Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454786)

Maybe they think something is better than nothing? I dunno maybe the team doctor thinks his knee is a timebomb that will explode at anytime so they got what they could.

You dont wanna pay 19 mill and have him blow a knee 4 games in then you're stuck holding that bag.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17454792)

Would have been better off not tagging him at all. Having 20m in cap tied up through the peak FA wave for some minimal gains didn't really seem worth it.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17454800)

No kidding.

They put a nearly $20 million freeze on their available cap space with the tag and all they are getting in return for that is a third round pick next year.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454797)

Worse than… a 7th round swap?

The options were:

- let Sneed walk, have money when FA starts OR use it how you wish, and likely get a 3rd comp pick next year after there’s a bidding war for Sneed

- keep Sneed on the tag and have a great corner this year, then let him walk next year and get a ‘26 comp maybe

- tag him, trade him for nothing new this year, and have money to spend weeks after FA began.


Again, love Veach, SBs, etc… I just don’t get choosing option 3 from above.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454782)

Veach has made several miscalculations in his time here.

He's been excellent but by no means infallible.

This was a mistake. If this was all you could get, keep him. And if you were unwilling to keep him, don't tag him and lock up your cap space for the first two weeks of FA.

And teams/agents also have memories. Good luck running this bluff next year, Brett...

This was just bad. He got this wrong.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454803)

If you were completely unwilling to keep him on the tag (and we clearly were) then you don't ****ing tag him.

It's a bad bluff. It is, at best, mitigation.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 17454806)

And if they had shopped the cut players pool, they would have likely still landed a comp 3rd for Sneed. Just baffling.

Originally Posted by AusChief (Post 17454802)

If you don’t think it went wrong

An older Charlton Davis got significantly more compo last week. We got bent over. Irrespective of what Mahomes does or who Veach drafts.

They are not related

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454803)

If you were completely unwilling to keep him on the tag (and we clearly were) then you don't ****ing tag him.

It's a bad bluff. It is, at best, mitigation.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17454755)

He can't force someone to give KC a high pick AND pay that salary.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454812)

Shit. That's a really good point.

Davis isn't half as good as Sneed. Nowhere close.

**** - this is just so bad that it defies belief.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454805)

That cap space is going to be used on valuable players like Mike Danna.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454809)

If Sneed knows his knee is that bad he has every reason to refuse to play on it, if you were told your knee could go at anytime this is his 1 chance.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454822)

I’d have rather kept the best CB in the NFL last year than a rotational DE.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454820)

All I can say is his knee must be far worse than anyone really knows.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 17454811)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We gotta stop with the comp pick thing especially for KC. Most years we sign a guy who would negate what a top player leaving would fetch back (Jawaan, Reid, Thuney, Tyrann, Sammy) and at the time of tagging it felt better than not that you could get a 2 for Sneed. Still got a 3.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1771380484255232216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by 493rd (Post 17454816)

Are you this dumb? The only way the Chiefs were going to get ANY compensation was by tagging him and then trading him. By tagging and trading him at least we got something. Other he’s a free agent and we’d get nothing. Once again Veach is playing chess.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454822)

I’d have rather kept the best CB in the NFL last year than a rotational DE.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP (Post 17454811)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We gotta stop with the comp pick thing especially for KC. Most years we sign a guy who would negate what a top player leaving would fetch back (Jawaan, Reid, Thuney, Tyrann, Sammy) and at the time of tagging it felt better than not that you could get a 2 for Sneed. Still got a 3.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1771380484255232216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454827)

So there's literally nothing that could've happened that you would've criticized.

Got it.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454750)

4th round value.

The 3rd isn't even this season.

Like I said, it's an awful trade.

They should've kept him. Restructure other guys and kick the can until after Kelce retires.

This is just god-awful resource management. It's just bad. There's no sugar coating it at all. The team is worse than it was 2 hours ago and got next to nothing in return.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454825)

I guarantee you if you asked the Chiefs, they'd tell you McDuffie is better.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454750)

4th round value.

The 3rd isn't even this season.

Like I said, it's an awful trade.

They should've kept him. Restructure other guys and kick the can until after Kelce retires.

This is just god-awful resource management. It's just bad. There's no sugar coating it at all. The team is worse than it was 2 hours ago and got next to nothing in return.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454838)

You just changed the discussion into a straw man.

I said Sneed made more sense than Danna for 2024.

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17454839)

I think it’s pretty simple. If Wayne Morris had hit then we wouldn’t need the money for a vet LT which is where this money is going to go. It also makes it much easier to sign Creed and Bolton. We’re drafting an OG to replace either Thuney or Trey Smith.

I have been clear that the opportunity to keep a super team together is worth the pain down the road but Veach clearly intends to keep this going thru the draft.

Or maybe there’s a problem with Sneed that we don’t know about.

Anyway, good for Sneed getting paid and I think players will appreciate how we treat our best players.

Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17454719)

No one imagined we would get that little. It’s unconscionable.

We should have kept him.

If we needed the cap Space that badly they should’ve taken more out of the Mahomes contract. Also, are there any other contracts we could restructure?

It’s all right to say “in Veach we trust” but this is clearly a terrible move on his part. He needs to be called out on it when you mix blunders like this. No one always hits home runs and he shouldn’t be expected to either. And obviously he has done well overall. But this is terrible. Much worse than the sky Moore draft because you didn’t know you were getting someone useless then. Now you know you’re treating someone of really great value for essentially nothing.

Correct me if I am wrong, but is anybody aware of a elite corner being given away for so little ever by anyone?

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17454832)

It’ll be more than just Danna getting a deal lol.

Come on man smh

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17454632)

2025 3rd and 2024 7th round pick swap. What an abysmal trade.

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 17454721)

Veach can draft players? He's blown two first rounders in CEH and FAU. He traded up to score Breeland Speaks in the 2nd round. Mecole Hardman over DK Metcalf. The Skyy Moore experience.

Facts not in evidence, AusChief, if that is your real name.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454846)

Okay, Danna + CEH? Donovan Smith?

Give me Sneed.

Also we still had money on the books and restructures to create more cap if needed.

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17454828)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With L’Jarius Sneed’s $19.8M franchise tag going off Kansas City’s books, they have more flexibility to potentially re-sign free agents such as Mike Danna and Donovan Smith.</p>&mdash; Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1771380018800656749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17454842)

It was reported yesterday that Sneed didn’t want to play on the tag. Probably bc his knee is a problem and be damn well knows the risk isn’t worth it.

So what do you do? Force him to go to camp and do the Chris Jones shit again?

You guys want to restructure guys and push the can down the road. If we’ve learned anything, it’s that Veach wants flexibility. He already spent insane money on Chris.

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 17454852)

You gotta believe Birch has something simmering on the back burner that's gonna WoW us when it happens. I have faith in him. Has he ever really let us down?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454859)

Why do people think CEH is coming back?

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454859)

Why do people think CEH is coming back?

Originally Posted by AusChief (Post 17454747)

Can not believe that a team trying to historically 3peat for a chance of rarified air loses a top 5 player and gets absolutely nothing that will help this year. In either picks or cap room to sign FAs.

Absolutely botched. Same as CJ last year

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17454861)

If they use Sneed money to overpay Danna....


Yikes!

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454866)

I was being facetious, because that’s all that’s left to resign. Danna and Smith are the realistic ones, and we likely could have done 1 with needing this cap space.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454870)

In reality they could use that money to sign Danna, Dobbins, KJ Osbourne and an OT and still have money left.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17454873)

SNEED HAS MISSED ZERO ****ING GAMES IN HIS CAREER DUE TO HIS “KNEE”. EVERYONE PLEASE SHUT THE **** UP ABOUT HIS KNEE

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17454872)

Guys, there’s a reasonable middle ground where you can disappointed in this trade while also believing Veach is still a great GM.

You don’t have to talk yourself into liking this just to defend Veach.

You also don’t have to think Veach is an idiot just because you don’t like this trade.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17454870)

In reality they could use that money to sign Danna, Dobbins, KJ Osbourne and an OT and still have money left.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17454872)

Guys, there’s a reasonable middle ground where you can disappointed in this trade while also believing Veach is still a great GM.

You don’t have to talk yourself into liking this just to defend Veach.

You also don’t have to think Veach is an idiot just because you don’t like this trade.

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17454880)

Yeah I'm here with this.

Just tough cause the weirdos that hate Veach "just because" are coming out of the woodworks now that they finally have some meat on the bone to chew on.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17454882)

And they'd be a better football team with Sneed and a more aggressive restructuring of Mahomes/Taylor to sign an OT.

They got worse for no benefit. The cap space could've been created through other means.

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17454885)

You mean like the idiot complaining about the “last 3 free agency periods”, which resulted in at least 2 Super Bowls?

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17454884)

I love Veach. Always will.

Just feel like it’s a rare fumble (and I’m hoping they play isn’t over)

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17454808)

But Jewish Rabbi and the ladyboy cucks that like his every post don't agree. Surely he must be right and the rest of us are all wrong...