what you were talking about occasionally.

I'm not versed in what's going on with ya'lls stadium situation, but everything i've read so far is exactly like the situation in San Diego.

And the same arguments Mecca and Zach are making were also made here.

"We don't want to give money to billionaires".

You're focused on the wrong thing. Your tax money is going to billionaires regardless. This isn't about saving you tax money, fools. This is about which special project GETS your tax money.

You can bet your ass you will be paying that tax in something else.

In San Diego, politicians and non-sports fans aligned to lead the public to believe that the hotel tax that the Chargers wanted to fund the stadium was about billioniares.

That was a lie. It was about ANOTHER project those politicians wanted to fund. The Convention Center remodel.

In the end, San Diego said "No" to using that hotel tax to build a stadium. The Chargers left.

Later, the city approved a new hotel tax to fund the remodel of the Convention Center as they wanted to invest in keeping Comic-Con in town. New pedestrian bridges that no one wanted etc.

And you know what happened after that? Covid hit. And Comic-Con was basically canceled and reduced to a shell of its former self.

Take a ****ing history lesson, before you're doomed to repeat it.

Quit the bullshit, it's not about billionaires. It's about which special project you WILL eventually be paying for.

Did that all by themselves, huh???

That's the truth.

So is this gonna pass or what?

The stadiums are city buildings not the billionaire's buildings.

That said billionaire uses to make a larger profit...

That would be like if I used tax payers to subsidize a mansion, but only I used it for my needs and had a few gatherings here and there on my grounds.

The “No” side is trying to rig the election by turning voters away who are wearing Chiefs/Royals apparel, even though that is perfectly allowed:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FYI, if you are voting today in JaxCo, you can wear a jersey, shirt or hat of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Royals</a>, but you can NOT wear &quot;Save the K&quot; apparel or &quot;vote yes/vote no&quot; gear. Would be impermissible electioneering.<br><br>You&#39;d have to take it off, turn it inside out or change to vote.</p>&mdash; Tod Palmer (@todpalmer) <a href="https://twitter.com/todpalmer/status/1775223998802010524?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It won’t matter in the end… Team Yes will win.

You have severe issues with reading comprehension.

You are *so close* to getting it. Just think a little harder

If somebody is fired up enough to wear a shirt specifically about this election they will probably be willing to put a jacket over it while they vote.

JFC the desperation of Team No…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jackson County is dealing with a ransomware attack, and the county executive has declared a state of emergency.<br><br>STORY &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://t.co/OMRroPoXu2">https://t.co/OMRroPoXu2</a> <a href="https://t.co/jZpHrbcE9P">pic.twitter.com/jZpHrbcE9P</a></p>&mdash; KCTV5 News (@KCTV5) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCTV5/status/1775221434555547655?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe? Seems really close but No has had a run of momentum lately. If I had to bet I would say it barely passes.

I need to become a used car salesman. There are a surprising number of people who accept the first offer.

If the stadium vote fails, we can keep the sales tax to pay off the ransom instead. Great job, Frank.

Yes, a city building that happens to include a private, luxurious, billionaire's suite that is comparable to a 3-story, 6-bedroom condo.

Enjoy getting taxed for "homeless outreach programs" instead!

I voted yes.

It is not a perfect solution...but a no vote opens the door to the Chiefs and Royals leaving...and not just leaving for Kansas or North Kansas City.

Those who vote no are okay with KC being another Des Moines, Omaha or Little Rock. While there is nothing wrong with those places, they are not Major League cities.

KC is the smallest market with both an NFL and MLB franchise. This is a fair deal for Jackson County--and give how corrupt the legislature is, does anyone really think they would not figure out a way to get that sales tax money another way and use it for something stupid?

This is the golden era of Chiefs football...and we can gurantee the Chiefs being here for another 40 yes without increasing taxes? Seems like a no brainer to me.

The Royals are putting in more money than any other team that has built a stadium in the last decade...but we need a better offer?

The Chiefs have won 3 championships in 5 years. Build a few more condos for them wherever the **** they want.

Read this…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a clear violation of both Kansas City and Jackson County voter laws. While poll workers are prohibited from wearing Chiefs and Royals licensed gear, voters are within their rights to wear team logos when they go to the polls.” (2/2)</p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1775221946172477708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

^^ fake news

Seems preferable, considering it already costs more than it's worth to attend a Chiefs game in a 53-year-old stadium.

Huh. I wouldn't have thought that there would be any restrictions on what you could wear to the polls as a voter (though I obviously understand it for those working the polls). Can you not wear MAGA/Biden2024 stuff to vote in a presidential election? I've voted via mail for like 20 years, so I had no idea.

Should be able to wear whatever u want unless you are loitering around polling areas

More to it than that don't know the San Diego situation but this was rushed to the ballet with very little details and remember it has the Chiefs & Royals on it. This thing would fail easily if it were just the Royals on the ballot. The Royals were literally just throwing shit against the wall closer to the election because it wasn't looking good for this to pass. Neither of the teams are leaving if this particular vote fails what it will do is bring them back to the table and an actual plan will be hashed out. Blindly approving billions with a lack of a plan is a recipe for disaster.

You mentioned repeating history. Look into the Sprint Center/ P&L "We will get a team and it will pay for itself" boondoggle.

Nope nothing that's considered "campaigning" within X amount of feet of a polling place.

Ramping up for a lawsuit in case this lose is what this is.

Spoken like someone who doesn't attend games or spend any money at the stadium whatsoever.

Stop with the ruse.

Kc is the 7th smallest in the NFL

Green Bay
Buffalo
New Orleans
Jacksonville
Las Vegas
Cincy
Kc
Baltimore
Tenn
Pitt
Indy
Carolina

No, spoken like someone who has attended games and decided it's no longer worth the hassle or the expense.

Shouldn't be surprised by the amount of low info voters on CP part of the reason why the DC section reads like a Walmart

And Im glad they did PNL and the Sprint Center. It is one of the best projects KC has had. It puts Kansas City on the map. Downtown is light years better than it was in the 90s.

But it didn't pay for itself and 15 years later the city is still using funds to pay for it.

And with the Royals new park across the street it would make that area even better.

Power and light has been a massive failure and there is no NBA tennent for spring center vote NO

Read the article, dipshit.

Packed crowds every weekend.
Big 12 parties
Playoff watch parties
Super watch parties
World Cup watch parties
Concerts

T mobile always in the top 10 for busiest venues in the US

It’s not a failure because of that. And yes it did revitalize downtown

Yeah can say it’s failing because it’s losing money because of over rubs. Not because it’s not being used

But still vote no. I agree

Doesn’t help. The guy is a complete joke. He doesn’t care if he embarrasses himself He does quite well doing it

The bolded cities are smaller, but do not have an MLB team. I thought Cincy was bigger if you included their entire metro area vs our entire metro area.

Either way, we are either the smallest or second smallest city that has both MLB and NFL.

Seriously? The T-Mobile Center has been a great success.

Enterprise Rental Car… which tried to defeat the arena vote 20 years ago is now bankrolling KC Tenants and other puppet groups to support Team No for today’s vote.

PNL is owned by Cordish(IIRC) out of Boston.

:thumb:

Voted yes. I know saving that 3/8 cents would have been life changing but I like having the chiefs and royals better.

John Oliver is a douche

P&L/New Airport Survivor now marked safe from 3/8 cents

Voted yes, really hope the royals don’t end up in KCK

Where the K is now is pretty-much KCK...

You aren't looking at the big picture though and just direct costs. I guarantee you visitors have a much favorable opinion of KC than they did decades ago in the 80s and 90s. That gets ppl to decide to visit, pursue careers here, spend money at other adjacent businesses when there are events. Its an entertainment district that is also a marketing concept to show off Kansas City to the world. It has been a huge success for KCs image overall. A small price to pay for such benefit.

The Royals will probably just leave if they don't get a new stadium. But if a team does move to the Legends that is a much much much better area than where the stadium complex is now. Its not even close.

Can we revive Glass from the dead and give the team back to him?