If we can't beat them now with Brady and their offense, we never will.

Pats open up as 2.5 point favorites.

It’s going to be glorious.

Is that gonna make up for their lack of talent on offense, broken O line and QBs who has hit the wall?

We just need to be sure and the football.

This!! Lmao

Always fun to see the other sides perspective...

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Copy/paste, sir. Those queers have banned some of us.

This said over and over again essentially:

“Hate to say it, but KC is gonna kill us. If the Texans destroyed us (let’s face it, 2 late TDS in the 4th made it close), KC may put up 50+ on us. Just not our year, the odd year curse strikes again. Just don’t have the horses to compete this year.

In a game the Pats desperately needed, they played their worst. This team feasted on **** teams. Got destroyed by physical teams who play the RPO, something this defense can NEVER beat. KC plays a similar RPO type style. I’d be EXTREMELY shocked if the Pats beat KC next week. There’s just no way in hell its gonna happen.”

You guys keep talking about how greatly improved the Pass Defense is, while it is better, its mostly because everyone knows they can just run it down our throats, so why pass?

Another gem where they are talking about just forfeiting the game:

“Fine. You want me to say it? As currently constructed, this team is going to get blown out by KC. We have no run game. No blocking. No TE's. No receivers with the ability to get seperation. KC's defense isn't great. And I doubt they win the SB. But the Texans defense sucked too. And this offense did squat. So yeah. Your darn right I hate our chances against the best QB, TE, and receiver in the league. And it has nothing to do with our defense. It's because the offense can't sustain drives. Which in turn tires our defense out. With the way our offense has played, we are getting the wrong team. At the wrong time. If that makes me a crap fan. So be it. I call it like I see it. Not everything is rainbows and sunshine. Things won't just magically happen. Thee needs to be personnel changes. Which it's too late in the year to happen.“

They aren’t optimistic over there. And rightfully so. Defense has really improved in the right spots and, overall I think, is better than Houston’s. We also have a better offense than Houston.

Offense put up 31 today in a very workman like way. Nothing flashy. Just took advantage of their opportunities.

I would love to see Mahomes have enough time to find 3 or 4 long attempts next week, but I’m not holding my breath.

I would have said the same thing if it weren’t for 6 interceptions in the last 2 games.

If Reid calls the game like he did yesterday, we can beat them. Efficient and leaning on the run game, max protect...let our offense get out early and make them one dimensional.

Don't want them leaning on the run game. Romeo gave us the blueprint to win on defense last night - attack Brady up the middle. Put a DB in coverage on White. Double PEDelman. Mix in blitzes and go press man.

It can be done.

Agree 100%. Run that exact game plan on D.

Lol, they know they are doomed.

Was that really necessary?

Gonna be a hard-faught game. Our offense is not playing well at all. Looks like a U-6 soccer team out there.

I watched KC vs OAK. I don't think your O is clicking either but y'all have the talent to overcome it and make big plays whereas we do not. Your D is playing pretty well.

If we hope to have a shot a #1 seed we need to win.

Winner from the Pats board:
“Can’t believe I’m nervous about KCs defense good grief.”

Did we ever think the above were possible? They should erect a statue of Spags outside of Arrowhead.

The sports media is going to be all over the Pats loss to the Texans and they will try to use as a rally cry. The time has never been better to crush their souls because they still think they are legit. You can't hide from a cupcake schedule it time to crush them like a bug and make them doubt themselves. I hope our guys know it time to end this fraud dynasty.

I dislike the Patriots more than I dislike the Chiefs... so, I hope KC can beat them. Good luck.

Yeah, but if we're in a three way tie with NE/HOU or BAL/HOU, then HOU wins the tie-breaker. We need either NE or BAL to fall back to our record AND Houston to lose one more than us.

Um, I could take this question a bit more seriously if it wasn't coming from someone who didn't participate in the sexual objectification of females with your ass avatar.

So, if it's necessary for you to basically be a total ****ing pig every time you post, I guess I'm allowed to occasionally use a homophobic slur when talking about Patriots fans.

I mean, seriously. You ****ing snowflake. Is it necessary for you to be such a total hypocrite? Seriously.

actually, considering the 50 mile an hour wind gusts yesterday, I feel like it was Reid and Mahomes' most efficient, situationally aware game of the season.

And I'm hypercritical of the coach. We went max protect and didn't try to go bombs away, it was just methodical and efficient. Getting first downs and running clock in the 4th. The fact that the defense is playing better allows that kind of efficiency to be even more effective.

No question the KC D has improved. Couple that with our very average O I don't see us scoring a lot of points. Maybe in the low/mid 20s.

You guys have the talent to score enough with wind, snow or rain.

Houston has to play the Tits twice. Either - or both - could be a loss.

How many times have we read this about the chiefs from fans?

It's going to be a good game. I never underestimate Belichick and Brady. But we have a good chance to actually walk in there and win one.

The trick with Belichick is to do enough to win without putting enough on tape for dissection in January. It's a fine line...

Amen.

Two games against the Raiders 68-19

Heh

To beat you guys we need to fully commit to running the football.

The NEP passing game is not consistent enough to be dependable and I think the pass D is a strength of KCs.

It’s crazy to think that if anything our D is now underrated, and our offense overrated. A perfect storm may be brewing where our Offense comes back into 2018 form and our D continues to improve. If that takes place, and it’s completely plausible that it could, there is no limit to what this team can accomplish.

That's why we HAVE to jump out to an early lead and make the Pats offense one dimensional. Make you guys try to beat us with the passing game.

Of course, Brady caught fire at the end of the game last night...one onside kick recovery and things could've been different. The Pats played like an AIDS filled dumpster fire for 55 min last night, then BAM, one score game.

If we win this game, I think we finish 12-4 with at least the 2 seed.

I think the Patriots may lose to the Bills also. Their offense has been horrific against much worse defenses than Buffalo. Bills probably lose to the Ravens though.

I think Houston has at least one more loss in them.

I don’t see Baltimore losing more than 1 more. However, a team built around designed runs for the QB is always vulnerable. One bad hit and their season is over.

I haven't read this whole thread so someone fill me in if I missed it. But please tell me Spags paid attention to Houston's game plan. They doubled Edelman and put a CB on White. Brady was lost without those two.

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If Mahomes plays the way he has the last 2 games, Chiefs can't win in NE.

I know he's the golden child around these parts, but he looked skiddish in the pocket yesterday and seemed a bit hobbled.

They've talked about playing a little more controlled, he looks like he's not really sure how to do that.

Didn't seem hobbled at all on the TD run.

You're imagining things.

Only issue with this offense last night was wind, drops and OL.

Watch him when he drops out to hand the ball off. He looks awkward doing it like he's favoring something.

He left some clean pockets last night too.

Don't need to read the whole thread, just this page. Tool you longer to post than it would to read.

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If the Chiefs don’t beat the Patriots next weekend, they should re-evaluate. Patriots are a pile of hot steaming shit right now.

I said it last night, Pat has to toe that line of controlled aggression, especially against NE/Baltimore.

Take the checkdown when it’s necessary to stay ahead of the chains against pressure, but if you’ve got Hill, Kelce, even Watkins one-on-one with a DB downfield, don’t be afraid to throw that bitch. We saw Houston have success with it last night.

Correct.

I see tons of posts in each game day thread that says, "If I were the (Insert Team), I would just keep running on KC until they stop it." What usually happens is that team tries some dumb pass or "tricky" run, instead of just continuing to pound the Chiefs where they have been successful. It happened yesterday too when Chucky decided to try some Jet Sweep on 4th and 1 instead of simply handing it off up the middle.

Difference is, NE WILL keep running wherever they are doing the most damage until KC proves they can stop it. I remember about 10 - 15 years ago watching them play on MNF, I think against the Saints, where the Patriots came out and threw it something like 20+ times in a row to start the game.

Let's troll these ****ers.

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This game will be about two guys. Edelman and White. Control those two and we win. Thats the formula, probably the simplest time to beat the Patriots.

Mathieu on White. Double Edelman.

There. That’s what you signed HB for, to do different things to help you win where needed. We need him to take away their RB passing game.

Based on "initial tests," Patriots C Ted Karras is believed to be dealing with an MCL sprain.

Karras was injured in Sunday night's lost to Houston. Monday's MRI should confirm the diagnosis. Per NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Patriots believe Karras' injury is "something he can return from." With starting center David Andrews (blood clots) already lost to injured reserve, the Patriots could be down to third-stringer James Ferentz against the Chiefs in Week 14. Losing Karras would be another blow to New England's increasingly stagnant offense.

Already done been banned.

KC struggled badly last year because NE took advantage of KC's horrid safety play. Berry was just a body in the AFC Championship game. Now that we have Mathieu and Thornhill added should help take out Edelman.

I like that plan.

Texans did a decent job on Edelman but man White tore it up, that worries me. It has been our glaring weakness on Defense.
Patriots had a bad rash of the flu going around, no one seems to be mentioning that. They will be healthier and motivated next week.
We will need our A game going into Foxboro.
This will be Spags biggest challenge so far this year. Lets hope he schemes it up!
Andy as well, its going to take guys like DRob and Watkins and RB to be named later. We know BB will focus on Tyreek and Kelce.

We should be playing for a bye this weekend. Goddamnit

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That plan is nails. And you can rely on Ward to shut down the outside.

The game will be decided on how well Breeland/Fuller handle their scrub WRs and the pass rush gets to Brady.

That was vs MN in 2006. Remember it well.

Yea our passing offense is close to the worst i've seen ironically enough since 2006. We'll get better but at this point we are what we are.

We don't have an outside so go nuts

If there ever was a 'prove it to me' game for Pat and Andy, it's this one. Time to get the monkey off their backs. I feel if they don't win this week, we're going nowhere in the playoffs.

LMAO Some Patriots fans are all but begging for Brown to be brought back and he posts this.

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So I’ve seen at least three Chiefs (Mahomes, Watkins, Darrel W.) post in the last several hours since last nights game how they are “rolling now”.

Seems like their feeling pretty confident in where they’re headed. TBD if that amounts to anything, but it’s clear that they view this Oakland game as the spark of the run.

And those stupid ****s burned KC to the ground for having Tyreek on the roster while they now beg on their knees to sign this dirtbag.

I'm curious if Clay will reveal what he heard happened over the bye?

So McCourty and Cowart (DT) will be out for the game?

No McCourty would be huge, no?

If somehow the Patriots acquired Tyreek Hill tomorrow, 99.8% of them would be on social media saying "OMG OMG we got Tyreek Hill LETS GO!!"

A lot of football fans are mouth-breathing oatmeal faces. A lot of people in general actually.

First off, if you think that this will require a record-setting offensive explosion to win, you haven't watched NE lately.

But the conditions were not ideal these past two games. That was not KC's offense at its full potential. Especially with Hill out vs the Chargers. I think the Titans game was a far better representation of what we'll see moving forward.

Please destroy the Pats. Their offense is terrible. Good d, but you can score enough. Get 'em.

Pats fans already salty.

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JC Jackson is a better man to man CB but Jason Mc plays better in zone. Just has more experience.

Going into Foxboro after the Patriots and Tom Brady got clowned on Sunday night is gonna be real tough.

They want to make a statement that everyone writing them off is dead wrong and they will show them.

We need to pressure Brady every goddamn play, no sitting back and letting him get comfortable and size up the defense.

He is going to use Edelman as a target 10-15 times against us. Just double team that guy at the LINE and smack the shit out of him!. Don't let him breath!

Also got to stop the run big time!

The Pats are going to stick 8-9 in the box and gang rush Mahomes. There is no doubt.

That is all!

The McCourty brothers have turned into the best combo in the league along with the rest of their DB/Safeties.

Their D is keeping them going, not their offense.

We'll mix it up vs Mahomes but the foundation of the game plan will be the same as the AFCCG. Double Tyreek. Lots of man coverage but mixing up the front. Blitz a little. Dare KC to run the football. Mahomes seems to be moving around OK so I don't think blitzing a lot regardless would be smart.

I read that the Patriots have won 21 consecutive games at home. Is that accurate?

If Spags is anything he's shown he's a guy who will blitz. Personally, I'm all for it so long as we don't sag 10 yards off like The Grandfather used to on the rare occasion he blitzed.

Brady has looked very pedestrian this year. Our defense, over the last few weeks, has been very opportunistic. If we can force just one turnover, I like our chances.

Inc playoffs, yes. Last home loss was vs CAR in 2017. Same year you guys beat us in the opener.

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I mean we kind of did the same thing.

The Chiefs running game is their kryptonite. It’s what worries me the most.

Their last loss was vs the Chiefs in 2017.

Did this move? Thought it was 4 last night.

I was mistaken. Thanks!

CP is going to be rocking and I can't wait to rock with ya'll.

That's so weird. Hope he makes another when we win their next preseason game.

It sure looked like Brady cared.