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UChieffyBugger 03-19-2022 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16200894)
Crazy that the Browns acquired a franchise QB without giving up any players and still have a lot of valuable picks for the 2022 draft.

Browns only gave up 1 pick this year and 2 next year. Cleveland will *STILL* have 5 picks in the first 118 draft picks this year, only 2 teams have more (NYJ, NYG), and they'll likely add more 2022 draft capital when they trade Baker Mayfield

Don't care because..."THE BROWNS, ARE, THE BROWNS"..Juju.

Oh..and that contract is gonna hurt em too.

LoneWolf 03-19-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16200847)
Maybe. I see this going more of the way Tyreek’s did. The law didn’t charge him already and there’s no video evidence of anything.

I just don’t see it happening

It was ultimately shown that Tyreek was falsely accused by crazy Crystal.

Watson did that shit. 22 accusations from different women is completely different than an accusation from a crazy girlfriend looking for a payday.

OnTheWarpath15 03-19-2022 07:57 AM

Just like their QB, the Browns didn't stop after being told no.

Kman34 03-19-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16201247)
Just like their QB, the Browns didn't stop after being told no.

Antonio Brown tweeted “Cleveland Antonio Brown”… They need to sign him for the :D

stevieray 03-19-2022 09:14 AM

Dude is a pig.

Money isn't going to change that.

Kiimo 03-19-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16200920)
Browns actually said they wanted an “Adult “ at QB. Wow

Maybe they meant tried as adults

RunKC 03-19-2022 09:29 AM

I can tell Chief fan doesn’t get out much or have the self awareness around the league bc teams look at us with the exact same intent we are looking at Watson bc we kept Tyreek.

Fair or not that’s the perception

Kiimo 03-19-2022 09:39 AM

Let me know when 21 other people than Crystal accuse Tyreek

TEX 03-19-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16201352)
I can tell Chief fan doesn’t get out much or have the self awareness around the league bc teams look at us with the exact same intent we are looking at Watson bc we kept Tyreek.

Fair or not that’s the perception

Naw, not as bad.

RunKC 03-19-2022 09:43 AM

Watson is getting flak for being a creepy pervert. Tyreek still to this day is known by opposing fans for beating a pregnant women and hurting his child whether that’s fair or not.

Yeah maybe just a little bit different

Red Dawg 03-19-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16201380)
Let me know when 21 other people than Crystal accuse Tyreek

She lied. That's a known fact from those that actually followed the story. National media is not included. They didn't get the facts. Sh also lied about the college incident as well.

Sure-Oz 03-19-2022 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16201390)
She lied. That's a known fact from those that actually followed the story. National media is not included. They didn't get the facts. Sh also lied about the college incident as well.

Did she lie on both occasions? I don't remember the college part being a lie or not. I remember hearing he just agreed to stuff cause he didn't know what else to do.

R8RFAN 03-19-2022 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16201389)
Watson is getting flak for being a creepy pervert. Tyreek still to this day is known by opposing fans for beating a pregnant women and hurting his child whether that’s fair or not.

Yeah maybe just a little bit different

Another thing about that is that incident cost Hill alot of money but Watson lost no money and I can't see how he would have gotten more if his case never happened

Halfcan 03-19-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16201352)
I can tell Chief fan doesn’t get out much or have the self awareness around the league bc teams look at us with the exact same intent we are looking at Watson bc we kept Tyreek.

Fair or not that’s the perception

Why should we care about the perception or lack thereof from idiot fans of other teams?

Reek never broke his kid's arm or beat a pregnant woman. Anyone that is repeating those lies are not worth acknowledging.

BleedingRed 03-19-2022 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16201458)
Did she lie on both occasions? I don't remember the college part being a lie or not. I remember hearing he just agreed to stuff cause he didn't know what else to do.

Yes it was confirmed in the secret audio she had of Tyreek. When he thought it was just the two talking he called her out for doing the same shit before. It would stand to reason that he had no reason to lie.

Black poor kid knocks up fine (but crazy) piece of ass in Oklahoma…. Yeah she knew she didn’t have to lie much.

Chiefshrink 03-19-2022 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16199997)
Yea but we are talking about Deshaun Watson.

Watson is Dak of the AFC. He will have continuous flashing all through his career 'but' will never win big when needed IMHO.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-19-2022 02:13 PM

Same...old...sorry....ass...Browns

carcosa 03-19-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16201879)
Watson is Dak of the AFC. He will have continuous flashing all through his career 'but' will never win big when needed IMHO.

'but'

Chiefshrink 03-19-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16201458)
Did she lie on both occasions? I don't remember the college part being a lie or not. I remember hearing he just agreed to stuff cause he didn't know what else to do.

IMHO I think Crystal made up the "beating of her when pregnant", she wins the "he said, she said" simply on ugly accusations of appearances alone. Reek knows that now he 'must concede' just to get a shot in the NFL because at this point he knows he is an "unknown commodity" at this point and if he fights it, it makes him look more guilty and the NFL won't touch him. He realizes he must confess to something he did not do.

I really do believe that when Reek met with Goodell behind closed doors he told the "whole CONTEXT" of his relationship with Crystal from day 1 explaining her crazy borderline psychotic behavior with hard evidence from his college days and then providing more hard evidence when the child abuse accusation came into play.

Explaining to Goodell in 'full context' of how he falsely confessed to a crime he did not commit so that he could get a chance in the NFL and how now this supposed child abuse accusation is just "the same song 2nd verse with this crazy woman" and then providing "hard evidence" in both scenarios backing his statement.

InChiefsHeaven 03-19-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16201955)
IMHO I think Crystal made up the "beating of her when pregnant", she wins the "he said, she said" simply on ugly accusations of appearances alone. Reek knows that now he 'must concede' just to get a shot in the NFL because at this point he knows he is an "unknown commodity" at this point and if he fights it, it makes him look more guilty and the NFL won't touch him. He realizes he must confess to something he did not do.

I really do believe that when Reek met with Goodell behind closed doors he told the "whole CONTEXT" of his relationship with Crystal from day 1 explaining her crazy borderline psychotic behavior with hard evidence from his college days and then providing more hard evidence when the child abuse accusation came into play.

Explaining to Goodell in 'full context' of how he falsely confessed to a crime he did not commit so that he could get a chance in the NFL and how now this supposed child abuse accusation is just "the same song 2nd verse with this crazy woman" and then providing "hard evidence" in both scenarios backing his statement.

To me it was quite simple. If he had really beaten his preggo girlfriend, he would not have gotten a plea deal that was so light as to be laughable for a guy who actually did what they say he did. He got probation and anger management. He got cut from his team and played at some Ju Co just so he could have a chance at the NFL...he also STAYED with her, or rather, she STAYED with him in SPITE of the "fact" that he beat her. The whole thing looked to me like poor black kid in college basically says what he has to in order to have a life...and he stayed with his baby mama even after this accusation.

THEN...he gets picked by the Chiefs and becomes the ****ing Cheetah...meanwhile, Crystal is still Crystal, and he's probably just about had it with her. Then the broken arm happens (which was not at all anything to do with him) and they fight and she records this conversation which was heavily edited by the asshole media in KC and the rest of the country...then he's investigated by 2 females from the NFL and they didn't even suspend him...if people paid any attention to this case they would know that this guy did nothing wrong except try to make things work with his crazy ass baby mama.

Lastly...he got custody of his kids. That's the kicker. No way an abuser in the spotlight like him gets the kids. AND...Crystal is nowhere to be found...and on and on.

Cheetah's good. When he retires, it'll make an amazing 30 for 30 or even a documentary.

carcosa 03-19-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16202253)

Cheetah's good. When he retires, it'll make an amazing 30 for 30 or even a documentary.

Or even a nonfiction narrative film!!!!

BossChief 03-19-2022 04:07 PM

Lots of teams kept hitting the “increase offer” button till everyone’s button broke but Cleveland’s.

I’d LOVE to hear a full rundown story from the Texans GM on what each team was offering and how the offer got as high as it did in both draft picks snd contract.

rabblerouser 03-19-2022 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16202253)
To me it was quite simple. If he had really beaten his preggo girlfriend, he would not have gotten a plea deal that was so light as to be laughable for a guy who actually did what they say he did. He got probation and anger management. He got cut from his team and played at some Ju Co just so he could have a chance at the NFL...he also STAYED with her, or rather, she STAYED with him in SPITE of the "fact" that he beat her. The whole thing looked to me like poor black kid in college basically says what he has to in order to have a life...and he stayed with his baby mama even after this accusation.

THEN...he gets picked by the Chiefs and becomes the ****ing Cheetah...meanwhile, Crystal is still Crystal, and he's probably just about had it with her. Then the broken arm happens (which was not at all anything to do with him) and they fight and she records this conversation which was heavily edited by the asshole media in KC and the rest of the country...then he's investigated by 2 females from the NFL and they didn't even suspend him...if people paid any attention to this case they would know that this guy did nothing wrong except try to make things work with his crazy ass baby mama.

Lastly...he got custody of his kids. That's the kicker. No way an abuser in the spotlight like him gets the kids. AND...Crystal is nowhere to be found...and on and on.

Cheetah's good. When he retires, it'll make an amazing 30 for 30 or even a documentary.

HE GOOD.

HE SO GOOD...HE GOOO AF.

RealSNR 03-19-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16201955)
IMHO I think Crystal made up the "beating of her when pregnant", she wins the "he said, she said" simply on ugly accusations of appearances alone. Reek knows that now he 'must concede' just to get a shot in the NFL because at this point he knows he is an "unknown commodity" at this point and if he fights it, it makes him look more guilty and the NFL won't touch him. He realizes he must confess to something he did not do.

I really do believe that when Reek met with Goodell behind closed doors he told the "whole CONTEXT" of his relationship with Crystal from day 1 explaining her crazy borderline psychotic behavior with hard evidence from his college days and then providing more hard evidence when the child abuse accusation came into play.

Explaining to Goodell in 'full context' of how he falsely confessed to a crime he did not commit so that he could get a chance in the NFL and how now this supposed child abuse accusation is just "the same song 2nd verse with this crazy woman" and then providing "hard evidence" in both scenarios backing his statement.

Did anybody ever teach you proper use of quotation marks, or are you just reeruned?

BossChief 03-19-2022 04:20 PM

All in all, I’m kinda surprised the Steelers didn’t end up being the team that traded for him. The need was there and they don’t care about sexual assault accusations.

Mile High Mania 03-19-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16202321)
All in all, I’m kinda surprised the Steelers didn’t end up being the team that traded for him. The need was there and they don’t care about sexual assault accusations.

The Steelers never do stuff like that… ever, it’s why they’ve been so consistent for so long.

Chiefshrink 03-19-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHeaven (Post 16202253)
To me it was quite simple. If he had really beaten his preggo girlfriend, he would not have gotten a plea deal that was so light as to be laughable for a guy who actually did what they say he did. He got probation and anger management. He got cut from his team and played at some Ju Co just so he could have a chance at the NFL...he also STAYED with her, or rather, she STAYED with him in SPITE of the "fact" that he beat her. The whole thing looked to me like poor black kid in college basically says what he has to in order to have a life...and he stayed with his baby mama even after this accusation.

THEN...he gets picked by the Chiefs and becomes the ****ing Cheetah...meanwhile, Crystal is still Crystal, and he's probably just about had it with her. Then the broken arm happens (which was not at all anything to do with him) and they fight and she records this conversation which was heavily edited by the asshole media in KC and the rest of the country...then he's investigated by 2 females from the NFL and they didn't even suspend him...if people paid any attention to this case they would know that this guy did nothing wrong except try to make things work with his crazy ass baby mama.

Lastly...he got custody of his kids. That's the kicker. No way an abuser in the spotlight like him gets the kids. AND...Crystal is nowhere to be found...and on and on.

Cheetah's good. When he retires, it'll make an amazing 30 for 30 or even a documentary.

Totally agree !!

Chiefshrink 03-19-2022 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16202320)
Did anybody ever teach you proper use of quotation marks, or are you just reeruned?

Anybody ever teach you about embracing humility?

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-19-2022 09:01 PM

Mitchell Schwartz not happy!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Watson trade and contract still doesn&#39;t feel right to me. Do we have any clarity on the 22 lawsuits against him? From what I&#39;ve seen, by <a href="https://twitter.com/bylindsayhjones?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bylindsayhjones</a> + <a href="https://twitter.com/JennyVrentas?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JennyVrentas</a> + <a href="https://twitter.com/minakimes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@minakimes</a> especially, the grand jury non-indictment doesn&#39;t mean much, and surely doesn&#39;t absolve him.</p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1505162101291106311?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 03-19-2022 09:12 PM

The Browns even protected him, his base salary in year 1 is 1 million dollars so if he gets suspended he loses almost nothing.

The_Doctor10 03-19-2022 09:47 PM

Big Ben set the precedent - a star QB gets one free sexual assault, and everything after that is 6 games that get reduced to 4 on a appeal.

So Deshawn can get the same deal - the first massage therapist doesn’t count, 4 games for each of the other 21.

It’d allow him to come back with 1 game before free agency to show he’s still got it, and the Browns would’ve spent a quarter billion dollars for nothing.

Everybody wins.

rabblerouser 03-19-2022 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16202335)
The Steelers never do stuff like that… ever, it’s why they’ve been so consistent for so long.

Steelers have had like 16 head coaches since 1933. They've had 3 coaches since 1969.

The Jaguars, who entered the league in 1995, have had 9 head coaches. Shit, they may have had 4 owners in team history already.

Tribal Warfare 03-19-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 16202679)

The Jaguars, who entered the league in 1995, have had 9 head coaches. Shit, they may have had 4 owners in team history already.

If Khan had his way he'd move the team to London

Stryker 03-20-2022 12:09 AM

Can we all agree this is the WORST move ever in NFL history? I mean worst than Ditka for Ricky Williams? LMAO! Deshaun Watson for:

first-round picks in 2022, 2023, and 2024 along with a 2023 third-rounder and a 2024 fourth-round selection

The Browns just pissed away the next 4 years for a player who did not play in 2021 and still has 22 civil court allegations against him PLUS whatever the NFL suspends him for! Actually, I love it! Prayers for Baker to go to the Colts or any other QB needy team. LMAO

RealSNR 03-20-2022 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16202566)
Anybody ever teach you about embracing humility?

I asked you first

Nickhead 03-20-2022 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16202712)
Can we all agree this is the WORST move ever in NFL history? I mean worst than Ditka for Ricky Williams? LMAO! Deshaun Watson for:

first-round picks in 2022, 2023, and 2024 along with a 2023 third-rounder and a 2024 fourth-round selection

The Browns just pissed away the next 4 years for a player who did not play in 2021 and still has 22 civil court allegations against him PLUS whatever the NFL suspends him for! Actually, I love it! Prayers for Baker to go to the Colts or any other QB needy team. LMAO

i am waiting on the league to drag their feet and make the suspension occur in 2023 ROFL

Sassy Squatch 03-20-2022 04:20 AM

Only reason it hasnt happened already is the Texans were content to let him sit out.

TimeForWasp 03-20-2022 08:17 AM

22 charges of sexual misconduct of some kind or other. Anyone want to bet it won't happen again???

sully1983 03-20-2022 09:14 AM

Its fitting that the Cleveland's NFL team is named the Browns (which is the same color as a massive shit of poop) ROFL jfc talk about getting taken to the cleaners with that historically awful trade.LMAO

Hoopsdoc 03-20-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16202712)
Can we all agree this is the WORST move ever in NFL history? I mean worst than Ditka for Ricky Williams? LMAO! Deshaun Watson for:

first-round picks in 2022, 2023, and 2024 along with a 2023 third-rounder and a 2024 fourth-round selection

The Browns just pissed away the next 4 years for a player who did not play in 2021 and still has 22 civil court allegations against him PLUS whatever the NFL suspends him for! Actually, I love it! Prayers for Baker to go to the Colts or any other QB needy team. LMAO

I’m not sure the Colts actually want Baker. One would think it would have happened by now. Cleveland has to be pretty anxious to get rid of him and move on.

Hoopsdoc 03-20-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16201879)
Watson is Dak of the AFC. He will have continuous flashing all through his career 'but' will never win big when needed IMHO.

Watson is pretty overrated. He’s good but he’s not great.

NEOM 03-20-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 16202889)
Watson is pretty overrated. He’s good but he’s not great.

I’m amazed that former players, who are analysts or experts now, e.g. Orlovsky see this guy on the same level like Mahomes or Rodgers. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who two seasons ago said that no other QB in the league is as good as Mahomes. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who in December 2021 said that Rodgers is the best QB in the league. Again I’m amazed how these so called experts and analysts change their opinions, just like mothers changing the diapers of their babies.

Mecca 03-20-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16199922)
Seahawks... Panthers, Saints, Falcons... Giants?

I don't see the Giants, Daniel Jones has a very similar career trajectory, I dunno why you trade for someone else's highly drafted underachieving QB when you already have one of your own.

Mecca 03-20-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 16203010)
I’m amazed that former players, who are analysts or experts now, e.g. Orlovsky see this guy on the same level like Mahomes or Rodgers. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who two seasons ago said that no other QB in the league is as good as Mahomes. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who in December 2021 said that Rodgers is the best QB in the league. Again I’m amazed how these so called experts and analysts change their opinions, just like mothers changing the diapers of their babies.

They're on TV, it's good for ratings to sell that all these guys are on the same level.

Hoopsdoc 03-20-2022 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 16203010)
I’m amazed that former players, who are analysts or experts now, e.g. Orlovsky see this guy on the same level like Mahomes or Rodgers. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who two seasons ago said that no other QB in the league is as good as Mahomes. Wasn’t Orlovsky the guy, who in December 2021 said that Rodgers is the best QB in the league. Again I’m amazed how these so called experts and analysts change their opinions, just like mothers changing the diapers of their babies.

Watson is good at making something out of nothing. He’s good at the spectacular play. He’s not as good at making the ordinary play, if that makes sense.

He’ll spin out of a sack on 3rd down and rifle it in for a first down and then miss an easy throw on the very next play.

I guess inconsistent is what I would call him. He’s always been that way.

DRM08 03-20-2022 11:32 AM

Cap hits are $10M for 2022 and then $55M per year starting in 2023.

NWTF 03-20-2022 01:11 PM

Im surprised he chose the Browns. Money talks of course but I thought he originally wanted out of Houston to go to a winning, better ran organization. So much for that. In the end he didnt have any winning organizations chasing after him.

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-20-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 16203151)
Im surprised he chose the Browns. Money talks of course but I thought he originally wanted out of Houston to go to a winning, better ran organization. So much for that. In the end he didnt have any winning organizations chasing after him.

$230 million guaranteed reasons.

The Franchise 03-20-2022 01:18 PM

The Browns don’t care about the negative looks they’re getting. They saw every other team in the AFC pulling away and they knew that Baker wasn’t getting them anywhere. So they outbid every one else and still won’t win shit.

DRM08 03-20-2022 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16203158)
The Browns don’t care about the negative looks they’re getting. They saw every other team in the AFC pulling away and they knew that Baker wasn’t getting them anywhere. So they outbid every one else and still won’t win shit.

Kareem Hunt

staylor26 03-21-2022 04:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As it turns out, the compensation on the blockbuster trade has changed: Browns now are giving up six draft picks for Deshaun Watson; also instead of giving up a 2024 5th-round pick, it’s now a 2024 6th-round pick, per today’s wire. <a href="https://t.co/Y98WFPmYeE">pic.twitter.com/Y98WFPmYeE</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1506029005601918986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official Trade Terms:<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> get:<br>Deshaun Watson<br>2024 6th-rd pick<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a> get:<br>2022 1st-rd pick<br>2023 1st-rd pick<br>2024 1st-rd pick<br>2023 3rd-rd pick<br>2022 4th-rd pick<br>2024 4th-rd pick<a href="https://t.co/EgdtMN2Kze">https://t.co/EgdtMN2Kze</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fgm04wtvN6">pic.twitter.com/Fgm04wtvN6</a></p>&mdash; NFLTradeRumors.co (@nfltrade_rumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/status/1506030460467654656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-21-2022 04:41 PM

That’s a lot to give up for someone who likes to have his butt fingered.

TEX 03-21-2022 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16204913)
That’s a lot to give up for someone who likes to have his butt fingered.

Yes and no. They're going to be near the end of each round. I'd do it for a QB like that. I actually thought the Texans would get more by way of proven talent, in addition to all those picks.

staylor26 03-21-2022 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16204922)
Yes and no. They're going to be near the end of each round. I'd do it for a QB like that. I actually thought the Texans would get more by way of proven talent, in addition to all those picks.

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. With the AFC as stacked as it is, I don’t think this is a guarantee at all.

Also, there’s still the possibility of a significant suspension.

PattyFlakes 03-21-2022 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16204922)
Yes and no. They're going to be near the end of each round. I'd do it for a QB like that. I actually thought the Texans would get more by way of proven talent, in addition to all those picks.

Them being at the top of a loaded AFC is no given, especially in a tough division like the AFC North.

TEX 03-21-2022 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16204923)
I wouldn’t be so sure of that. With the AFC as stacked as it is, I don’t think this is a guarantee at all.

Also, there’s still the possibility of a significant suspension.

Yes, maybe so. Especially for the 2023 draft. But he is a legit franchise QB and they have a stacked roster on both sides of the ball. Once he can play, they may not be picking number 32, but I think they'll be picking somewhere from 24 on down. The length of the suspension is key IMO.

TEX 03-21-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PattyFlakes (Post 16204928)
Them being at the top of a loaded AFC is no given, especially in a tough division like the AFC North.

I get that, but IMO he makes them uber talented. I think the suspension is going to be more of a factor because talent wise, they are up there. That division is not all that tough. Balt and Pitt are not that good.

KChiefs1 03-21-2022 05:03 PM

I like that the Colts got Ryan. Every division needs to be tough.

Buffalo might have a bye already wrapped up though.


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Mile High Mania 03-21-2022 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16204922)
Yes and no. They're going to be near the end of each round. I'd do it for a QB like that. I actually thought the Texans would get more by way of proven talent, in addition to all those picks.

Well, I doubt that would be your stance had Denver made that move.

staylor26 03-21-2022 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16204947)
I like that the Colts got Ryan. Every division needs to be tough.

Buffalo might have a bye already wrapped up though.


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LMAO

I have no issue with somebody saying the Bills are the favorites for the 1 seed, but considering it’s ****ing March, “wrapped up” is hilarious.

Chiefshrink 03-21-2022 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 16202889)
Watson is pretty overrated. He’s good but he’s not great.

Thoroughly agree.

Rainbarrel 03-21-2022 07:26 PM

Now that he has joined the pound. He just has to smear peanut butter on his starfish.

Marcellus 03-21-2022 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16205065)
Well, I doubt that would be your stance had Denver made that move.

Well to be fair almost nobody thinks that with Cleveland. They way overpaid IMO. Makes the trade for Wilson look like peanuts.

FloridaMan88 03-21-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NWTF (Post 16203151)
Im surprised he chose the Browns. Money talks of course but I thought he originally wanted out of Houston to go to a winning, better ran organization. So much for that. In the end he didnt have any winning organizations chasing after him.

Browns have the most talented roster compared to the other teams rumored to be in the hunt for him.

The Saints would be a close second, but Stefanski > Dennis Allen.

TEX 03-22-2022 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 16205065)
Well, I doubt that would be your stance had Denver made that move.

Not following you at all here. Last I checked, Denver gave up proven talent, in addition to draft picks, in the trade for Wilson.

NEOM 03-22-2022 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16205291)
Browns have the most talented roster compared to the other teams rumored to be in the hunt for him.

The Saints would be a close second, but Stefanski > Dennis Allen.

The thing is, the AFC is loaded and only reaching the SB will in anyway make up for this trade. If the Browns fail constantly over the next years, and winning couple playoff games won’t cut it, this will be seen as a failure, especially given the surroundings of Watson.

InChiefsHeaven 03-22-2022 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16202277)
Or even a nonfiction narrative film!!!!

In the dictionary under "redundant" it says "see redundant"...:D

TEX 03-22-2022 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOM (Post 16205461)
The thing is, the AFC is loaded and only reaching the SB will in anyway make up for this trade. If the Browns fail constantly over the next years, and winning couple playoff games won’t cut it, this will be seen as a failure, especially given the surroundings of Watson.

Not really IMO. Because they'll have a shot every year now. Before they wouldn't have.

htismaqe 03-22-2022 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 16205472)
Not really IMO. Because they'll have a shot every year now. Before they wouldn't have.

Cleveland has a top-tier roster. All they needed was the QB.

I have to agree with NEOM - if they don't get to the Super Bowl with Watson, it's a failure.

Capt_Von_Trapp 03-24-2022 11:24 AM

Ouch


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Fox 8 I-Team has learned a second grand jury in another Texas county has convened to hear evidence against quarterback Deshaun Watson. <a href="https://t.co/IV9qlkJqHj">https://t.co/IV9qlkJqHj</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/edgallekfox8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@edgallekfox8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PeggyGallek?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PeggyGallek</a></p>&mdash; fox8news (@fox8news) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox8news/status/1507018915490238465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mile High Mania 03-24-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16205474)
Cleveland has a top-tier roster. All they needed was the QB.

I have to agree with NEOM - if they don't get to the Super Bowl with Watson, it's a failure.

Considering the price they are paying in picks and salary... hell yeah it would be a failure.

wazu 03-24-2022 11:51 AM

So what if this "new" grand jury thing becomes an actual indictment. Trade is a done deal now. Picks belong to Houston. And it also didn't sound like Cleveland put anything in the contract to protect themselves regarding salary.

gblowfish 03-24-2022 11:53 AM

Browns are death to any QB. It's a factory of sadness.

gblowfish 03-24-2022 11:55 AM

Hope Cleveland hires some 20 year old chick to be Watson's personal ball washer.
(Careful, language...Lewis Black...duh!)

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Eureka 03-24-2022 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16201352)
I can tell Chief fan doesn’t get out much or have the self awareness around the league bc teams look at us with the exact same intent we are looking at Watson bc we kept Tyreek.

Fair or not that’s the perception

Well they kept him only for a few years. :evil:

Just goes to show most only read headlines or the first time reported and then make a judgement that sticks with them. Follow up be damned.

KChiefs1 03-25-2022 11:17 AM

His press conference is making him sweat.

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Capt_Von_Trapp 03-25-2022 11:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson to reporters in Cleveland: “I understand these allegations are serious. I never assaulted any woman. I&#39;ve never disrespected any woman. I was raised to be genuine and to respect everyone around me….<br><br>“I’ve never done the things that these people are alleging.”</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1507406513584934914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

scho63 03-25-2022 11:56 AM

This is Browns QB #16 or 17 in the last 25 years.

Talk about fail.

Chiefshrink 03-25-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt_Von_Trapp (Post 16212196)
Ouch


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Fox 8 I-Team has learned a second grand jury in another Texas county has convened to hear evidence against quarterback Deshaun Watson. <a href="https://t.co/IV9qlkJqHj">https://t.co/IV9qlkJqHj</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/edgallekfox8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@edgallekfox8</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/PeggyGallek?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PeggyGallek</a></p>&mdash; fox8news (@fox8news) <a href="https://twitter.com/fox8news/status/1507018915490238465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's all taken care of is my guess because no way the Browns sign him IF he is still hot garbage IMHO.

RunKC 03-25-2022 01:09 PM

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Deshaun Watson: &#39;I&#39;ve always been hands on in the community of Houston.&#39;</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1507404310149279745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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