Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15452784)

Listening to Colts radio on RADIO.com and the guy said “Bills are a matchup nightmare for this team. They’re going my to pick on (whatever CB he said) over and over.”

I find it so interesting that Chiefs fans think they know the Colts better than Colts fans know their own team and Colts announcers know their team.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453270)

For example:

The 2018 Patriots, for example, won 7 in a row (including playoffs) before beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Patriots, won 13 of 14 in a row (including playoffs) before losing to Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2017 Eagles won 14 of 15 before beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl (i'm not counting Week 17 where they sat all starters).

The 2014 Patriots won 12 out of 14 games before beating the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.

The 2008 Steelers won 8 out of 9 games before beating the Cardinals in the Super Bowl.

The 2005 Steelers won their last 4 in the regular season and then 4 straight in the playoffs (8 in a row) to win the Super Bowl.

The 2004 Patriot's won 10 of 11 games before beating the Eagles in the Super Bowl.

The 2003 Patriot's won 14 games in a row before beating the Panthers in the Super Bowl.

Etc, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15453405)

Not sure why you would say that. I certainly have never said that, especially about CP. The fact is that most fans tend to look at overall numbers, or total statlines, much as you did when you first came here, when you declared that the Chiefs defense was ranked last against the run last season, when in fact in the last six games of the regular season they had significantly improved their run defense to where they were actually a top-10 run stopping unit from week 11-17. Which they improved upon in the playoffs.

Which I find puzzling when you keep saying that you're studying stats, and no self-respecting stats guy would lean on such general data to analyze current trends. I never majored in stats, but I took several classes in college, and I know better than that. They must be teaching stats differently nowadays.




Yeah, IND has had some injury issues late in the season, including Buckner being out a couple games or something, and one or two of their secondary players dealing with injuries.

However, I believe Buckner will play this weekend, and he's integral to their DL and its ability to get pressure. What he'll actually be able to do is a question though.

Their secondary might be in trouble though. We could see blown coverages and bad communication as their DB unit stands right now.

The most important piece of their defense though is that DL and its ability to rush the passer. If they can do that, they can force Josh to have to be disciplined about how he QBs vs. pressure. They'd also have to make sure they take away Diggs of course, but if they can do it with some consistency that could be a problem for Allen, since he hasn't shown that he can deal with that situation at a high level.

Also, I'm pretty sure Prisco made an error in his math. But for this conversation I don't think we need to dig into that.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450616)

I don’t think that’s fair.

Chiefs fans literally think Mahomes is the GOAT after 2 years.

All fan bases have their ridiculous element.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453514)

That’s the other weird thing.

They’re pretty low on the sacks list for a top D-line.

My honest thinking is that Chiefs fans overrate the Colts because of how they’ve beaten them.

Because the stats & facts don’t seem to mesh with how highly Chiefs fans think of them.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453326)

You're looking up the year they beat the Rams.

I didn't list that year.

I listed the year they beat the Falcons.

It literally says "defeated the Falcons in the Super Bowl" in my post.

I'll BOLDEN the part, so it's more clear.

For example:

The 2018 Patriots, for example, won 7 in a row (including playoffs) before beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450616)

I don’t think that’s fair.

Chiefs fans literally think Mahomes is the GOAT after 2 years.

All fan bases have their ridiculous element.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15453580)

How about this for a streak. Patrick Mahomes has scored 30+ points in EVERY.SINGLE.ONE of his playoff games. Better freaking bring it if you wanna beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead for a trip to the SB.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453514)

That’s the other weird thing.

They’re pretty low on the sacks list for a top D-line.

My honest thinking is that Chiefs fans overrate the Colts because of how they’ve beaten them.

Because the stats & facts don’t seem to mesh with how highly Chiefs fans think of them.

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 15453590)

First of all, when you say "2018 Patriots", it's generally assumed that you're talking about the 2018 Season and not the year that the SB was played. Nobody is calling the Chiefs the 2020 World Champions.

Secondly, the Patriots won the championship in 2016 season, beating the Falcons in the Super Bowl which was played on February 5th, 2017.

It helps if you know what the **** you are talking about when bringing your "facts" to this forum. Otherwise, you'll end up looking like a moron, which is now certainly the case.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15453666)

Here is another streak. From 2013 to 2019 ALL 14 Super Bowl participants had a bye in the playoffs. Whoa!

Originally Posted by mililo4cpa (Post 15453657)

Actually, there are many more than Chiefs fans that think this....and I mean, he has already won a Super Bowl, a SB MVP, and league MVP, is in the conversation for a second MVP (that he probably won't win, but it's not outlandish to think that), and just won 14 of the 15 games he's played this year, and is 43 - 10 (including playoffs) in all of his starts.....

But yeah....it's ridiculous....and HEY! IS THAT A Josh Allen NO LOOK PASS?!?!?!?

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453746)

1 season’s awards make someone that GOAT?

No.

Mahomes is behind Allen in MVP odds.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453741)

How many were #2 seeds.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453746)

1 season’s awards make someone that GOAT?

No.

Mahomes is behind Allen in MVP odds.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453746)

Mahomes is behind Allen in MVP odds.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15452635)

...going into a thread about Von Miller to get people riled up about Tyreek Hill, and then continuing the same thing in a 2nd thread.
...responding to the situation by saying "the mods think Tyreek is off limits"
...going into a thread about Mahomes' prep for the playoffs to mention ypu're afraid the Chiefs will lose to the Ravens and won't meet up with the Bills when they make it to the AFCCG.
...randomly posting opinions on the Bills from Cowherd and others and then playing the aww shucks, I'm just posting what he said, when it riles up people.
...constantly talking about the arrogance of Chiefs fans in vague terms while also opinion spamming how amazing the Bills are, posting 250 times in two days to show how amazing the Bills are, openly talking about how the Bills will steamroll the Colts, etc.


I mean, you could just have no self awareness of how your posts will be received and how they will hijack threads, except you've used the friendlier term "tease" when you're blatantly trying to get under people's skin.

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15453765)

Of course Mahomes can't be the GOAT yet you ignorant fool. That takes time

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15453790)

That would be two seasons of awards, actually.

Mahomes is a shoo-in the the HOF right now, but not the GOAT. Being the GOAT is all about accomplishments, not physical abilities. That's why Brady is the GOAT and not Marino, in spite of the fact that as an actual passer, Marino was light-years beyond anything Brady could even dream of being. But Brady has the Rings and the other hardware, so he's the GOAT.

It would take at a minimum another 5-7 seasons at Patrick's current level of play to have a shot at GOAT status. Call it three more Rings, two more SB MVPs, a couple more regular season MVPs, somewhere north of 45,000 yds, around 400 TDs/70 INTs . . . something like that would probably get it done.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15453766)

Now that only 1 team from each conference receives a bye makes it that much more important. Pretty dang tough to win three playoff games in a row.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453907)

If Mahomes retired today, you think he is a shoo-in for the HOF?

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15453810)

It's downright bizarre. On one hand he's clearly trying to troll but on the other he's desperately seeking validation and reassurance.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15453984)

I think probably. He has the big awards already. Super Bowl Ring, Super Bowl MVP, regular season MVP, his record in the playoffs, his TD/INT ratio in the playoffs, second-youngest to throw 5000/50, fastest to 100 TDs, and a pretty extensive pile of other records that someone else can list if they want to.

There's plenty of HOF QBs that don't have just the first three things I listed there.

And I'm not blue-skying the idea. The idea that Patrick is already a HOF candidate has been floated by the likes of Louis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, Trey Wingo, Jim Rome, Mike Greenberg, etc., since winning LIV.

The case could be made that Mahomes, between his accomplishments and his absurdly efficient production, has already made a place for himself in the HOF.

In fact, it's already been made by some of those gentlemen I referred to above.

I think that he could play three more seasons and not win another SB and easily be a first-ballot HOFer, if his production stayed right where it is. He'd have played 6 seasons, amassed over 30,000 yds, around 300 TDs vs. about 40-50 INTs.

Skipping the ridiculous TD/INT ratio, which is better than any HOF QB that ever played, those numbers take most QBs about a decade to earn. And there's plenty of QBs that never threw 300 TDs, or 30,000 yds.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453917)

It actually does.

Because the reason bye teams make the Super Bowl is often because the teams that get the bye are the best teams in the conference.

If the 6-10 Giants got a bye week, they wouldn’t make the super bowl.

The bye isn’t a magic thing. It’s that they’re awarded to the best teams.

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 15454135)

Simple statistics there, pal. The fewer games you have to play against accomplished opponents to make the Super Bowl the better your probability. Not magic, of course, but increases your odds significantly. According to you and several other talking heads looking for clicks the Chiefs aren't the best team in the AFC heading into the playoffs. Im sure that has been the case in the past 7 seasons as well several times.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15454099)

I think you’re seeing with Chiefs glasses on.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15454080)

Bisquick has posted close to 350 posts on this board since Sunday.

Imagine being so manically obsessed with another team that you basically ignore the fact your team has a playoff game on Saturday (not against the Chiefs).

And if you somehow win the Wild Card round game (which would be a first for your franchise since 1995), you then have to win a SECOND playoff game before you’d have a chance to face your daddy, the Chiefs.

Bisquick’s 350 post obsession confirms we own him like a bitch.LMAO

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15454155)

No, I'm not. You say you're a numbers guy; simply check his stats/awards/accomplishments vs. the list of QBs currently in the HOF. Based on stats alone, he's probably in now, in consideration with his SB win, a reg. season MVP, and SB MVP.

Then consider the consistency of his production. He's averaging more than 4,500 yards/season, averaging more than 38 TDs/season, just 8 INTs/season, a 38-8 W/L record, 6 4th Q comebacks, 7 game-winning drives, etc.

And remember, he actually missed 3.75 games in his career. Had he actually played those games his TD total would be at least 120, or at least 40 TDs/season, a TD/INT ratio of over 5:1? That's a league record, btw.

And we haven't even started talking about all those next gen stats people nowadays like to talk about. Like that he has the highest ANY/A number in league history.

Or that he's likely to be the fastest to 15,000 yds. Fastest to 200 TDs. Et cetera and so on.

the fact is, that Mahomes already has smashed a long list of NFL records in just three years as a starter, in spite of missing 3.75 games.

Then add in the SB, MVP awards, the 5000/50, etc., and it's pretty clear that Mahomes right now if he retired after this season, would be almost a lock for a first-ballot HOF. Certainly he would be a HOFer at some point, just based on his stats and record-breaking career as it stands.

Which is to say nothing of the eye test, which doesn't even need stats to prop up his claim to a jacket. He's the QB version of Barry Sanders. You don't need stats to see that the guy is unique, and uniquely gifted at his position. just watch him play. That's literally all anyone really needs to know.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15454099)

I think you’re seeing with Chiefs glasses on.

There are many QB’s with 1 Super Bowl and good stats that are not in the Hall of Fame.

It’s about sustained success.

3 more seasons (which you mentioned), then I agree.

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Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15454183)

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

It’s nothing against Mahomes, I just don’t think ANY player would make the HOF after 3 years.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15454183)

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

It’s nothing against Mahomes, I just don’t think ANY player would make the HOF after 3 years.

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 15454350)

Luckily there are players in the HOF like Jim Kelly watering down the talent pool and making it possible even with the limited years for production. Just think..Mahomes is literally only probably a few seasons away from passing Kelly’s career TD mark. Most importantly he already has more Super Bowl rings than anyone in the pathetic history of the Buffalo Bills.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15453342)

$10K on Bills -10.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15454840)

ROFL

I wonder if thedicks' boyfriend is jealous of all the time he spends seeking validation from strangers on the internet.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 15453389)

He believes in his boys. They're on a steak ya know.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15454840)

ROFL

I wonder if thedicks' boyfriend is jealous of all the time he spends seeking validation from strangers on the internet.

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 15454963)

I have a sneaky suspicion the Colts have a chance.

The Bills defense really struggles against a power run game.

Josh Allen has been at his worst against cover 2 this year. Colts run a lot of cover 2.

Those two things make me think the Colts could cause an upset.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15454976)

Allen struggled against zone in the first half of the season.

Go watch the Denver game. He's got it all figured out now.

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 15455013)

I'll admit I am looking at full season stats, so it includes early season issues. Also not sure if Beasley will be available? That could make a big difference against zone.

Comparing the Colts to the Broncos, I would also say the Colts pass rush should make Allen's life much harder than the Broncos did.

Not saying the Colts should be favorites or anything crazy, just saying I can see a chance of an upset.

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 15455013)

I'll admit I am looking at full season stats, so it includes early season issues. Also not sure if Beasley will be available? That could make a big difference against zone.

Comparing the Colts to the Broncos, I would also say the Colts pass rush should make Allen's life much harder than the Broncos did.

Not saying the Colts should be favorites or anything crazy, just saying I can see a chance of an upset.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15455213)

All depends on Rivers. If he plays well they have a shot at an upset, if he doesn't might be a long day for the Colts.

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 15455213)

All depends on Rivers. If he plays well they have a shot at an upset, if he doesn't might be a long day for the Colts.

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 15455741)

I think it depends more on if the Colts D can stop Allen. I think the Colts will be able to score with their run game, regardless of what Rivers does.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15455762)

My brother has been an IND fan for nearly two decades now, and he says IND doesn't run block all that well. They happen to have a couple of pretty good RBs, so they get yards anyway, but they aren't that efficient doing it.

So what PA is saying is probably closer to the truth, at least offensively. Rivers is going to have to play a clean game, no turnovers, and he's going to have to be efficient, meaning his avg yds/att has to be at least league average (7yds/att) or better. Their run game should do a little better than their average, because BUF doesn't defend the run well, as we know.

And their defense will have to play at least to their average. In their favor, BUF doesn't run the ball very well, so they shouldn't have to commit extra resources stopping that, and they can concentrate their players and scheme to stopping Allen.

But if Rivers has a below-average game, nothing their defense does will matter that much.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15455766)

He's right.

For all of their investment on the line, they're not good run blockers. One of the best pass blocking units in the game but just mediocre at run blocking. Their running game is largely volume, not quality.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15450616)

I don’t think that’s fair.

Chiefs fans literally think Mahomes is the GOAT after 2 years.

All fan bases have their ridiculous element.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15455817)

That just seems ass-backwards to me. I only played a few years in HS and 1in college, but I always figured that run-blocking was inherently easier than pass-blocking for OLs.

But whatever. Point is, they aren't that good at it. My hope is that for just a few plays they block pretty well and Taylor or that other RB get loose. If they get a little lucky and either break one off for a TD or just get inside the RZ, maybe they can steal a couple scores early. Then they have a better than even chance to steal that game.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15460700)

Hey Megatron,

I just wanted to say “thank you” for all the fun debates we’ve had.

You know your football and I’ve learned a few things by reading your posts that I didn’t know before.

You’re one of the few posters on this forum that has been fair and courteous, even if they may disagree.

This will be my past post on this forum, but I wish you a great year and much success.

Goodbye.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15460700)

Hey Megatron,

I just wanted to say “thank you” for all the fun debates we’ve had.

You know your football and I’ve learned a few things by reading your posts that I didn’t know before.

You’re one of the few posters on this forum that has been fair and courteous, even if they may disagree.

This will be my past post on this forum, but I wish you a great year and much success.

Goodbye.

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15460733)

Lol you're leaving because you know exactly what's coming. Your team barely squeaked by today and you know they have no shot against the Chiefs, so you're leaving now so you don't have to face the music. Pussy.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15460700)

Hey Megatron,

I just wanted to say “thank you” for all the fun debates we’ve had.

You know your football and I’ve learned a few things by reading your posts that I didn’t know before.

You’re one of the few posters on this forum that has been fair and courteous, even if they may disagree.

This will be my past post on this forum, but I wish you a great year and much success.

Goodbye.

Originally Posted by daquix (Post 15460700)

Hey Megatron,

I just wanted to say “thank you” for all the fun debates we’ve had.

You know your football and I’ve learned a few things by reading your posts that I didn’t know before.

You’re one of the few posters on this forum that has been fair and courteous, even if they may disagree.

This will be my past post on this forum, but I wish you a great year and much success.

Goodbye.

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15471826)

I hit on a three team parlay, with taking the Rams, Colts, and Browns and the points.

When I looked at that ticket on Saturday morning, I thought what a waste of money!

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15460733)

Lol you're leaving because you know exactly what's coming. Your team barely squeaked by today and you know they have no shot against the Chiefs, so you're leaving now so you don't have to face the music. Pussy.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15471969)

The dude put a thousand dollars on the Bills to win by 10+.

He's obviously in way over his head.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 15472520)

Can't imagine - you wait decades for a playoff win, then you finally get one but it's ruined because they didn't win by enough to cover your ridiculous bet. Why?!

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 15472624)

Dude lost 10k ROFL...unless he's a lying sack of shit...which he is

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15472660)

No ****ing way that dude bet 10K. That would be 10x his net worth.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15472743)

SVP just said he’s going heavy on the Browns.

I guess I’m missing something? What are all of these guys seeing that I’m not?

I’ve never seen such little respect for a 14-1(not counting the Chargers game) team & also a team that has won 23/24 games.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15472743)

SVP just said he’s going heavy on the Browns.

I guess I’m missing something? What are all of these guys seeing that I’m not?

I’ve never seen such little respect for a 14-1(not counting the Chargers game) team & also a team that has won 23/24 games.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15472768)

Heavy on the Browns how? To cover? At 9.5, that might not be a bad idea.

But if he's keen on the Browns winning outright, he's high.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15472792)

That spread is huge. Especially after the December.

Now if Mahomes switches to Rape mode, that’s a sucker play. But who knows.

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15472811)

SVP always talks point spread not money line.