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Direckshun 09-07-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447195)
I mean, it's a big game, but in terms of season importance, I don't think it makes a whole huge deal.

Yeah, you wanna win at home etc. But you still get to go there and it's week 2.

Why I think the game is unusually important: I think winning that game puts the wind at the Chiefs' back as they face down an extremely difficult schedule. It gives them more margin for error, and of course gives you the opportunity to sweep them and force them to come to your house in January -- and we should assume we're going to see them in January.

Past seasons I didn't put a ton of worth on individual games with Mahomes because he's so damn good, you're going to make the playoffs no matter what, and soon as you're in, you're in as good a position as anyone no matter the seed.

I don't really think that's the case anymore now that the AFC has leveled up. Now it legitimately does matter who they play in that first round (assuming they don't get the 1 seed). You want an easy matchup there because you're going to have to play two of the Chargers/Bills/Bengals combo and it's going to be brutal. Get every advantage you can, it's not enough to simply get into the postseason to have the success you need.

O.city 09-07-2022 08:02 AM

We do this every year.

We have no clue who will be what at this point yet. An injury here, an underperformance there.

Like, are we sure the Bengals are making the playoffs this year? They had a flukey run last year and everyone wants to put them in this contender state. The Bills have been really good for a couple years. The defense is a bit older etc.

You just have no clue til the bullets start flying.

Give me the HOF coach and QB.

htismaqe 09-07-2022 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447223)
We do this every year.

We have no clue who will be what at this point yet. An injury here, an underperformance there.

Like, are we sure the Bengals are making the playoffs this year? They had a flukey run last year and everyone wants to put them in this contender state. The Bills have been really good for a couple years. The defense is a bit older etc.

You just have no clue til the bullets start flying.

Give me the HOF coach and QB.

After 7 weeks last season, this team had a losing record. They were one play away from a 3rd straight SB appearance.

O.city 09-07-2022 08:06 AM

I do think that game could be a little "Chiefs Denver 2015" in that a loss could be a bit mentally detrimental.

O.city 09-07-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16447231)
After 7 weeks last season, this team had a losing record. They were one play away from a 3rd straight SB appearance.

I'd prefer not to have to go on some win streak like we did again, but yes, the first month or so, is more of a feel it out kind of thing IMO.

htismaqe 09-07-2022 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447232)
I do think that game could be a little "Chiefs Denver 2015" in that a loss could be a bit mentally detrimental.

Not with Mahomes at QB.

O.city 09-07-2022 08:14 AM

Probably so htis, you're likely right.

I would just like to get off to a good start this year. If they get to the bye at 6-1 or 5-2, they're just absolutely in the drivers seat.

Direckshun 09-07-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447223)
We do this every year.

We have no clue who will be what at this point yet. An injury here, an underperformance there.

Like, are we sure the Bengals are making the playoffs this year? They had a flukey run last year and everyone wants to put them in this contender state. The Bills have been really good for a couple years. The defense is a bit older etc.

You just have no clue til the bullets start flying.

Give me the HOF coach and QB.

This is all fair, but Unnecessary Disclaimer #1. I'm just projecting, with all the limitations that entails.

Direckshun 09-07-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447232)
I do think that game could be a little "Chiefs Denver 2015" in that a loss could be a bit mentally detrimental.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16447238)
Not with Mahomes at QB.

Agreed.

But we have to acknowledge the Bengals did the exact same thing to us twice last year. They took our best punch in the first half, only to completely bewilder Mahomes and torch our D in the second half.

Mahomes has to prove he can beat a three man rush with a spy on him. It's one of the very few areas he has to prove.

I'll bet on him to do it, but I'm reticent.

htismaqe 09-07-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16447313)
This is all fair, but Unnecessary Disclaimer #1. I'm just projecting, with all the limitations that entails.

I love how you basically started your post with an unlimited get out of jail free card.

Own your opinions, stop being a pussy. :D

RunKC 09-07-2022 09:05 AM

Low key think that Colts game is gonna be a battle. One of the toughest games of the season.

It’s amazing that once Ballard actually got off his ass and became aggressive, his team now looks much better.

Direckshun 09-07-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16447319)
I love how you basically started your post with an unlimited get out of jail free card.

Own your opinions, stop being a pussy. :D

Honestly, I wrote up the OP, then thought to myself "what to do these jackwagons always complain about" and cut them off at the pass.

Happy to own my actual opinions. Clarifying that they're not absolute or infallible is part of them.

O.city 09-07-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16447322)
Low key think that Colts game is gonna be a battle. One of the toughest games of the season.

It’s amazing that once Ballard actually got off his ass and became aggressive, his team now looks much better.

Matt Ryan's corpse?

htismaqe 09-07-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447331)
Matt Ryan's corpse?

No shit.

Rivers, Wentz, and now Ryan.

That's the smell of desperation.

RunKC 09-07-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447331)
Matt Ryan's corpse?

Barely missed 4K yards last year with a terrible roster. He’s also got an elite RB to give the ball to and a good OL.

They don’t have to rely on him. He can be a game manager and do it well IMO

O.city 09-07-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16447339)
Barely missed 4K yards last year with a terrible roster. He’s also got an elite RB to give the ball to and a good OL.

They don’t have to rely on him. He can be a game manager and do it well IMO

In a 17 game season on a shit team where they were behind every week he didn't throw for 4k.

Nah.

He's at best Alex Smith 2015 in KC. Good roster, etc.

But we know that story.

htismaqe 09-07-2022 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16447339)
Barely missed 4K yards last year with a terrible roster. He’s also got an elite RB to give the ball to and a good OL.

They don’t have to rely on him. He can be a game manager and do it well IMO

Did you even watch the Chiefs prior to Mahomes?

RunKC 09-07-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16447405)
Did you even watch the Chiefs prior to Mahomes?

Chiefs had good teams before Mahomes. It’s a regular season game and they’ll be pumped to play us at home.

Still think it’s gonna be a battle. Doesn’t mean the Colts are some elite team tho

MarkDavis'Haircut 09-07-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447183)
I do agree that the Chargers are very formidable on paper.

But they're starting the year without Jc Jackson apparently for 2 division games.

They could very easily be 0-2 by next Friday with 2 division losses.

We will do our part.

You guys do yours.

And we will laugh together at the media crying for their pimply golden boy.

raybec 4 09-07-2022 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16447195)
I mean, it's a big game, but in terms of season importance, I don't think it makes a whole huge deal.

Yeah, you wanna win at home etc. But you still get to go there and it's week 2.

With the way the AFCW looks on paper this year, every division game is gold. They are all huge.

Wallcrawler 09-08-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16446923)
I have a ton of faith in the Chargers, yes. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about with what I said about the Broncos. Are you lying, seriously? It's a football message board. Get your act together.

As for the Chargers, where are we vastly superior to them, exactly? Herbert is fantastic, though he's not Mahomes he gets you most of the way there. Their run game and weapons are superior to ours. Their DL and secondary are superior.

We've got them at QB, we crush them at LB, and we've got a solid advantage at OL. This is a team that played us straight up last year and got better, albeit entirely on a short-term basis.

I think if you're going to build a team that has to beat the Chiefs, it looks an awful lot like this Chargers team.

Coaching must count for nothing with you then.

Brandon Staley, the ringleader of the Charger circus. The man who bans his kicker from playing in the game and contributing points.

The man who was in position as the LV Raiders were about to royally bitch up as they always do, and settle for a tie that would have sent both the Chargers and Raiders to the playoffs, takes a time out to stop that from happening, and allows the Raiders the time to find their little raisin balls, and go for the win to send the dumbest coach in the AFC West home with the loss.

The Chargers are all sizzle and no steak. With Staley coaching that team, they're going nowhere.

Dunerdr 09-08-2022 11:50 AM

I've opened this thread like 20 times and i just cant get through the OP. I appreciate direkshun and what he brings to this board, a Diet Shaggy Shane if you will, but i cant do it.

Wallcrawler 09-08-2022 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16449057)
I've opened this thread like 20 times and i just cant get through the OP. I appreciate direkshun and what he brings to this board, a Diet Shaggy Shane if you will, but i cant do it.

Basicly it's this.

Herp derp Chargers Chargers Chargers crown the Chargers derpa derpa derp derp.

Direckshun 09-08-2022 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16449057)
I've opened this thread like 20 times and i just cant get through the OP. I appreciate direkshun and what he brings to this board, a Diet Shaggy Shane if you will, but i cant do it.

The OP literally has a tl;dr at the bottom. But thanks regardless for the sentiment.

Direckshun 09-08-2022 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16449358)
Basicly it's this.

Herp derp Chargers Chargers Chargers crown the Chargers derpa derpa derp derp.

My goodness, what a swing and a miss.

Disagreeing with me is fine but the OP is virtually entirely about the Chiefs. I breakdown the areas I am concerned about and my Chargers mentions are in passing.

Direckshun 09-08-2022 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16448982)
Coaching must count for nothing with you then.

Brandon Staley, the ringleader of the Charger circus. The man who bans his kicker from playing in the game and contributing points.

The man who was in position as the LV Raiders were about to royally bitch up as they always do, and settle for a tie that would have sent both the Chargers and Raiders to the playoffs, takes a time out to stop that from happening, and allows the Raiders the time to find their little raisin balls, and go for the win to send the dumbest coach in the AFC West home with the loss.

The Chargers are all sizzle and no steak. With Staley coaching that team, they're going nowhere.

I like his hyperaggressive style, to be honest.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2022 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16444118)
The Chiefs have a major problem at DL which I fear is going to be their Achilles all season, and a brutal schedule that will take more losses from the team than perhaps this roster deserves.

I also have some comparably minor concerns: the rookie secondary, which I think will cost us games, and apparently all of these podcasts think we can replace Hill in the aggregate, whereas I'm not so sure.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk. Let's argue.

ROFLROFLROFL

TwistedChief 11-26-2022 12:48 PM

Direckshun vs Wallcrawler is CP’s version of John Wayne Gacy vs Jeffrey Dahmer in a steel cage match.

Bearcat 11-26-2022 12:51 PM

This was a weird one.... calling Chiefs podcasts "irresponsible" and they're high for predicting a 13-win season and SB appearance or victory, yet only backtracking to "they're good enough to be a 12-win team and make it to the AFCCG".


You guys are ****ing lunatics if you think Kelce is going to have a 1000 yard season! 990 yards is more realistic.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-26-2022 12:54 PM

Direction is the worst football poster on this board by a country mile. Absolutely pathetic

Pasta Little Brioni 11-26-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16449057)
I've opened this thread like 20 times and i just cant get through the OP. I appreciate direkshun and what he brings to this board, a Diet Soggy Shane if you will, but i cant do it.

ROFL

scho63 11-26-2022 12:55 PM

He is only wrong on 100% of his takes. That's spectacular.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 16444118)
We will not be a bottom 5 rush defense, but we could very realistically be a bottom third unit who Buffalo, Ravens, and Broncos run right over. And our passrush is going to be right where it was last year.

LMAO massive L

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The other big problem I have is out of the Chiefs control: the schedule is just brutal. We face a Chargers team that may very well be better than us, plus Tom Brady in the first four weeks. We play both of the Super Bowl contenders. We play everybody who was in the conference championship games. I would personally argue that the 2022 AFC West is the best division we've ever seen, even better than the 2021 NFC West initially looked and mostly was).
OUCH LMAOLMAO

RealSNR 11-26-2022 12:57 PM

With these LBs, as long as we have Chris Jones, we were always going to be fine at DL. Chris Jones is able to go hunting and not worry as much about what he leaves behind because of Bolton and Gay. Huge upgrade from Hitchens and Niemann. ****ing enormous.

What was the DL in the Super Bowl year? CJ and a bunch of meh dudes. What was it this year? CJ and meh dudes. The difference now is that Saunders has made a big leap, Danna is pretty good depth, and Karlaftis is continuing to improve each week. And with the exception of Saunders, I think this kind of production was easy to predict back in the offseason.

Nothing special, but certainly not a unit that would prevent us from winning anything significant.

Hammock Parties 11-26-2022 12:58 PM

mods, please change Direckshun's username to "nearly every Chiefs podcast"

Wallcrawler 11-26-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16627009)
Direckshun vs Wallcrawler is CP’s version of John Wayne Gacy vs Jeffrey Dahmer in a steel cage match.

Just Killin it today bro. Classy.

I'm sorry your regular season hero CJ disappears in the post season. Numbers don't lie.

I'm sorry your favorite head coach has a losing record in Championship games and superbowls.

Hey, maybe make another joke about my wife. Say something funny lumping a football fan with an opposing opinion in with a murdering ****ing piece of shit.

It'll change the numbers for your heroes from terrible, to legendary I'm sure.

Chris Meck 11-26-2022 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16627043)
Just Killin it today bro. Classy.

I'm sorry your regular season hero CJ disappears in the post season. Numbers don't lie.

I'm sorry your favorite head coach has a losing record in Championship games and superbowls.

Hey, maybe make another joke about my wife. Say something funny lumping a football fan with an opposing opinion in with a murdering ****ing piece of shit.

It'll change the numbers for your heroes from terrible, to legendary I'm sure.


You're so ridiculous.

DaFace 11-26-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16627043)
Just Killin it today bro. Classy.



I'm sorry your regular season hero CJ disappears in the post season. Numbers don't lie.



I'm sorry your favorite head coach has a losing record in Championship games and superbowls.



Hey, maybe make another joke about my wife. Say something funny lumping a football fan with an opposing opinion in with a murdering ****ing piece of shit.



It'll change the numbers for your heroes from terrible, to legendary I'm sure.

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TwistedChief 11-26-2022 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16627043)
Just Killin it today bro. Classy.

I'm sorry your regular season hero CJ disappears in the post season. Numbers don't lie.

I'm sorry your favorite head coach has a losing record in Championship games and superbowls.

Hey, maybe make another joke about my wife. Say something funny lumping a football fan with an opposing opinion in with a murdering ****ing piece of shit.

It'll change the numbers for your heroes from terrible, to legendary I'm sure.

Buddy, what’s going on with you? You’re so sensitive and I’m concerned.

Wallcrawler 11-26-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16627169)
Buddy, what’s going on with you? You’re so sensitive and I’m concerned.

The gun shakes in my right hand when I put it to my head, but not in my left.

It's wierd.

I'm not even left handed.

|Zach| 11-26-2022 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 16627043)
Just Killin it today bro. Classy.

I'm sorry your regular season hero CJ disappears in the post season. Numbers don't lie.

I'm sorry your favorite head coach has a losing record in Championship games and superbowls.

Hey, maybe make another joke about my wife. Say something funny lumping a football fan with an opposing opinion in with a murdering ****ing piece of shit.

It'll change the numbers for your heroes from terrible, to legendary I'm sure.

Get some fresh air

tyecopeland 11-26-2022 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16447577)
We will do our part.

You guys do yours.

And we will laugh together at the media crying for their pimply golden boy.

When are you going to do your part?


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