Damn..that's like 3 1st and 3 2nds for a declining QB. Seattle rapied them.

man denver got absolutely raped LMAO

Hate losing him, but he is replaceable.

Seattle's plan is probably to build that defense back up again and grind out games. Go get a QB in next years draft since you'll have two first round picks and two second round picks to trade.

You would say that with any deal.

#ThePatonPlan

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Blockbuster: After weeks of negotiations, in one of the largest trades in NFL history, the Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos have agreed to terms for a deal involving Super-Bowl winning QB Russell Wilson, sources tell ESPN.<br><br>Trade is pending a physical and Wilson’s approval. <a href="https://t.co/oRFDV8Ehyx">pic.twitter.com/oRFDV8Ehyx</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1501266969944858630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm good with this. Will make it more fun when we beat the donkeys.

Division should be a little more interesting but I'm not afraid of Wilson at all.

Raped? Nah...not really. Nobody got fleeced here except maybe Seattle a little. Lock is garbage. Shelby Harris is 30. Fant is probably the best player in the deal and he hasn't shown that he's game changing.

Seattle pushed their shit in on that trade.
Fant is a bigger piece than I expected.
Wilson is a good qb but damn.

Seattle could trade for Love maybe.

#ThaPatonPlan = overpaying for option B because you have no choice

He sure has kept the Rams, Cardinals, and 49ers from success!

Or Hurts if the Eagles aren't sold on him.

Russell Wilson isn't elite anymore but he's still pretty good, far better than garbage they've had at QB the past couple seasons. It's worth the risk.

You guys are just hating because he went to Broncos.

Denver signing Manning then backing into a SB win may be the best thing to ever happen to the AFCW as they try to replicate that over and over again but using trade capital this time instead.

They aren't LA this isn't winning them shit any time soon.

They let Russ Cook and he became a turnover machine. They sat his ass down in the kitchen, he cried over it again and now here we are.

I was willing to give up three #1's for Big Russ, so this is a steal to me.

He's 5 years younger than Rodgers.

I don't think Wilson was ever going to sniff a ring again in Seattle, so why not try the old QBs home in Denver. With that stockpile of picks and players, Seattle has some ammo to compeete in the NFC West.

LMAO

It definitely moves the needle for their offense but their defense is going to take a step back this year.

This really forces Denver into win now mode, but man I believe in Russell Wilson. I think he's a stud. He throws the most beautiful deep ball in the game. At only 33 years old, he's got another 5-6 years left in him if they are lucky.

We may win the West with 7 losses...

To say he's better than any QB they've had since Manning retired is a low bar.

And the big story is they wanted Aaron Rodgers... hired their HC because of the Aaron Rodgers connection and struck out trying to get their #1 choice.

Yeah, Elway's predictable. :D

People said this same exact shit about Matt Stafford last year. Where’s the Stafford trade thread? I bet I can find staylor saying that shit in there LMAO

Huh?

Next year's 1st is worth a 2nd this year. Next year's 2nd is worth a 3rd this year.

So it's like a 1st, two 2nds, and a 3rd in terms of pure draft compensation. Harris could probably be traded for a 3rd rounder (maybe) as a 30 year old DL w/ a $7.5 millionish cap hit. Fant could probably get you another 2nd. Lock is maybe worth a 5th.

In terms of straight draft comp I'd say the Seahawks got a 1st, three 2nds, two 3rds and a 3rd day flyer.

I think the Seahawks needed a 3rd this year and Dre'Mont Jones in this deal. If anything the return was a little light. Yeah, Russ is down from what he was, but he's still very good and that contract is a hell of an asset in its own right given that the signing bonus is on Seattle's cap.

So Denver can either use those years to build an extension or they can convert his base this year into bonus (he won't care) and essentially have him on asswipe money against the cap this season.

The flexibility built into that contract is worth a ton on its own.

#ThePatonPlan was Aaron Rodgers . . . . . . remember?

I do, because you spent weeks telling us all about it and sharing tweets of every little thing you could find involving Rodgers. It was like a school girl crush.

You won't be as good this year with Wilson as you would have been with Rodgers. That said, I think Wilson is probably the better play long term.

But man did you guys give up a high price to get him!

At least our games will be fun again . . . . .

Broncos fans getting excited like they're not gonna finish 3rd in the division, very cute

Good move. QB is the most important position in football and they instantly improve by orders of magnitude.

MAN they gave up a lot for it tho. Whooooo boy.

Yup.

They're really gonna miss Shelby Harris on the inside.

Not sure how we overcome those 220 yards a game passing.

I was referring more to Fangio leaving.

I had no problem with the Stafford trade and I have no problem with this trade.

Russell Wilson is still nowhere near Rodgers at this point.

Also, the Rams needed Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey, Von Miller, etc. to make that work.

That too.

But make no mistake, Harris is a big loss for them.

Broncos still have the worst QB in the division but Mahomes, Herbert, Carr, Wilson is ****ing ridiculous for one divisions QBs

Naw, IMO Wilson > Carr.

The trade is probably pretty fair and this is the rate for relatively top tier QBs.

The question is do some of Wilson's stumbles this last season imply he's on the decline or will he be able to thrive with a much more balanced Denver team?

Unfortunately I lean toward the latter. Competent QB play from the Broncos isn't something we've seen from them in forever. And with Williams in the backfield, solid receivers, and a good defense, I don't think this should be celebrated by Chiefs fans.

Pretty sure we weren't winning that late season game in Denver had it been Wilson behind center instead of Lock.

If they don't make the playoffs each of the next 2 years (which is entirely possible with the QBs ahead of him in this division) this trade is a MASSIVE FAIL with what they gave up.

All that for 2 years. I can't imagine Wilson won't test the market

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In summary, the broncos traded away more than twice as much for 33 year-old Russell Wilson than the Chiefs traded for a rookie Patrick Mahomes II.

Russell Wilson is certainly an improvement but by no means as much as Denver thinks!

ROFL

Seems like we've had some real stinkers against Denver the past few years. It would be hilarious if Wilson immediately drops off this year. Denver would be sunk for years.

This^^ They better be in win now mode.
I think this definitely helps Denver short term, but losing those draft picks is going to hurt long term. (I know - but Rams..... blah blah)
New unproven coach, huge player turnover, looming new ownership, etc.
This is a giant crap-shoot at this point. Ballsy move IMO.

Seattle gave up 2 1’s for Adams and only got 2 back for Wilson….hilarious…

I would take Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers 10/10 times today. He’s 5 years younger, more mobile and cares about football.

Rodgers has had everything handed to him. Very good football teams, good drafting, good coaching and he’s has still ****ed it up time and time again.

Wilson played for a GM who completely forgot how to draft after 2015, a coach whose offensive philosophy is from the Jurassic Period and and poorly talented roster at OL and defense.

Rodgers lived in paradise and lost to Jimmy ****ing G at home. Russ was living in hell.

No doubt. May be the best QB division ever. Two greats in one division is rare; all four of these guys (Carr on bubble) are legit stars.

Meh, I still think KC sleep walks through the Denver games. Maybe this will cause then to focus better.

Wow a fair well reasoned thought out post. Well done

Good for them, we'll see if it's enough to stop #14 &#15 in a row.

Dumb.

Age is the only reason that Wilson is better long term. Short term it’s Rodgers and it’s not even remotely close.

Is there a way to bet the "over" on the number of Garrett Bolles holding penalties this year?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, following the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahawks</a> trading Russell Wilson to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Broncos?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Broncos</a>, they are also open for business on wide receiver Tyler Lockett. With plenty of teams needing WR help, he&#39;s a name to keep a close eye on.</p>&mdash; Evan Massey (@massey_evan) <a href="https://twitter.com/massey_evan/status/1501278924352802818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oof.

Good drafting? ROFL

The Packers have repeatedly not given Rodgers any weapons outside of Davante Adams. You'd be screaming if Mahomes had Hill and they surrounded him with Demarcus Robinson type players every ****ing season.

I'll give the Broncos credit, they're obviously smart enough to figure out it's pointless to even participate in this league, and especially this division, without a franchise QB.

It was either this or wallow in complete mediocrity. At least they're willing to go balls deep.

Come home!


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He literally used to talk about the Packers not supporting Rodgers and being terrible.

So full of shit.

Yes please

that is almost a Herschel walker type trade

I’m glad to see Noah Fant snd Shelby Harris leave the division.

I think this is a good deal for Denver, even if they overpaid a bit. You have no chance without a good QB and Russ is a great fit for them.

I wonder what Seattle would take for Metcalf, Harris, Lockett or Sidney Jones.

I'd send them our comp 3rd.

This would work.

Albert O is a better TE.


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We've played the Broncos 12 times since Manning retired. You know how many of those were one-score games? Exactly half.

We hardly sleepwalk against most teams let alone the Broncos.

Yea, that’s why he was Fant’s backup!

God damn you are one stupid mother****er.

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LMAO

Imagine believing that.

They haven’t discussed a trade because the Packers weren’t having it.

it's pretty close

It's not close to the Herschel Walker trade at all. ****ing hell.

They look like world beaters compared to the Seahawks. Go take a peak at the Seahawks drafting from 2016 to 2021.

They might be the worst in the league in that time frame

It was reported yesterday that Denver already had a contract for Aaron written up (as well as 2 other teams did, too) in place for if/when the trade was done with him.

Watch Denver give Russ a deal for a dollar more than Rodgers just got….

Okay? You said Rodgers had everything handed to him. He didn't. You can hate Rodgers...that's fine. I hate him as well.

Bert needs to get Mahomes two stud receivers in free agency and the draft and it won't matter what the teams in our division do.
Turn our offense into an unstoppable monster and there is nothing that can stop the Chiefs from winning their 7th straight division title and a trip to the SB.-

We currently have a problem with the defense that needs to be fixed.

Multiple things can be true at once.

1. Russell Wilson is still a top 10 QB.

2. He’s not even close to Rodgers, who is arguably #1.

3. The Broncos got a lot better at QB.

4. The Broncos are going to have trouble building a championship team around him.

5. Wilson has fizzled out each of the last 2 seasons.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiigggghhht.

The fact that this trade was announced within 30 minutes of Rodgers decision to return to Green Bay . . . . .

The fact that they hired GB's offensive coordinator, a guy who Rodgers reportedly absolutely loved to play for, to be their head coach.

The fact that league circles at the combine we're openly reporting Denver's love of Rodgers and that a trade proposal had been made to Green Bay.

I'm sure ALL of that is just misdirect and pure coincidence.


Even YOU'RE not that dumb, KnowMo.

Broncos always get players I like. ****, no more rooting for Wilson. But, now I can finally root for Lock again.

It'll be interesting to see this one plays out. I generally don't like to take hardline stances on trades because you never truly know who won/lost until the dust has settled.

That said, it seems like a decent move for the Broncos. They've lost 13 straight to a division rival and haven't even made the playoffs in 7 years. The franchise needed to put a stop to the bleeding, ASAP. Kind of like the Chiefs with Alex Smith, Wilson can be their bridge. He'll get in there and stabilize a floundering organization and probably even help them get to the playoffs. They still have Jeudy and Sutton, Williams in the backfield, a good defense and offensive line.

I'm really not sure what the Seahawks are doing, though. They just traded two 1sts for a box safety a couple years ago and now they turn around and let their franchise QB go for that plus a couple decent players. I suppose the idea is that they haven't been making the playoffs even with Russ lately so they might as well go all in on the rebuild..

I've always liked Wilson, though. I think, based on the last few years, he is probably about the 8-10th best QB in the league, but if he can get back to peak form I'd feel comfortable saying he'd be a top 5 QB even in today's league.

In either case, this addition makes the Broncos a more difficult matchup over the next couple years, which sucks for us in a division that was already pretty tough. Someone mentioned the Bills being the big winners in this trade and that couldn't be more true. They get to watch the AFC West and North beat up on each other while they have the inside track to the #1 seed.

It's an obvious statement but the Broncos need to get at least one championship out of this. They're now out of 4 cost controlled top 100 picks that would help out that team. And it's not like Wilson is 26-27. He could decline in the next couple of years.

Losing only Harris, Lock and Fant helps them but they need to hit on a ton of later picks to help fill out that roster. Either that or add some pieces in FA.