28/35-375-4

This is about where i'm at. I wont be surprised if the chiefs win.. but i wont be surprised if the titans win either. Vrabel has em dialed in

What is that? Tennessee's record in the last decade?

Whose playing for the National Championship again?

Does AJ Brown play the slot position primarily? Wondering cause Mathieu would likely cover him if so..

Looks like he is primarily outside. Only 10 percent of his snaps were in the slot.

Tennessee plays a super high percentage of 3-WR sets. Getting Mathieu in the slot should hopefully make KC a little more productive in the run defense against those sets. It was atrocious against Tennessee the last time. Having Pennel and Ragland active would also be good...

Hyperbole. You do realize that the Texans won their division and likely would’ve swept the Titans had they not rested their starters week 17, right?

I think the Titans are better today, but it’s not THAT big of a difference.

mitch banging the drum?

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The Titans roster is better where it matters most outside of QB. OL and DL. Both of their lines are massive and will punch you in the mouth. Houston’s lines are ****ing garbage. Sure they have flashy receivers and an elite QB but even that won’t help when your coach sucks and your lines are a joke.

No way. Hopkins, Fuller and Fells are really good and Watson is worlds better than Tannehill.

Their defense is better but not much. Go watch the Titans/Ravens game. Lamar had the TE open A LOT. He was just terrible throwing the ball.

So where it matters most except where it matters THE most.

The Texans also have a better group of weapons and a more explosive passing game in general.

You’re talking like someone who didn’t watch those two teams place each other.

I watched the whole game man. I saw the Titans defense make Lamar look uncomfortable and force him to throw the ball, and he couldn’t, because he’s average and the Titans coaches know it. Lamar got a large part of his yards in essentially garbage time.

The Titans defense is a big step up from the Texans IMO. They can actually generate pressure with their front four, and they’re extremely well coached. I think Mahomes will carve them up because he’s Mahomes, but they’re a lot better and more comfortable in man to man than Houston.

And they have a shit coach and a terrible offensive line. Where Tennessee is excellent.

Coach is by far the most important thing outside of QB. And Vrabel is legit, while BoB pretty much lost his team the game with his terrible decision making.

Walking around on the sideline, he looked like he should be good to play next week.

There O line is really good. We are gonna need our whole O line and LB to make plays in the run game next week

I think the Chiefs are going to kick their ass.

Tennessee hasn’t faced an offense like this.

KCs offense is dynamic, explosive and creative. They’re going to give Tennesee fits imo.

The only way Tennessee could win is by running all over the Chiefs, getting key turnovers and controlling the game that way exposing the Chiefs run d. To keep the game close and for Vrabel to out manage Reid in situational, clock management football. If the game goes in that direction then they could possibly still be the cinderella.

But still, even IF they have a 14 point lead KC could score that in a qtr lol

Chiefs proved today no lead is safe. They have the best offense in the league.

Its just a matter of can they keep the game close against the Chiefs? And not get into an offensive passing/boxing bout between Tannehill vs Mahomes. Because if they get caught in that scenario, where they have to play catchup, they’re gonna get knocked out like Mike Tyson knocking out Michael Spinks.

The fact we made it out of this game with no major injuries is huge.

If Chris Jones is 90+% the Titans never get close in the second half.

Ryan Tanny-Heel isn't built for this shit.

Henry might get them a couple drives in the first half but eventually we are just too much track speed for teams to keep up with.

Um, those teams didn't have the reigning MVP and an elite passing offense at full strength.

Did anybody notice that Marcus Peters tackled Henry solo on two different occasions.

That says a LOT!

Henry is worn down.

Spot on!

Yea he went almost 200 yards and is “worn down” lol ok

Henry has had 96 rush attempts during the past three weeks... that's a lot of wear and tear for a physical RB.

The Titans are standing on the tracks.

And the train's coming through.

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Clay, you have no value in your posts.

For real though, if Jones is able to play, its going to make a huge difference.

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He's still Tannehill... The guy that finished top 10 all time in a single season for completion percentage and yards per attempt? 70.3% 9.6avg.

Points allowed... Patriots 225. Ravens 282. Chiefs 308. Titans 331.

As for Tannehill having no weapons, you've apparently never seen AJ Brown or Corey Davis. 20.2 yards and 14.0 yards per catch. Henry is suck a weapon that Tannehill only had to attempt 14 and 15 passes the last two games against better defenses.

Your take on the Titans sounds more like fiction than reality.

They already did in week 10.

Revenge tour coming, Titans next on the list. Good luck stopping the legion of zoom.

Running for 250 yards but scoring less than 3 TDS... Also running the ball down that much by 18 getting doubled up on the scoreboard... Sounds logical.

The Ravens were best team in football and Patriots were just as good as the Chiefs.

Points scored... Ravens 531, Chiefs 451, Patriots 420.

They scored 13 and 12 against Titans.

LMAO

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Peyton, Rodgers and Foles have all won Super Bowls.

51.31 would be a nice tip.

On the receipt, Titans waiter could've wrote. #1 Ravens and #3 Patriots... Eliminated

How are both of those teams compared to a Chiefs team that can throw the ball down the field? Pats had PEDelman, and that’s it. Ravens have a running back playing qb who is very inconsistent when forced to read defenses, and throw from the pocket? Not saying it’s gonna be a cakewalk but we can actually make plays down the field on a consistent basis.

Do all Titans fans have such poor grammar? Or are you unique in this respect?

Post whatever you want. Enjoy yourself. You'll disappear harmlessly in a week's time as you fade into the indifference of your franchise.

Henry is going to get his yards. Maybe not 190 like our last meeting, but 150-170 is probably in the ballpark.

However . . .

The Titans are not a scoring machine.

Against the Patriots TEN only had 2 coring drives out of 10 possessions. A pick-6 is the extra score that gave them that game.

Against the Ravens TEN only had 4 scoring drives out of 10 possessions.

Against the Chiefs in the regular season again the Titans only had 4 scoring drives out of 10 possessions. Again, a turnover gave them the points they needed to beat us.

They punted against our defense 4 times, and turned the ball over on downs once.

Against our banged up defense.

On the other hand, the Chiefs scored on 7 out of 10 possessions. 3 TDs and 4 FGs. At least two of those FGs should've been TDs, but Mahomes over-threw Hill for an easy score, and Hill got hurt and couldn't bring down another.

And our OL got banged up in that game, and at one point 3/5 of our OL was comprised of back-ups.

But let's review:

On average, TEN on average punts away 60% of their possessions. Against pretty much everybody.

The Chiefs scored on 70% of their possessions against their defense. With a banged up OL and a rusty Pat.

Pat's not rusty now. I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT NOW, AS HE ORCHESTRATED AN OFFENSE THAT SCORED TDS ON 8 OUT OF 12 POSSESSIONS LAST NIGHT.

Our defense is playing significantly better than when last we met. But let's say that our defense doesn't play one iota better than they did back then.

Even if we only hold them to their season/post-season average of scoring on 40% of their possessions, they aren't going to keep us from scoring on at least 6-7 out of 10 of our possessions.

Anyone think we can't score at least 5 TDs next week? In a whole game, not 41 minutes?

Their own tactic of grinding it out on the ground is going to be their undoing, people. If they only possess the ball 8 times, they only score 3-4 times. If we only possess the ball 8 times, we score 5-6 times.

If they only allow us 6 possessions (not really possible, but for effect), we score 4 times. They only score 3 times.

By the way, if you go back and just check their box scores for the season, they are boringly consistent about this trend. They are a field position team.

All we have to do is not spot them a couple TDs in the first quarter, and we'll be fine.

How in the hell do I sit at work and concentrate this week? Talk about a massive challenge. I'm on cruise control until Sunday.

You're a good man. Always tip your waiter unless they are directly being a prick or something. Most restaurants don't pay them crap. I would like your comment if I could. I hate certain teams but I'd still tip the waiter that was a fan of the teams I hate because at the end of the day it's just a game and I'm not going to try and screw them over for liking a sports team. Sounds like you guys were just having a friendly sports rivalry.

Get a couple stops early, get up a couple scores

Let Henry run all he wants then

Ravens 531 points scored.

Chiefs 451 points scored.

If the top scoring team in the NFL along with MVP at QB isn't a power house offense, than what is?

Rams and Vikings had historically great offenses, they got eliminated too.

The Ravens offense was better and the Titans stopped it.

Spags to our defense:

YOU HAVE ONE JOB!

STOP HENRY!

LOL. Cute.

I just purchased my airline tickets to Miami. MCI to FLL. Leaving on Friday and coming back on Monday. On a separate note, Southwest Airlines sucks! Jacked up the airfare to over $600 per segment just because. So, over $1200 for my buddy and me to travel to So. FL. Now to find lodging which won't be easy!

D. Henry presents the only obstacle in the way of my plans. He scares the heck out of me.

GO Chiefs, GO Mahomes!

No. That turns out not to be the case.

The BAL offense is predicated heavily on establishing the run; everything they do depends on running the ball on early downs and getting to 3rd and short. From there they execute their passing game. Not the other way around. 3rd and long for the Ravens is worse than flipping a coin.

It was the same exact problem for the Vikings as well this weekend. Everything in that offense is dependent on Dalvin Cook running the ball and getting to 3rd and short. When they faced 3rd and long consistently, they couldn't execute their passing attack at all.

The Chiefs offense isn't dependent on a strong running game. Pat doesn't need 3rd and short to execute at a high percentage of efficiency. As a matter of fact, if you check those advanced stats everyone likes so much, you'll find that Mahomes converts 3rd and long more efficiently than he does 3rd and short. By a significant margin.

In fact, I'd have to check to be sure, but I don't think the Chiefs ran the ball more than 6 times during that 7 TD stretch. We ran RPOs and play-action, but they were almost all passing plays.

And the Titans passing defense is ranked in the bottom third of the league.

Just like the Texans passing defense.

Holy crap, did anyone else notice that the Chiefs actually ended up running for more yards than the Texans offense? Wild . . .

9-7 already beat 14-2 and 12-4. So actually 11-7...

Mariota 2-4
Tannehill 9-3

Fourth consecutive road game.

If the Titans can’t get a pass rush, it’s over. Containing Henry and other factors start to matter if they can.

Great analysis. Chiefs should anticipate less possessions this game, so they need 7 more frequently when they have the chance.

They have a way better chance at generating pressure on Mahomes than Houston. Houston’s DL was an embarrassment yesterday, Mahomes had all day to throw and move around.

Ryan Tannehill has 160 yards, 3 TDs and an INT in his 2 playoff games.

The team has been on a mission since last year’s AFCCG. I think they started yesterday’s game way too amped and tight. Once they settled in they began a run that I believe continues through next week. The game may be a hard fought one but, I’m kind of thinking the Chiefs just plain fist **** Tennessee.

They gave us 10 possessions in week 10, and our defense gave up 225 yards rushing in that game. We probably are going to get 10 possessions.

They gave the Ravens 10 possessions.

And if they give us 10 possessions, there's no real reason to expect that our Chiefs won't score at least 5-6 TDs and a couple FGs. That's a minimum of 41 points. Check their scoring average over the last 8 weeks or so. Their offense scores a boringly consistent 24-27 points/game.

Nick Foles says hi

He had 9.6 y/a in a 10 game span so we need to crown him. Not like that’s totally unsustainable for a journeyman QB.

Lamar threw for 36tds 6ints on 66.1% and is MVP for the season. I'm not sure why you would consider him.a running back. Same goes for all the people mocking Tannehill when his passer rating is 4th all time along with top 10 in completion percentage and yards per attempt in a season. Sounds like every QB in the NFL sucks outside of Mahomes reading this thread.

Are there any good QB's in the NFL?

Trying to remember the circumstances of our first loss. We had our run D figured out at this point but it's still hard to understand why we didn't roster Pennel. He and suggs could be big difference makers. I also think our LBs have sneaky improved a LOT.

On offense we moved the ball at will and this time mahomes will be able to move. Think I remember he made a few business decisions that game (for very good reason) including sliding on a crucial play where we all know a healthy mahomes would've run for a first down.

I think the Titans were a sleeping giant when we played them. They overplayed what we thought they were. We on the other hand are a much better team than we showed last time.

The point was probably that when Tennessee got up on a quick lead vs Baltimore everyone knew the game was over. Tennessee turned lamar into a passing qb. Kudos to the D and O for getting the job done early. Tennessee still probably pulls it off but that game would look really different if the ravens made a stop or scored early.

We all KNOW what is coming and so does everyone else: Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry. They are going to try and ride him to victory by feeding him the ball 30-35 times and keep Mahomes off the field.

I don't think it's anymore complicated than that.

Let’s not forget about Dion Lewis. That sneaky ****er has caused many problem for us I. The past. Obviously Henry is public enemy #1 but hopefully Spags has some attention focused on a what if scenario should Vrabel pull out a short passing screen game attack. Be prepared for anything!


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I am anticipating fairly easy movement by the Titans between the 20s, but stiffening the defense in the red zone to hold their drives to 3. If the Chiefs can retaliate with 7 frequently, the Titans will be forced into a game they cannot win.

Many will complain, but bend and don’t break defense can provide the Chiefs more possessions.

Ravens points scored: 531
Chiefs points scored: 451

Ravens offenseive yards: 6,646
Chiefs offensive yards: 6,259

Ravens point differential: +249
Chiefs point differentisl: +143

Lamar Jackson is MVP.

Add in..

Ravens points allowed: 282
Chiefs points allowed: 308

Ravens record: 14-2
Chiefs record: 12-4

Ravens finished season going 12-0
Chiefs finished season going 6-0 with their last loss being against the Titans.

Cute. Lol.

Tennessee feels like the overconfident group here if these posters are any indication of their whole fan base.....

Henry is going to get his but at the end of the game, if the Titans don’t have at least 31 points, they’re probably going to lose. And they can definitely score that much but I wouldn’t bet on it.

Not ideal but that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to lose. Might be their 4th consecutive win. Their last two games at home before this, they lost. Titans have been balling. #3 Patriots, #1 Ravens. Now #2 Chiefs. NFC team will be either 1 or 2. This isn't just their 4th straight road game either, this is their 4th straight playoff game. If they lost to Texans, they don't get in.

By the way, I hope the fans here know I'm not trying to troll. I like talking football. I only signed up to defend Tannehill. I once thought he sucked but he has been really good.

Whatever happens, I'm just glad they got rid of Patriots and upset Ravens. It's been a fun season.

Those stats are meaningless without context.

Total yards, Total points, point differential, yards allowed are so general that they have virtually no meaning whatsoever.

Provide some kind of context to back up those stats and you might have some kind of argument about something.

You could be right. Admittedly, I was just going by stats and Ravens have just been insanely good. As we've seen stats don't always matter even if Ravens had more yards and points than Chiefs. It didn't matter at all in the Titans game. Anything can happen, Chiefs go down 24 and then score 28 in a quarter. Sports are crazy. Hope the refs let them play.

Well, so did the Texans in week 6.

How much did it matter yesterday with Mahomes back at full strength?

I don't remember much about that game except for the awful play call at the end and Mahomes was gimpy as well as the whole team was.

Our starting OL was Erving, Schwartz, Rankin, Wylie, and Reiter. This was the game that Ogbah got hurt early on as well and Clark was on a pitch count. With that shit OL we still almost put up 500 yds of offense against them.

The key will obviously be make Tannehill throw the ball.

It's not that stats don't matter. Stats can be very useful to describe an event/performance/etc.

But without the proper context they could literally mean almost anything. Stats are supposed to help describe a performance (in the case of a game/athlete), not be the only describer.

Whatever you gotta tell yourself, sweetheart.

I admire your use of (over) confidence. It will carry you through the week, and then, on Sunday, you come back here after we score 50 points on your team, Shirley.

You seem to be unaware of the composition of the offenses you’re comparing, or simply ignoring that difference.

Lamar Jackson had a great season and is deservedly the MVP. However, as already pointed out, that offense is all about generating steady gains on early downs and staying out of passing downs on third down.

It’s still dangerous on third and long because of Jackson’s running ability, but if he has to line it up and throw it, it still is advantage: defense.

Look at the game again. You know all those intermediate throws outside the hashes Jackson couldn’t line up due to inaccuracy and wobbly throws? That’s one of Mahomes’ biggest strengths. You know all those throws Jackson missed to open TEs? Again, Mahomes doesn’t do that.

The Chiefs’ stable of receiving weapons far outstrips either of the teams the Titans have faced in the playoffs, and also have more deep speed than either of them.

Tyreek Hill | Sammy Watkins | Mecole Hardman | Travis Kelce | Damien Williams

That’s an alignment you’re going to see a lot on Sunday from KC. Dangerous, game-breaking receiving weapons everywhere.

The Titans present a tough challenge for KC because of the stylistic fit. The Titans’ stout run D will hold Kc’s run game mostly in check, and the Titans offensive style will likely win ToP for Tennessee. But KC was out-possessed by 10 minutes yesterday and still scored 51 points.

Is Jayon Brown going to play? Is he going to be 100 percent? Tennessee will need his coverage prowess on Kelce to get by.

How good are your 3rd and 4th CBS? Because they’re going to play a lot of snaps. Can anybody besides Jackson run with Tyreek Hill? Because Watkins and Hardman also have game-breaking speed.

What other options do you have on the DL? Your base guys are bigger, slower dudes who don’t specialize in rushing the passer. That’s great against the run, but it makes it tough against an elusive passer who gets the ball out quickly, knows how to climb the pocket, knows how to escape pressure, and can do some damage with his legs.

These are the questions you should be looking at rather than just comparing base stats of two very different offenses.

We lost Rankin in that game. And Allegretti(?) and Wiz came in at one point.

They are going to try to do exactly what the Patriots did last year. We’ll be prepared for that shit this time.

Mahomes is gonna drop bombs on these fools

Week 10 is a long time ago.

I'm not trying to argue anything really. I'm just counteracting some of the comments being made. Titans playing on the road isn't a real talking point. Tannehill not having to throw last two games isn't a real talking point. But that's what some people are basing the game on. I didn't think Titans would beat Patriots or Ravens because just thought they were inferior. They did though and they did it on road. I agree context matters. Someone called Lamar Jackson a running back... The guy there 36 tds. People are saying Tannehill sucks as he finished top 10 all-time for passer rating, completion percentage, yards per attempt. I'm reading comments saying two of the best QBs in the NFL are nobody.

Really, the Titans DON'T want a replay of the first game. Speaking of stats, the probability of them winning that game given the statistical profile of it was less likely than the Chiefs coming back from 24-0. It was something like only the 2nd time in NFL history that a team dominated as much as the Chiefs and lost.

Even the greatest defensive mind in the modern NFL with a plethora of elite secondary players could only shut Mahomes down for one half.

Lamar Jackson is a terrible passer.

If they "force" KC to pass, that doesn't necessarily give Tennessee the advantage it did against a one-dimensional Baltimore offense.

LMAO @ Tannehill as one of the best QBs in the league.

As someone previously said, stats with out context are meaningless (same goes for Lamar).

This is his first year with only his second team. I agree it could be a fluke but he seems to be breaking out with a team that doesn't suck. Dolphins are the absolute worst. Winning with that team would require dragging thousand pound boulder on your back. They are awful franchise