I just told staylor, its not about the player, its about the pick and spending draft picks to move up.

I hope he can be coached up that way. Not too concerned about his athleticism. But he’s gotta learn to catch with his hands and we can’t afford inconsistently in an efficient offense. I mostly like it but hes got a very long way to go before he becomes even 30+ year old DHop

And there’s a reason why Tillman was the more polished and real size receiver mocked to us a lot in the second.

Based solely on highlights which mean nothing, I really liked Rice and Tank Dell.

I have no idea if his career numbers will match, but when I watch his tape, I see a young Deandre Hopkins.

Feels good to hone in on a target and have them draft him.

Over the years here, it's become one of my favorite parts of the draft process. "This guy sucks, WASTED PICK!!" A lot of time followed up in a day or two with, "the more I see on this guy, the more I like the pick!!" LMAO

JFC, Jefferson, Hopkins, ...Rod Smith?! These comps are ridiculous. I sure hope Rice can live up to this, but come on, let's not get too crazy before we see him play. If he turns out to be what some of you are saying, this pick will be THE pick of the 2023 draft.

This definitely rules out Hopkins

2nd yr in a tow we drafted a small school WR

So you have the same taste in WR’s as Mahomes. Well done sir! :thumb:

I mean...generally when you are trying to explain to people the type of player a guy is you don't use dogshit unknown players as comparisons right? LMAO

ROFL

and then bumping the thread in 3 years to see all the horrifically awful takes LMAO

Ok, well, we took the kid at 55, not 5th overall.

None of these guys were perfect in this draft, other than maybe Smith-Nigba.

Every single other guy has flaws. Everybody wanted Hyatt, but he wasn't the burner that was advertised, and route running was suspect.

Rice is the better prospect. I saw it, said it like a month ago, and so did DJ.

So we win! Yay!

I'm kiddin' ya.

Go watch some video on the kid. He's a gamer! A quicker Juju? A more athletic Juju? I see a young Hopkins.

Rice was routinely mocked as a 2nd round talent. So, again. Not a reach. Crazy athleticism and very good size.

Mahomes works him out in Texas. Tells Veach, go get him. Unless Veach thinks he’s shit, you go get him.

I'm sure Veach requested the work out...

You think they traded up just because they were bored? They thought/knew he was going soon and went up to get him first. Not every team follows the rankings you do lol.

Yeah, and when I played pick-up basketball, I always modeled my game after Kobe.

I just started picking through the thread and am pretty damn surprised by the pushback. This guy is an ideal X here. Great ball skills, plays physical, very good in space, good quicks. He didn't time as well as I expected because I actually see strong downfield speed as well but admittedly that could be quality of competition.

Like, I'm not even beating my chest over this one because it just seems like a bit of a 'duh' pick to me. He's gonna he real good, IMO.

before anyone else is allowed to bitch, watch the highlight reels posted here in the OP. Then come back and tell me about how terrible this pick was.

No.

This kid was high on my list. I liked him and Mingo the most, probably. I wanted a little bigger body to counter the smaller Toney and Moore.

I was looking at Justin Jefferson's RAS just for shits and giggles. Very similar in size and measurables. Jefferson is a tad faster but Rice has bigger hands and better vertical/broad jump.

I think Mingo is a JJSS clone, only younger and a little stronger.

I like Rice, and I thought he or AT Perry would be a nice pick in the 3rd round. I am not sure how anyone would give him a mid 2nd round grade though.

I'm not sure why people get emotionally upset and use personal attacks on anyone who doesn't like a pick.



I'll say this I like this guy's vertical. If his toe affected his 40 maybe there's a bit of a steal.





...and Hyatt is still dropping.

You should just watch the Rice film vs Maryland because he's going against NFL CB's, Banks is an elite athlete.

They traded up get him so I'm assuming they weren't the only team interested.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You found out Quentin Johnston and Zay Flowers went and caught passes from Mahomes but didn&#39;t with Rashee Rice.</p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1652121592598544385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

go watch the tape, dude, and tell me you don't see Hopkins. Because if you DO watch, and you say you DON'T, you're full of shit.

I'm not saying he'll be as good, we have no idea. But watching that video, yeah, he looks a LOT like a young Hopkins.

Can he legally do that? Would that be “organizing” team activities?

Not that I give a shit about that rule, if it even exists.

In general not knocking on the pick. I get what you’re saying that he gives that contested catch and high point guy I’ve long wanted. I’m just saying the big difference right now is that Hopkins has super glue hands. And also DHop is an elite route runner. These sound line areas where rice needs a ton of work. He’s filling a lot more like a juju / Dwayne bowe hybrid to me. Which is probably fine especially where he was picked

2022: Skyy Moore vs. George Pickens
2023: Rashee Rice vs. Jalin Hyatt

Because you guys come in here and shit on the pick with stupid takes such as "Veach doesn't know how to draft WRs"....all because he didn't take the one you wanted.

When we drafted Bolton....I said I hated it. Why? Because I admittedly didn't watch a ton of tape on him. I ate my crow but I also didn't come in and ****ing yell at everyone like I knew more than they did.

Not the same considering that Hyatt hasn't even been drafted yet.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Chiefs WR Rashee Rice in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReceptionPerception?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ReceptionPerception</a>: <br><br>Inconsistent but he does show flashes. Had someone point out he played through injuries so keep that in mind before we flame him for this.<br><br>Guessing he is the Chiefs developmental X-receiver behind MVS.<a href="https://t.co/Z9nAVzHtjy">https://t.co/Z9nAVzHtjy</a> <a href="https://t.co/WNhPVoSqJ9">pic.twitter.com/WNhPVoSqJ9</a></p>&mdash; Matt Harmon (@MattHarmon_BYB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattHarmon_BYB/status/1652123081035620353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I like his height and vertical. Think what he can do in the Red Zone.

He's something between what Sammy Watkins was and what he was supposed to be.

The only real concern is route tree stuff. He's gonna have to refine his. But he has the physical tools to be worth the patience, IMO.

And when Moore and Rice go for 1,000 yards each someday, so will end the great WR wars of 2022-23 and we'll just elephant walk our way through the Arrowhead parking lot.

And there it is. It was an obvious smoke screen when those names trickled out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rashee Rice on joining the Chiefs: &quot;We&#39;re going to win another Super Bowl. There&#39;s no doubt about it.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1652120866308718594?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He is correct.

Mingo I see as AJ Brown.

Rice I see as Hopkins.

But everyone had him in the second round. Like everyone. This is not a reach. You can not like the pick, but it's only a reach if you can't figure out why Hyatt is still on the board.

Sure, but come on, this is over the top. If Rice's comps are these guys... OPY & HOF calibre, why in the hell did he fall that far? I mean damn, this kid is already our best receiver since Hill and hasn't even suited up yet. I sure HOPE he can be that guy, but this reaction screams hyperbole.

JuJu comps makes sense. JuJu++, even better (not outside of possiblity). ROD ****ing SMITH level? Jefferson & Hopkins level?! Damn. So why'd he not go top 10? Top 20? If he IS that guy, cast the statue of Bunt Varch N O W.

Veach with the draft jitisu.

IMO he plays like the guy that was opposite of Jefferson. I am getting serious Adam Thielen vibes off what I'm watching right now.

Yeah I didn't do any of that so maybe take a back seat for a bit Franchise you're usually a good poster but nobody is trying to ruin your good time

Nailed it. When we were a suck ass team I could understand draft night. Now being a proven winner I just don't get it.

And 32 other GMs.

I'd be just fine with that

He seems nice.

41" vert is impressive. I'm definitely seeing the Juju comparisons.

They learned from Hardman. The chemistry wasn't working 70% of the time he was here. Work those rookies out first

Your first posts were these.



Three posts shitting on Veach because he didn't take the guy you wanted. You only casually mentioned that he was a possession WR.

No, everyone did not haver him in the 2nd round. I could post more proof, but its not worth it.

I like the player, quite a bit actually, but it was a waste of draft capital to move up.

It is interesting we heard about flowers and Johnston but no rice

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-...ce-marvin-mims

Welp...NFL showed 3rd-4th round. Pack it up guys....we reached.

Chiefs needed a receiver. Chiefs drafted a receiver. And drafted a dawg. Still have our 3rd round pick. Two dawgs drafted so far.

i only said his measurables are basically the same as jefferson not that he comps to be the same player as him

I think it's worth noting Rice played a full season with Buechele at SMU. So, we had access to a some additional information on him. Add in the news from Lefkoe and I really like the pick.

He doesn't need you to defend his good name. Sometimes the picks aren't good. Sometimes I'm wrong. Sometimes you are.


The difference is I'm not calling you a reerun for it

Nah, those guys just didn’t fall to us and the opportunity wasn’t there to trade up.

We probably draft either if they’re there at 31.

So, gonna stick with my - "In Veach I trust!" He is the man and if he wants these players then by all means, I accept without issue. :thumb:

Keep on doing what you do BV!

I'll apologize....you just caught some spare flack because you were going with the same shit that oaklandhater was saying. He's a ****ing reerun. You aren't.

I didn't watch a single SMU football game and haven't watched Rice play before.

That said, the haters need to remember that Brett Veach can't beat off properly anymore due to the blisters from 2 SuperBowl rings in 3 years. In Veach I trust.

...and then, the best quarterback in the NFL, who also happens to be the captain of my favorite football team, the Kansas City Chiefs loves him? Bring it.

Pickens was a way better prospect than Hyatt is, Apples to Oranges.

All good, hope to hell he ends up being the guy.

Okay, everyone but one.

:D

No, he was not generally considered a third or fourth rounder. All of the mock databases had him in the second. I often tried to pick him at 63 and he was gone more often than not.

AT Perry? yeah, he's generally considered a third rounder.

Rice was in the grouping in the second round in everything I saw.

except Zeurlein, apparently.

And if they went and got him, they knew that, because Veach is not stupid.

Dont know shit about shit when it comes to a single player in the draft, but from the breakdown of struggling with drops and even in these highlight clips like half of the catches arent clean, is this guy going to be able to handle a Mahomes fastball?

Not interesting, intentional is the word you’re looking for.

They traded up for him because they had him pegged. First two picks have been pure money and both are day one contributors. Veach being Veach.

He worked out with him...so my guess would be yes.

You should have just stopped after agreeing with my post.

Really, who exactly should we be comparing players to if not well known NFL players?

This is exactly how everyone helps others understand what type of player you have. Nobody is crowning our new draft pick they are just comparing him.

You seem to be laboring under a weird assumption here.

And Mahomes told Veach to go get him after the workout. Veach went and got him. Reid had to sign off too.

I’ll trust those 3 over the CP posters saying he’s a flop.

One thing I really like from watching him right now is they have him out wide majority of the time. This guy is no stranger to having DBs at his hip regularly. In a way he's the anti Hyatt - faces contact regularly and even dare I say, thrives off it. Like he demoralizes DBs because he's making his catches in SPITE of them and their best efforts. Also, something no ones talking about is his YAC ability, boy can he make guys miss. I am definitely seeing the Sammy Watkins comps.

No, that’s a good point. Veach probably didn’t consider that and you should text him and let him know so he can dump him for a compensatory 3rd.

Canton will need to wait while he wins Superbowls for my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

He's a true 'X' receiver. On the line, wide, physical, tough kid. You don't have to line him up off the line to get him a release.

I'm telling you, you guys are going to love this kid.

ESPN analytics had him in the 3rd round too based on their algorithm. Again, I like the player, I just don't think we needed to give up anything to get him.

Hindsight is 20/20 and the next WR taken was Mims at 63. Was there a team that needed a WR and was only going to take Rice? Very unlikely.

worked out with Mahomes. Mahomes told Veach to go get him. You really think Mahomes is recommending a WR that can’t catch his balls? Really?

I am so looking forward to this timeline

I’ve decided that I’m going to ignore any negatives about this guy and just assume that he’s the next DeAndre Hopkins, because nothing would make me happier

Workout aint a game and Mahomes also wanted CEH. So...

It’s a draft that was littered with a ton of small guys who might have trouble playing outside the slot. We got one of the bigger and best alternatives to that. It makes all the sense in the world for what we’re looking to accomplish.

Then why didn’t anything about Rice trickle out? Just not a big enough name for the media to care?

man, it was a 4 and a 7 with a 6 returning. It's not like we gave up serious draft capital. He was the guy they wanted, so they went and got him. Isn't that what everyone complained about last year? That they didn't go get Pickens and instead sat and waited and took Moore?

I mean, I'm not sure that's a true narrative either, but it seems like Veach can't win with you guys. He went and got the guy they wanted. And we're complaining that the 4th and 7th with a 6th coming back was too much?