Cornwall Powell reminds me too much of David Boston.

You mean that guy who had 1600 yards in a season once?

Um, before the roid-related injuries started piling up, Boston was EXTREMELY productive.

If Powell gives us what Boston did his first 3 years, it's a ****ing steal of the century.

Just so you know, here is Boston's first 3 seasons.

40 rec, 473 yards, 2 TD
71 rec, 1156 yards, 7 TD
98 rec, 1598 yards, 8 TD

He only played 8 games his 4th year and then went to San Diego where he notched 70 rec, 880 yards, and 7 TD's before finally just being too hurt to play anymore.

I’d be interested to see if they had Janarius Robinson or Kaindoh higher on their board.

David Boston would MURDER in this offense. Sign me up.

I beg to differ...

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Kpass definitely looked the part coming out of college. The massive jump in level of collegiate competition and still being quite raw is what he had to overcome in adjusting to the NFL.

Kpass isn’t remotely close in terms of athleticism.

KPass looked like a physical freak, not a football player.

Kpass never had a position.

This dude atleast has something to work with there.

Downvote my post all you want SAGA45, but:

Kaindoh’s RAS = 9.6

Kpass’s RAS = 7.39

Staylor, I'm well aware of the numbers and don't disagree with your previous statement at all. In fact, I lean more toward your side of the Kaindoh fence that he might surprise some people even though I may be guardedly optimistic there. You were downvoted because nowhere in the comment you quoted did I state or remotely imply Kpass was more athletic as a prospect than Kaindoh.

I will say this though, there apparently was something about Kpass, perhaps his athleticism and/or his physique, that had you excited about his potential when he was drafted:

To be fair, I don't doubt that sentiment was shared by many here and in the Chiefs war room at the time. Either way, my original point with regard to the Kpass highlight film was to show he definitely looked like and flashed the potential to be an NFL edge rusher...at least enough to seduce the Chiefs into taking him with the 59th overall pick.

Nice, short vid of Kaindoh taking questions from the media at rookie camp. Click link to check out the vid...

LINK: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...251425668.html

I hope this kid develops into something.

Kaindoh Kan Do!

I'll show myself to the door...

We shall see. It certainly wouldn't surprise me if he had some standout days in practice once the pads are on and he gets adjusted.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021...0Jb8hGuEEnNNbg

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Two completely different type of athletes. Jones just made the same lazy comparison that many on CP like yourself have.

LMAO

ROFL

Joshua Kaindoh reminds me of Hitler.


I hear he also likes to paint as a hobby!

*draft pick thread ends up in DC*

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Bro wtf?

How insane is it that all 4 of those are (so far) gems? VEACH!

Bruh

I hate myself

Plus Key.

Vindicating those of us arguing pre-draft that Veach’s drafting trajectory was parabolic.

When it comes to late round Veach picks, the more fans say, "Who?!" the better the player.

That appears to be true, but Veach also traded future late rounders to move up for Bopete.

And?

Veach took Dorseys “decision lens” approach and said “**** this bullshit”.

Who’s entering his second year? First year no Covid?

Most players aren’t finished products their rookie year, hell it’s most common for players to break out their 3rd year.

I hope he sticks. Otherwise, we gave up another shot at a late round gem.

I'm not talking about Keyes. It's the 7th round. Who cares?

I'm talking about us taking Fenton in the 6th and everybody has their period because he didn't look very good in this one youtube highlight video.

Or taking Mike Danna in the 5th, who apparently wasn't even ranked by a bunch of Mel Kipers, so once again, fans hate the pick initially.

Kaindoh had the same stigma as those guys. Lack of production in college, so how can he be expected to help the Chiefs if he can't even help his own team in college? Plus we took him a full round higher than Danna, which means an even higher draft pick that Veach "pissed away".

Since 2019 there's been a Veach draft pick that makes fans go, "****ing WHO?!" and then that guy ends up being a pretty good contributor for us.

Nobody really cared about Keyes because... 7th round. And the trade up doesn't matter either.

Our GM must be pretty good if we’re discussing a second year 7th round pick.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joshua Kaindoh&#39;s athleticism and body control show up when you watch him, and it looks like he&#39;s getting more comfortable at this level.<br><br>Squeezes down the line, QB reads that he&#39;s playing the dive, but Kaindoh has the flexibility to plant and change direction to make the TFL. <a href="https://t.co/znnwRsjjfd">pic.twitter.com/znnwRsjjfd</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1430711274019729413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It would be huge for us if Kaindoh show some real production this year.

It's rare a defensive lineman looks bad when he gets off the line untouched. He's shown he gets routinely pancaked going around the edge in other shots. Seriously, virtually no moves besides a speed rush that isn't elite. I was disappointed.

It’s not gonna happen this year IMO. I’ve watched him and he’s very raw. Best case he makes the roster this year, gets a little action next year and then has a Kpass-like 3rd year.

Ease up there speed racer.

He’s essentially learning how to play football. He’s coming along.

Any word on Kaindoh’s ass?

Thicc only two C's on his way to three.

I've specifically watched Kaindoh on all his plays in both games. I honestly cannot recall one time he was pancaked, but possible I've missed it. With that said, he isn't "routinely pancaked" whether going around the edge or otherwise.

In my opinion, I actually think he's held up very well in the run game, but definitely much room for improvement in his pass rush.

I would like to see the pancaking. I didnt hear anything about that in training camp and he looked good against the cards, i didnt see the first preseason game though.

He looks like a PS player to me.

I have no idea who this is lol

Each spring, the NFL holds a draft in which players from the NCAA enter into a pool, and NFL teams take turns selecting from that pool of players. The worse your record was the previous year, the earlier you get to make your selection. Each team, barring forfeitures due to rule breaking, receives one selection per round for seven rounds. Compensatory picks are also awarded at the ends of rounds 3-7 for having your minority assistants hired as head coaches by other teams and for teams whose free agents signed with other teams outweigh in terms of contract dollar values the players that team brought in during free agency. From there, teams can trade their picks for other players and other draft selections even if those draft selections guaranteed selections in future seasons.

In the spring of 2021, the Kansas City Chiefs had a pick in the 4th round (144th overall) and they decided to select Joshua Kaindoh, who played DE for Florida State when he was in college. That's the player you didn't know about.

Oftentimes, the draft is a large part of a team's personnel-building strategy. Even picks in the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th are viewed as valuable assets that teams can use to find good players, so if you're a fan of your team and you want to keep tabs on how they're doing and where they'll be going in future seasons, you should familiarize yourself with the rundown of your favorite team's draft selections from that year. My favorite team is the Kansas City Chiefs, so I happened to know who Joshua Kaindoh was off the top of my head, because I knew his name from the list of draft picks the Chiefs made in the 2021 draft.

Hope that helps!

What is Kaindoh doing on this play?? Yes, I know he’s a rookie and it’s only one play and I’m not calling him a bust. Frank Clark doesn’t bring much pass rush but he wouldn’t have allowed this run to go for a touchdown.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The motioned the TE over to get the backers to shift. Shifted the fullback into the backfield to have him essentially become a pulling tackle. Kaindoh saw the LT block down and chased with him. Guard goes second level to Niemann who bit on the first step. They hit the counter. <a href="https://t.co/ItxBBUTF6K">https://t.co/ItxBBUTF6K</a> <a href="https://t.co/m2M9Hb43ua">pic.twitter.com/m2M9Hb43ua</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1437609182606372864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 14, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He didn't feel the pulling guard coming.

He was trying to 'seal' the edge by tagging the LT and creating space. Then he'd disengage and fill the hole. Just as he starts to disengage, the RG pulling across the formation locked him up and drove him out.

Just lacked some awareness there. And probably should've tried to disengage sooner but didn't have a feel for the timing on stuff like that yet.

My guess is that he's a rookie who's had 'set the edge, do your job' drilled into his head so often that he overplayed it. He knew his job was to make sure that edge was set so he was a little overzealous in doing so and rather than a quick chuck before getting his head up to find the ball-carrier, he overcommitted and left himself open to getting taken out by the pulling G.

{shrug} Hard to know for sure. Not a great rep.

Rookie mistake i wouldnt knock him for that at this point. He's super raw. I mean super raw. He came from a garbage coaching staff known for not developing talent.

Yea, I was shocked to even see him in the game to be honest. I guess with Clark out they just don’t have the bodies, but I’d imagine they prefer not to have him on the field this early on.

This guy had a disappointing rookie season, but he was always a developmental DE with some high upside traits. He spent two months on IR with an ankle injury, then didn't really play again. Before that, he had 46 snaps and zero stats.

Hopefully, he can turn a corner this year - there's playing time and opportunity there for him.

Has the tools, needs the coaching. I dont know that he takes a big step this year, but id be happy if he looks like he knows where the ball is and is going. Last year his limited snaps looked like he just wanted to engage a lineman and try not to get pushed out of the play.

edit: just clicked the highlights for the first time in a year or more. **** i hope he pans out. He looks the part.

Yeah, just watched it too. Wow, guy hits like a train, and looks quick to the qb (but not necessarily the EZ, lol). Would love to see some of that on our DL this year.

Getting some production from him and Powell would be nice.

I hope he can improve but he has a lot to learn. Josh Kaindoh was sooo bad in that game against the Browns. It looked like he had no idea what was going on.


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Any one of us could have scored on that play.

Another Tanoh Kpassagnon.


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Still my favorites.


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You’re an idiot.

Kaindoh is exactly the type of big swing you take in the 4th, especially when you miss out on an EDGE early.

Shut up bundle of sticks.


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Who would you have taken?

Oh that’s right, you know exactly dick about the draft and just talk out of your ass.

It's like the same guys piss on every draft pick and then hope they fail so they can be right.

I can't imagine being that kind of fan

TK ended up being an average player his last year in KC. Joshua has a long way to go to even hit that bench mark.

Based on last year's small sample size, pre-season and regular season, Kaindoh will be lucky to be on the roster in a year or two. He looked totally clueless.

It is what it is. Hitting on a high level Edge past the second round is very rare.

That’s the problem. You’re basing it off a small sample size with a guy that was never going to be ready year 1.

The coaching was and still is awful at FSU.

Now he’s got Joe Cullen coaching him up. Relax and have some patience.

These are probably the same people who pined for Tim Jones or whatever that practice squad guy was we lost to the jets. He was a udfa hero, but because a guy with literally the prototype body was a 4th and stupid raw they root against him(also see Noah Gray vs Jody Fortson). But then also bitch that guys like Bolton and cook aren’t high enough upside and “safe” picks. There’s no pleasing people on here. Every pick is too raw or too boring.

it would be nice if this dude and/or Noah Gray stepped their game up to the next level of where they are at and do a little more contributing

Exactly. If they take good football players with a high floor, they complain about the lack of upside.

If they take a big swing on upside, they don’t have any patience for development.

Tony Gonzalez was a bust his rookie year

probably could make a list of great players that had shitty rookie years I bet there are some HOFers.

This guy with no clue looks more lethal than Tanoh ever did. Tanoh looked like an athlete, Kaindoh moves like an athlete. Hopefully Cullen gets something out of him even if he’s only a situational pass rusher.

He and Trey Smith were two of the top players in the country coming out of high school. There's real potential here that shouldn't be dismissed.

Man I can’t get over how much he looks like a grown man in those highlights.

Derrick Johnson

Eric Fisher

Dwayne Bowe

Tamba Hali

Jamaal Charles

I still remember having to look at Jamaal's ypc after his rookie year to talk people off the ledge

Dee Ford was pretty worthless for his first two years. Then he ended up with a 10 and 13 sack season.

Patrick Mahomes did basically nothing his rookie year. this proves the point and there's no use arguing with me. It's ironclad logic, I'm putting you all on ignore.

I was just going to post about this...

NOBODY looked more clueless than Dee Ford, you know the play Im talking about.

The Chiefs were able to trade him for a 2nd rounder (Willie Gay). The 49rs paid him ridiculous money for very little production and are still dealing with his bloated contract.

Point is, he was lost on the Field but turned in a few good seasons, enough to recoup a second rounder. You never know

Lol dude Bowe, and Charles, and really even DJ didn't have shitty rookie years. Charles was behind Larry Johnson still and Herm was a stubborn ass. Bowe nearly had 1,000 yards and DJ did "ok" for a rookie.

Those were all highly drafted guys. This is an injury prone fourth rounder that....got injured.

I'd imagine the chances of getting much from him are fairly slim.