With Thuney next to them and Reid over the offense, I'd take the upside guy and give him help to nurse him along early.

They'll sign Villanueva for LT...draft an EDGE/WR in the 1st round & draft a OT in the 2nd round.

The more I read, the more I think Leatherwood might be the pick if he's there at 31.

Don’t you dare steal my dark horse prediction and pretend it’s yours!

I dont' know that I really like the pick, but measurable wise he's pretty plug and play at LT.

EVERY LT has issues this year. There is no can’t miss prospect that the Chiefs have a shot at. Like O.City said. Take one and let him learn next to Thuney with Bell helping out from time to time.

Fixed :)

Don’t you ****ing do that to me. I’m going to flip the **** out if we draft Tremble this year.

I just keep coming back to where the Chiefs will be picking yearly. As long as Mahomes is healthy and Andy is here, they're gonna be right there in the AFC champ game most years. It's gonna be hard to get players in the 30's of the first round that aren't 2nd round type prospects.

So if I can use one of those picks and go get a LT I think solidifies the spot, I think they'd do it.

I have no clue if they see one that does though.

The flip side of that is that they can’t just keep giving up the opportunity to have cost controlled assets on their team. We’re talking about it now but look at what’s happened with missing out on so many first round picks. Yeah we’ve got Clark but we’re also talking about having to replace him next year. If you’re giving up those picks then you’d better hit on your other draft picks and do it consistently often.

That's true. But it's easier to hit on some of those other spots than a DE or a LT. Thats my main argument for doing it.

I can make up missing on a safety or a corner.

DE and LT are just a step below QB in that they could be fatal flaws.

The Patriots were so good for so long bc they took solid players in FA and the draft and had the QB and coach to put them over the top. We have the same thing here currently with Andy, Patrick and Spags.

We’re never going to get a first rd prospect picking so low, but getting CEH’s, Hardman’s and Thornhill’s is just fine.

The problem is when you start getting horrible ROI with picks like Speaks, Kpassagnon.

Lot of people hate picks like Hardman bc he isn’t healthy Sammy but forget that he’s been productive and helped us in multiple playoff games

Everybody wants a healthy Sammy replacement but they forget he was a top 10 pick. That shit isn’t happening.

So I’m guessing the plan would be to put Niang at LT and Leatherwood at RT in that scenario?

I was thinking about this more this morning.

Maybe Niang is their backup plan to Trent Williams. When we drafted Niang we knew he was going to be a replacement for one of the OT positions. We just all a assumed it was for Schwartz because he played RT in college. But Fisher was coming up on the last year of his deal as well. They went after Williams because they could put him at LT and Niang at RT. But they missed out on Williams and now we’ve heard crickets at that LT position. It’s not to say that’s what they’re thinking but it could be with the amount of OTs in this draft that are being listed as RTs.

No, you play the guy with experience at LT at LT and the guy with experience at RT at RT.

I would argue there's no "can't miss" prospect PERIOD.

People here forget that Sewell opted out, which many here believe to be anathema to the "love of the game".

This is a DEEP draft for tackles. It's not top-heavy at all. There's no real blue chip guys, so they need to find the guy they like and move on.

Not from the comments I've read on him at practices. Most everyone noted substantial growth throughout the week on some core items, especially with hand placement and leverage.

And if you traded next year's first rounder, you have no way to draft a replacement. You're basically FORCED into free agency.

It's not a good idea at all.

Since you’ve switched to Brown at 31....do you think he starts day one?

I would argue we don’t need a Sammy Watkins, just a solid receiver that can separate and block.

Chris Conley filled in for Sammy for 6 games and did a solid job. We’ve just had garbage like Robinson filling that role

I've read the opposite

I can agree with you there. I’m still looking at grabbing one in the first three rounds though.

I'd love for an Okung-like signing that takes some pressure off him starting immediately, even if that means he starts mid-season and lets him at least start learning how to combat NFL rushers. That said, I think he's much more advanced as a prospect in pass pro than in the run game, much like Forsythe, except he comes with much more athleticism and far better footwork. He'd take his lumps, but I'm pretty confident we wouldn't see the Super Bowl 2.0.

Thats exactly my point though. Those are 2nd round type prospects. You can get those in the 2nd round every year.

The thing with a vet signing and a high draft pick route is how Andy treats the OL. If he starts with the vet, he's not playing the rookie unless injury occurs.

Some guy that will draw a mixed bag of FUTURE HOF!!!!!!, 'WHST THE HELL QERT VARCH' and OMG DAY 1 BUST.

A timeless CP draft day classic.

What are you going to do? Trade every year?

And as long as Okung is healthy....then that’s fine.

We all know he won't be healthy all season, which means the rook will play at some point. :D

Not every year. But if it's what it takes to fill the LT spot with someone they really like, yeah, I'd do it this year.

Seattle has consistently done it and they're still winning double digit games and making the playoffs every year. The Chiefs have done it the past however long and they're still thriving.

Those end of the first round picks just don't hold the value.

Are you really going to cite Seattle?

The number one thing holding them back from going to the Super Bowl is that their drafts overall have been AWFUL.

Downright awful.

Seriously. They're not thriving, they're limping along due to a Herculean effort by a top 3 QB to overcome all the dipshit moves they've made.

If our expectation is to be the Patriots and win that many SB's, we're gonna fail.

I operate under the expectation of winning double digit games and being right there every year in the mix.

Seattle's problem isn't that they've traded the picks. They've got pretty good return when they have. It's that when they haven't, they suck at drafting.

My expectation is to NOT be the Seahawks.

Dude, their personnel moves have been awful.

Who have the acquired, other than Adams, in the past 5 years via trade? They've traded away a bunch of guys for draft picks and turned those picks into jack squat.

No I don't expect to be the Patriots. But you picked probably one of the worst teams in football to use as your example, seriously.

Depends on who falls.

Hard to tell. Chiefs have a lot of options and a lot of holes to fill at 31.

I'd be surprised if they trade up. They're going to need draft capital in the coming yrs and probably just can't afford to do that.

If OT Teven Jenkins is there, doubtful...I think it'd be him.

WR Terrace Marshall Jr would also be nice here but Eagles are balls deep into this guy and prob won't make it to 31.

As a newcomer to this thead...

I may be missing the point, but why would you need a top 10 overall prospect to replace Sammy? How many of the best WRs in the NFL right now were top 10 picks. How many of the top 10 guys have significantly outperformed guys like Terry McLaurin, Chris Godwin, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, JuJu etc?

I'm sure you agree its about value when you're picking and who is left at the other positions you need to fill. That said, who are your favorites at WR that we might be able to pick up from our draft position?

To be fair, The Franchise said "first 3 rounds".

Most of the guy you listed were 2nd round picks. ;)

which is also fine.

Totally fair. I'm in agreement there. I'm just saying you don't need a top 10 pick to replace Sammy's production. His potential, maybe. I haven't been tape dogging this draft class so I don't know who the potential starters in the second round and later are, but it seems like there are a lot of WR options available after 31 who could make a difference in year 1 where tackle may be a different story.

That said if Devonta Smith starts falling, and you decide to move up to get him, I'm probably not upset.

there's very little that Veach could do that would piss me off.

But I'm not moving up for a WR, when that guy is going to be your third read 90% of the time. I'm just not going to do that.

A football player

With Mahomes i would, if they really feel that the WR they're moving up for is special.

Well shit, Byron Pringle could replace Sammy's production. Dude didn't produce because he was never on the field.

You get a third elite pass catcher though opposing defenses are freaking screwed. That is what Veach thought he was getting with Watkins. You can't leave a wide receiver of Devonta Smiths caliber in single man coverage. You just can't do that. How do you make Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce even more dangerous? Put a high level talent out there as your third option that demands respect.

sure. I just don't think you have to draft a guy like that high in the first, and I don't want to give away draft capital for that spot.

A lot of top WR's come in other rounds. A lot of top guys flop. I think that position is pretty volatile.

If we had a healthy Fisher and Schwartz going into this draft I might. But we've got some holes that need filling.

For what it's worth, I'm totally into drafting Terrance Marshall Jr. I think he's a perfect fit.

As far as WR goes, im thinking that Rashod Bateman goes somewhere between late 2nd and late 3rd. I think the Chiefs will have have a chance to take him with their 2nd or 3rd round pick. I'd like to see that.

Wut?

Bateman is a top 25 pick.

****a what?? He’s projected between pick 10 and 20

That would be a fun reality.

Maybe im wrong then, but i don't see him going in the top 25. I think he's a 2nd round pick. There's going to be at least 3-4 Wr's taken ahead of him.

That ain't happening.

One mock draft has him going to Indy at 21

Yeah, you're off.

I haven't seen a mock lately that has him going later than 27 to the Ravens.

He killed his pro day and his tape is excellent.

We would need to get ahead of Baltimore to secure Bateman.

Quit censoring swear words. The site does it for you.

Unless you’re trying to drop the N bomb because ****a what makes no sense.

Im calling my shot: Bateman will be a day 2 pick.

I get it, everyone says im wrong. I think im right.

Well to be fair, the mock drafts are all over the place. Nobody has a clue about this draft for whatever reason. So I wouldn't at all be surprised if you were right.

I didn’t censor shit

I thought Leatherwood was a RT only at the next level but his pro day seemed to be quite good from reports and he seems to be a very good fit for a zone blocking system.

I’m in but his strength needs to get better.

Quite a few people thought he was a RT or even a guard but since his pro-day, that thought seems to be shifting. If the Chiefs think he can play LT, I'm all for it. He has all the things you want.

Yeah I think so

Injuries scare me a bit but in the late first you gotta take some risks to get high level dudes

Kind of weird that guys who didn't play Lt in college are expected to make the switch in the pros, let alone yr 1.

What are the factors that contribute to this do you think? Development? Weight room?

Peter Schrager dropped his first mock today. Jenkins, Cosmi and Leatherwood were not in rd 1.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My first Mock Draft is now up here: <a href="https://t.co/TMLFqdel2U">https://t.co/TMLFqdel2U</a><br><br>*The Patriots trade up to 4 and get Justin Fields<br>*The Cardinals trade up to 7 and get Kyle Pitts<br>*Yes, Mac Jones to the 49ers<br>*The Broncos go QB<br><br>Discussing this morning on <a href="https://twitter.com/gmfb?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GMFB</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a></p>&mdash; Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) <a href="https://twitter.com/PSchrags/status/1380116825455927300?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marshall at 31? **** yes.

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists...mpression=true

31. Kansas City Chiefs | Kentucky LB Jamin Davis

Offensive tackle is the popular pick here, and with good reason. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chiefs took this opportunity to bolster their defense, which could use a boost of athleticism and playmaking ability at the second level. Davis is an impressive athlete for his size, and would give the Chiefs defense a weapon they simply don’t have at the position. A deep tackle class should give Kansas City some solid options in the second round, as well.

Depending on the offense, there's not a lot of difference anymore. Spread offenses there's almost no difference from what I understand.

Terrace Marshall Jr. is my shot, kids a stud and would look good in red

Same here. We should let him wear number 37 as well. No one has worn it since Joe Delaney died. Marshall’s uncle is none other than Joe Delaney

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Terrace Marshall Jr.’s family connection with Joe Delaney, the Chiefs running back who died a hero <a href="https://t.co/0CCGEmcd2Y">https://t.co/0CCGEmcd2Y</a> <a href="https://t.co/A4dw1L5YBZ">pic.twitter.com/A4dw1L5YBZ</a></p>&mdash; Deadspin (@Deadspin) <a href="https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/1379547475476766720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, if he is there in the second round Veach needs to run, not walk to the podium. That would be an absolute ****ing steal.

Teven Jenkins is my call. Just watched Kollman's video and I'm in. I am a bit concerned about moving a RT to LT in the pros but he looks to have the athleticism to make that work. If Reid and Veach think he can make that switch I'm in.

The AP draft guide dudes are not fans of Marshall’s game, FWIW.

Think it’s mostly because of effort issues and they seem to think he needs schemed open at the NFL level.

Versatility is Reid and Veach's mantra when it concerns DL/OL. Teven could very well be LDT and Remmers heir apparent depending what they think of Niang playing Left or Right Tackle

Some of their ratings on guys are kind of iffy.

James Palmer said today that the Chiefs feel comfortable taking a LT in rounds 1-3. They feel there is great depth in this draft

Listened to the AP pod and they were very critical of Alex Leatherwood. Said he struggled against good pass rushers and noted the Georgia and Texas A&M games to watch.

Gonna watch him vs Ojulari

No one related to Ben Niemann

Link?

Haven’t seen this name mentioned. This is my dark horse: Asante Samuel Jr

He really is just like his dad. Not the biggest or fastest but my god is he smart. He just understands routes and reads the QB.

20 PD’s and 4 INT’s his last 2 years shows he has ball skills as well.

Played inside and outside at FSU. Seems like amazing value at 31

The Chiefs will trade up for a LT knowing Veach's tendency that he doesn't **** around getting players he wants