You sure when Mahomes is throwing to Skyy Moore and Justin Watson and Tua is throwing to Cheetah and Waddle?


Having Mahomes is great but the QB does have to throw the ball to NFL players to be effective.

The Broncos are only one game back and the way we are playing right now they would beat us again I'm afraid. Hate saying that but.......:rolleyes:

You believe this, and it's sad.

Based on what the Bills did to us today, the Ravens would have a puncher's chance at shutting the Chiefs out.

The quick hitters to Rice are likely going to dry up in the postseason.

Teams are going to start camping that shit.

Travis ****ing Kelce in the playoffs chopped ****ing liver?? Yeah give me the three future HOFers in Reid/Mahomes/Kelce and a great young receiver in Rice over McDaniel/Tua/Hill and Waddle.

I'll take our defense over theirs as well.

Some of you need to grow a pair! I agree this Chiefs team is freaking struggling. No dominant team in the AFC thoough. Still a month until the playoffs start.

Yes, we know he has Kelce. The problem is that we don't have any help to take the pressure off. Any NFL team with only 1 matchup weapon is easy to stop.

Sorry, we will be entering the playoffs with one of the weakest offenses in the tournament.

1 Miami 0.513 0.505 0.763 0.586 0.455 0.397
2 San Francisco 0.487 0.552 0.737 0.482 0.490 0.424
3 Dallas 0.486 0.604 0.519 0.584 0.376 0.410
4 Baltimore 0.426 0.475 0.290 0.497 0.358 0.328
5 Buffalo 0.421 0.409 0.370 0.468 0.375 0.426
6 Philadelphia 0.409 0.410 0.275 0.454 0.363 0.435
7 Detroit 0.404 0.446 0.589 0.424 0.384 0.415
8 Indianapolis 0.382 0.354 0.456 0.406 0.358 0.262
9 Denver 0.377 0.387 0.288 0.397 0.350 0.266
10 Seattle 0.367 0.354 0.547 0.380 0.354 0.388
11 Houston 0.363 0.340 0.349 0.378 0.342 0.285
12 Jacksonville 0.361 0.434 0.456 0.339 0.381 0.379
13 LA Chargers 0.358 0.190 0.098 0.383 0.331 0.344
14 Kansas City 0.357 0.347 0.311 0.371 0.345 0.456
15 LA Rams 0.354 0.481 0.581 0.358 0.349 0.307

As of right now? Baltimore is my pick. They are far more built for this than Miami. They don’t need Jackson at his best to beat Miami while the Dolphins will need Tua at his best against the Ravens. I just can’t see Miami going into Baltimore in January and knocking the Ravens off.

100% it's why the loss of quality WRs was clearly a very bad decision. This offense isn't feared in the least; this group isn't even good enough to avoid a silly "lined-up offsides" penalty. Nevermind that it wasn't called when they were, but that's just how the NFL officials are trained to call gmes.

Kelce drawing OPI on the regular now is a concern. More than likely he is running on fumes and thinking about retirement.

He won't quit if we flame out early. But if he comes back next year Veach owes us a SB favorite roster, no Green Bay Packering it next offseason.

There should be some serious loading up and credit card spending.

We wasted the best defense we may ever have in the Mahomes era.

One receiver could have made a difference.

Last year of Chris Jones, last year of Sneed cheap, a Mahomes in his prime.

Yeah, take the money you should have spent this year and fix this for one more run. Let Kelce go out a 3 Time SB Champion.

I think the Bills are playing @ Miami week 17 for a bid to the playoffs. If Bills win, turning right around and playing them again wildcard weekend #7 Bills @ #2 Dolphins.

#1 Ravens
#7 Bills @ #2 Dolphins
#6 Broncos @ #3 Chiefs
#5 Browns @ #4 Jags

Just stated a fact. 12-5 is a strong possibility for the Chiefs and also the other top contenders. It’s going to come down to whether the prince can knock off Baltimore in Jacksonville and if Dallas can take out Miami on the road. Both very doable.

With some thanks to Chris Jones' offseason clown show, Burt Veach couldn't deal for a receiver.

No reason why he couldn't have signed at least one half-decent veteran receiver.

Even if we win the SB it’s still not too early. Thing’s obviously have to be changed regardless of the result

Should have been traded prior to the draft, letting it drag out was a huge **** up

Mike Evans and a first round receiver to pair with Rashee Rice. One more run with Kelce and start a mini rebuild.

Not trying to be negative for the sake of it but the team is so undisciplined it may have still not been enough imo. There’s just so much wrong. I’m not sure Nagy is getting it done. I’m not liking our WR coach and just the general feel of the offense is not filled with fire as before.


I’m sure it would be better. But how much is my question. I think MVS and Toney would still have their problems

Thou art correct, his selfish bullshit didn't help.

yea pretty much agree with this to a tee

my hopes aren’t particularly high for this season atm but we can def flip the switch at any point. getting tired of waiting for that moment tho

WHERE has THIS been all season???

Likely won’t have to, even if we have to play in the WildCard Round with teams like CLE, CIN, DEN, IND, and PIT in the hunt.

Could be looking at one layup and three games against teams with warts just like us.

Or, hell, still 4 weeks left. More than enough time for an implosion from MIA and BAL to give us the 1 or 2 seed.

They have tough schedules left. It won’t take an implosion.

They miss EB's attention to detail.

Ravens would need to lose 2 games in four weeks. They’re a good team. That would be a bit of a mini implosion, IMO.

Dolphins schedule isn’t too tough.

We’ve got an outside shot at the 2 seed if we take care of business. Our odds of getting the 1 seed are basically slim to none at this point.

I'd say there's a great shot at the 2 seed and a pretty decent shot at the 1 still. I wouldn't have thought that to be the case, but after simulating it I realized it doesn't take any crazy scenarios to get there. Basically, KC needs to take care of business against a bunch of backup QBs, and we need Jacksonville to beat the Ravens at home and Miami to lose to the Cowboys.

I don't think this is it. There were so many problems with attention to detail in 2021.

I think this team once again got caught up in its own hype. They think they deserve the 1 seed and thought it would be as easy as last year.

Andy and Veach literally thought Mahomes could do what he did last year and it has killed this season.

That's why teams never repeat unless they cheat aka the Broncos and Patriots.

It's really ****ing hard to do

Ya know what, you’re right. It can happen. Ravens have the 49ers, Jaguars and some division games left. Dolphins have the Cowboys, Ravens and Bills.

It was the Jags who had a relatively light remaining schedule and their QB is now hurt.

You’ve convinced me. I am back on the hype train for the 1 seed. That baby is as good as ours!

Some of you deserve to see this team lose to New England.

Cowboys, Ravens, Bills isn't tough?

I already addressed that I remembered wrong.

I was confusing them with the Jaguars.

Basically this. We've made the road a whole lot tougher but it can be done. The Chiefs on the road in Baltimore or Miami is a 50/50 game. Don't give up yet guys

I bet they lose all 3 of those

There's a good chance we could...

Sigh. I guess we're getting to this point.


Has anyone looked or posted the potential FA WRs/TEs for next season?

You see where this is all headed, right?

Well, they have to win that game convincingly to maybe give a reasonable belief fixes can be made. And convincing, to me, is basically sustaining a two possession margin for the majority of the game.

This team was down 14-0 to the Raiders.

THE ****ING RAIDERS

For the #1 we need to win out(4-0) and Ravens (2-2), Phins (3-2).

Phins Schedule:
Titans Home: W
Jets Home: W
Cowboys Home: 50/50
Ravens Away: 50/50
Bills Home: 50/50

Whats up with Miami having 4 of the last 5 games at home? I still think going 3-2 could easily happen for them.

Ravens Schedule:
Jags Away: 50/50
49ers Away: L
Phins Home: 50/50
Steelers Home: W

Again I could see them going (2-2) during these last 4 games.

Now Chiefs:
Pats Away: W
Raiders Home: W
Bengals Home: 50/50
Chargers Away: W

Of course AFC West games can be tricky no matter the record but I think this boils down to Bengals. We should win out but lets see what happens.

LOL. For the love of God, the Chiefs aren’t getting the #1 seed! It’s like the blinders are permanently affixed to some faces here.With 4 games left, the 2023 Chiefs are what they are - a undisciplined mediocre team with an offense prone to penalties, turnovers, and every other mistake.

You shut your whore mouth.

Some of us haven’t given up on an 8-5 season when we’re in 1st place in our division, the 3rd seed in the conference, with a HOF QB, a HOF coach, and the 1 or 2 seed well within our reach.

I will never count out a team that has Patrick Mahomes at QB.

However, for this team to make a serious run, he needs to be his best, and his teammates need to quit making mental mistakes.

Can that happen? Absolutely.

Will it? We have 14 weeks of evidence that points to no, unfortunately.

Here's to flipping the switch.

Nobody is giving up whatsoever. I’m confronting the reality of the situation and you know what? I’m okay with it because you can’t win the ****ing SB every year and this is one of those years. The Chiefs have the youngest defense in football and will no doubt reload in the offseason for another run. Sometimes the lemonade from lemons isn’t immediate but that’s okay because without all these glaring issues we likely wouldn’t be making the drastic changes that are most certainly coming. What happened after the OL debacle against Tampa? I see something similar playing out at WR next year.

You are giving up. Listen to the way you’re talking, like the season is over..

Tell me, what Super Bowl winner from the last 10 years was certain to win it all in December?

2022: We lost to the Bengals in December and knew we’d have to go through them in the playoffs
2021: The Rams lost 3 straight games to close out November. That looked like the Bills’ year.
2020: The Buccaneers were a Wild Card. It looked like the Chiefs would win it all that year easily.
2019: At one point Mahomes’ knee was sticking out the side of his leg. It took us recovering from three different 10-point deficits to win it all that year.
2018: The Patriots lost 2 games in December this year, including hilariously fumbling the 1 seed to the Chiefs.
2017: The Eagles lost their MVP QB in December
2015: The Broncos started Brock Osweiler and the corpse of Peyton Manning
2014: The Patriots lost 2 games after Thanksgiving
2013: The Seahawks were starting a second year QB. It took holding the best offense ever to just 8 points in order to win it all.

By my estimation, the only one I’d say had the inside track was the 2016 Patriots and even they were down 28-3 at one point to the Falcons.

I’m not giving up until the clock hits 0:00 and we’re down in a playoff game. Take that weak ass shit somewhere else.

Hell, a few people were gloating in the GDT when it was 14-0... that's how self-important they feel when predicting doom every season. They'd much rather predict doom, be right, and then rub it in people's faces than simply be optimistic (even without making any predictions).

No idea how they consider themselves fans, speaking only of ~5 and probably not even 10 of the worst chicken littles.

Yeah, there's only a handful of them but they're the loudest ones in the room at all times. Then they start to swing the opinions of some of the folks who have a hard time forming their own thoughts as opposed to just posting memes all day.

Some of you are becoming soft… KC is in a rough patch, but they’ll win 3-4 more. Quit your bitchin’…

Just an honor to bring home another AFC West Title and play in the postseason.

It's all gravy after two rings!

At this point I don't think they're overly focused on anything but their next game and getting better. That's it, and that's all they can do, nothing more, but nothing less.

I think the whole organization knows they're in deep trouble right now and each and every person on the payroll has a large task in front of them if they want to be competitive in this year's playoffs.

They all need to look in the mirror and understand the person they're looking as is part of this team and part of the solution.

Coach better, play better, win. That's the only way forward.

It’s so weird.

We spent 30 years knowing we were at a disadvantage just hoping to make it to the postseason where” anything can happen!”

Now we’ve got the best coach-QB combo in the league with, by far, the most postseason experience in the league and mfs want to give up before a single snap is played in January.

The same people saying it's hopeless would have been making SB plans if Toney had been lined up a few inches back. LMAO

It's a game of inches.

The Chiefs consistently don't have those inches.

The Bills are like us, a team that finds ridiculous ways to lose games. So beating Buffalo doesn’t fix anything fundamental here. Maybe it keeps the hope of the 1 seed alive a bit longer.

I mean, if you want to write off what will likely be a 12-5 team led by Mahomes/Reid/Kelce and a top 5ish defense, because you're convinced that they're going to make a silly mistake at a crucial moment, that's your prerogative. I'm guessing this is mostly schtick though.

At least two or three of the games we lost came down to a single play/mistake.

We can still buckle down and win the SB.

Need a little more attention to detail and some luck.

The Chiefs make silly mistakes all throughout the game, dude.

That's why they are lucky to score 20 points in a game these days.

It's what they do. It's not changing.

This is as weak as the AFC has been in recent memory. There are no dominant teams. Baltimore and Miami are going to take some lumps the last month of season and perhaps sustain some serious injuries in some of those physical games.

If we were in the NFC right now with San Fran, Dallas and
Philly I'd be concerned. Im sorry though I'm not gonna sit here and say I dont think we can get through a stretch
consisting of say Denver, Jacksonville, @Baltimore (or similar depending on how the standings shake up come January).

They've also beaten two of the top contenders in the AFC.

Sorry if I'm not ready to match everybody's negativity about a team that could/should have 1-2 losses max. If they were getting rolled, couldn't move the ball, couldn't stop anybody, etc, I'd probably throw in the towel too. We're far from that. Literally all they have to do is avoid dumb penalties and costly turnovers.

You're welcome to believe whatever you want. I haven't given up by I'm always on Team Reality and the reality is you don't win Super Bowls now without legit NFL WR's. Maybe we catch a few good matchups and move on to AFC Championship. I will always cheer for the win but this roster is just flawed.

Chiefs fans 2013-2017: "Alex just needs to be aggressive from the start of the game and throw the ball in the end zone!"

Never thought I’d say this, but they need someone like Bieniemy to chew some butt and make offensive players accountable for their actions!

We’re going to reload with offensive weapons this offseason and shove it up everyone’s asses next year

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/sta...r=danorlovsky7

Absolute horse shit. He was lining up in a similar manner all freaking game. No warning, no communication, lets hold that in our back pocket and call it at most critical juncture in the game. Zero excuse for it.

With this team the time to start thinking about 24, is when 23 is in the books... but good grief at this rate thats gonna be sooner than later for us

I want the first big signing of free agency to be a real NFL grown man WR.

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You sign big Michael Pittman and you have two beasts dominating the middle of the field with Kelce. Then you add speed at WR for another vet signing then head to the draft to add more weapons.

Chiefs aren’t winning the SB bro put your bottle down.

I have a lot more faith in KC's ability to line up properly and not fumble six times/game than in a QB suddenly changing his stripes.

If that shit Broncos team could win it, this team definitely can.

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Bump

Care to share your thoughts tonight DJ??

Right now, we're kinda a .500 team ourselves.

Bump.

Team is done…their offense hasn’t improved…

This is all on Reid, Nagy, and the entire offense

Nobody is faster to predict defeat than Chiefs fans.



(and yes this is a shitshow)

I won't believe we're done until we're actually done.


However, we just had to run a fake punt gimmick play against LVR in the first half, so we're probably circling the drain at this point. Gotta put a plug in this thing asfap.

Weren’t they down 17-0 to the Raiders last year only to go out and win it?