Key to D

Dare Bortles to beat you.

Still not sold on his flash in the pan fraudulent ass.

This will be a breakout game for the Chiefs D as they won't have to tackle with Jax falling down all over the place.

I’m really not sold on our 32.2.

You just gave me bad mental images.

I'd probably go pretty conservative on offense here this week. I know you wanna make big plays and such, but this d is pretty damn difficult.

If it’s rainy, and since we are winning this game, I can see it now, “but can he beat an elite defense when it’s not wet?!”

Jag fans are feeling a lot of confidence after seeing the Denver game. Think they can stop us. Think we can't stop them.

Offense had to grind it out Monday night and get some heroics from our boy to get the win. Hopefully they get it rolling this week and put the world on notice.

They won't have the crowd noise to **** with the offense like Denver did...

And Bortles will have to deal with the noise.

Gods don't slip

This team will have to play the run this week otherwise Jacksonville is that team that would probably hand it off 50 times.

They lost at home to the Titans starting Blaine Gabbert. Wut?

Good thing that's what this offseason was all about. LMAO

Yea the Titans front 7 actually stops the run.

Has Mahomes played in a heavy rain before? what was he like? Any Tech fans care to interject?

Hearing from a source that the Chiefs are planning on running a tackling drill in practice this week. I'm not concerned about stopping the run

They're also claiming that the Chiefs are in the refs' pockets.

Yep...clearly getting all the calls when you find yourself in 2nd and 30 on your last drive of the game. And 10 total penalties to 3. ROFL

How the hell did the Titans beat them with Blaine Gabbert?

Bad Bortles showed up.

They have faced old man Eli and injured Mariota. They ain't seen nothing like Mahomes.

You seem nice!

Gabbert got knocked out in the first 10 minutes. Mariota owns jags like we own the West.

Ford and Watkins are practicing.

Many say that you have to "keep Mahomes in the pocket."

But if you keep him in the pocket, he can still destroy your defense (see Niners and Steelers games)

I would probably think that too...if it was the only game I had seen.

Fans outside of the AFCW dont really comprehend the early season, thin air altitude issue. Chiefs looked lethargic...like every team that plays there the first quarter of the season.

The 5-11 Donks blew the doors off Dallas last year in game 3....42-17. They got shut out just 3 games later and topped 20 points just once in the next 10 games.

Denver was definitely game planning to bottle him up in the pocket, because he makes things happen when he scrambles. I would guess we're going to see that game plan most of the time going forward. He'll just need to learn to deal with it.

https://twitter.com/mattderrick/stat...434992640?s=21

:popcorn:

Best get the long cleats on

The narrative that he can't play from the pocket is false

If Jax only wants to play contain, be my guest

Keeping him in the pocket works if the coverage is strong. Denver seemed to do a pretty good job covering the KC receivers. I would think Jaguars will also do a good job as well. Mahomes is gonna have to find a way to pull some rabbits out of the hat.

It appeared that KC's WRs weren't really attempting to stretch the field too often...at least from my limited view from the broadcast.

It made me wonder if this was partially because of altitude coupled with Miller....and Watkins left early.

It definitely didn't look like the same offensive strategy from the first 3 weeks.

True, but that will work against almost all quarterbacks. The hard part is being able to do it

This is a game the offense will need to be on point if we’re gonna win. Their d is nasty and their running game can control the clock against us.

Hell yea. Talk that shit Reek.

Ramsey is the best corner in the league, but he talks way too much. I’d love to see Hill burn his ass.

That's great news. Sammy, numbers or not, opens up this offense too much to not have him against that defense

I think on the road in very loud environment against two very strong pass rushers in Miller and Chubb, Andy wanted to get the ball out of Pat’s hand ASAP. That is an understandable approach at this early point of his career.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over the past three games, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>&#39; CB Steven Nelson has only allowed 89 yards receiving on 17 targeted passes, per <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PFF</a>. <a href="https://t.co/fjBlVoF9Ty">pic.twitter.com/fjBlVoF9Ty</a></p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1047238608661483520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I’ve been defending this guy more than anybody on CP over the last couple seasons.

I noticed nobody said a word about how he played Monday night. Did he even allow a catch?

People like Billay and RunKC swear he sucks though.

He's had some pretty solid performances, which is more than Fuller can say so far.

Jags starting Center, LG and TE didn't practice today

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> explosive offense and the unstoppable defense of the <a href="https://twitter.com/Jaguars?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Jaguars</a> will go head-to-head this Sunday and <a href="https://twitter.com/jalenramsey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jalenramsey</a> knows that something’s gotta give. <br><br>TWENTYLAND Is UNINTERRUPTED <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MoreThanAnAthlete?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MoreThanAnAthlete</a> <a href="https://t.co/NJuc71ZYZq">pic.twitter.com/NJuc71ZYZq</a></p>&mdash; UNINTERRUPTED (@uninterrupted) <a href="https://twitter.com/uninterrupted/status/1047888407278407680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Fuller has been aight.

People are giving him crap for poor tackling, but he's a ****ing Corner back. There's this illusion that they're all suppose to tackle like Eric Berry.

That was a fun watch. Was kinda hoping he would come with some smack though.

Obliviously...ROFL

If Jamaal drove up to Ramsey in an Escalade, I wonder if Ramsey would notice it was Jamaal...or if he'd be oblivious to it due to being fixated on the Escalade...?

ITS YOUR ASS ON SUNDAY JALEN RAMSEY

Fuller's tackling attempts look a lot better when he uses proper form, which he did more against Denver.

The shoestring tackles are too high risk. Wrap up and take your lumps.

Yeah, he's been solid. I don't know that he's necessarily "good" but he's played well.

Really, our corners have been fine. They aren't great gamechangers by any stretch, but they're fine.

Really, if you have a guy at the top that would push them all down a spot, it would be a good group. I'm not really pointing into Peters on it, that ship has sailed.

They need to revamp the corners next year though.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you&#39;re sifting through waivers, one player who I believe has breakout potential in Week 4 is Courtland Sutton. Premium matchup against KC. Will see an uptick in TGT% with Jake Butt out. Will draw Steven Nelson (119.7 passer RTG allowed) on most routes. High TD confidence.</p>&mdash; Brad Evans (@YahooNoise) <a href="https://twitter.com/YahooNoise/status/1046122533722836992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 29, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nelson allowed a 119.7 passer rating on his ass before Monday. I’m glad he got to look better against the 32nd rated QB in passer rating.

He’s been better but I will still keep my position that Veach should not pay this guy.

Yeah, Nelson wasn't good prior to Denver. Everybody forgets how many zones he vacated because Murray was even worse at it.

Yeah, when they've played man, they haven't been bad.

Mixing is whats got them in trouble. I dunno if that's a communication thing or what.

I'm stealing that "Pressure, Pipes, and Diamonds" line from him for my hockey team. That's awesome..

I actually really like Jalen Ramsey one of those guys I wish played for this team.

Yeah, the best corner in football would fit pretty well here.

I liked him in the draft and just like what he brings beyond his physical talent. Still blows my mind a RB was drafted in front of him.

No way man, humble players talking real and giving respect is sooo much more rare and appealing than people talking shit. (especially in today's internet tough guy era).

What’s crazy is taking a RB in the top 5 looks really bad.

In hindsight, who would you take?

Zeke Elliott or Jalen Ramsey?
Leonard Fournette or Patrick Mahomes?
Saquon Barkley or the field?

Kareem Hunt was a 3rd rd pick and won tenrushifn title. Denver’s 3rd rd pick and undrafted back are in the top 5 in rushing.

I’ve said before many times that I would never take a RB in the top 5, maybe even 10. Only way is if you just think it’s a terrible class like 2013.

tenrushifn

The only team a team regretted not taking a RB had to be Arizona taking Levi Brown over Adrian Peterson, they probably would have won a bowl had they gone Peterson.

Ironically there weren’t even any RBs taken in that draft in the 1st Round.

What a complete shitty 1st round overall 2013 was.

Well, he's talking real and giving respect because the respect is due. That's very nice.

I was expecting shit talk, was looking forward to it even. But his response is in fact even better than shit talk because it means, to him at least, that our players are the real deal. That means a lot. He isn't willing to shit talk these guys to the media.

I saw some stats I wasn't aware of, even in todays flag happy game, Jacksonville is 31 in penalties and dead last in yards, so apparently they love getting a shit ton of penalties that could be very helpful.

Also if you look at Bortles splits, hes not a horrible QB at home...on the road though way worse player.

We’re gonna beat their ass.

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Jaguars star explains how his team plans to slow down the unstoppable Patrick Mahomes
Malik Jackson says there's one big thing the Jags need to do on Sunday to slow down Patrick Mahomes

by John Breech
@johnbreech
17h ago • 4 min read

Through four weeks this season, no team in the NFL has been able to slow down the Chiefs' offense.
Although the Broncos came close on Monday, the Chiefs still walked out of Denver with a 27-23 win, thanks in large part to Patrick Mahomes, who threw for 153 yards in the fourth quarter after throwing for just 151 yards over the first three quarters.
Despite "only" scoring 27 points, the Chiefs are still averaging 36.3 points per game this season, which leads the NFL. So far, no one has figured out how to stop their offense, but that could change this week when the Chiefs host the Jacksonville Jaguars, who currently have the NFL's best defense.

If the Jags are going to slow down the Chiefs' high-flying offense, there's one thing they're definitely going to have to do on Sunday, and Malik Jackson gave those details to our own Bill Reiter during Wednesday's episode of "Reiter's Block."
According to Jackson, the secret to beating Mahomes is to keep him in the pocket.

"What I see in Patrick Mahomes is that he's a great quarterback," Jackson said. "He's out here making a lot of plays on his own. He creates a lot of plays, he extends a lot of plays. I know as a defense, what we have to do is make sure we keep him in the pocket."
Jackson pointed out that the Broncos' defensive game plan fell apart when they started letting Mahomes get outside the pocket.
"On Monday, I was watching the game, and Denver, I think, did a poor job of keeping him in the pocket, allowing him to just escape to his left or his right, away from the blitz," Jackson said. "That's one thing that we have to change. I know he had almost 150-plus to 200 passing yards outside the pocket, so we have to make sure we have to keep him in the pocket."
One of the craziest plays in the Chiefs-Broncos game came when Mahomes got out of the pocket. On a third-and-5 in the fourth quarter, the Chiefs converted after Mahomes escaped the grasp of Von Miller and threw a LEFT-HANDED pass.


The way Jackson sees it, the only way to stop those plays is to make sure he's not out of the pocket.
"He creates a lot of plays, so it's up to us to do our jobs," Jackson said. "If we do our jobs, he can't create plays. We have to make sure we're where we're supposed to be, our eyes are where they're supposed to be at. We can't allow them to use [trick] plays to hurt us."
Speaking of trick plays, the Jaguars will be ready for Andy Reid to throw anything and everything at them.
"He's a great coach, he's done a lot of great things," Jackson said. "He has a huge playbook and he doesn't mind going in-depth into it, but we just practice how we usually practice. We understand their tendencies and we think we have a good idea of what they want to do."

Although this is a big game, Jackson said it's not going to be more or less intense than any other regular season game.
"We don't try to get hyped up or too low for teams," Jackson said. "We try to stay the same team. We don't worry about everybody else, we worry about ourselves. We understand the Kansas City Chiefs have a lot of great offensive weapons, but so do we, we have a lot of great defensive weapons, it should be a great weekend."
One thing Jackson definitely wants to do on Sunday is sack Mahomes.
"I saw how many sacks he was getting out of last week," Jackson said. "I saw how explosive he is, I saw people get hyped. It makes me wants to put my pads on and really let him feel me. I see he has a good offensive line that really gets hyped up and thinks they're hot stuff, so for me, it's Patrick Mahomes. To make a statement to the league and everyone else."
The one overlooked aspect of this game is probably the Jaguars offense. After putting up 503 yards in a 31-12 win over the Jets, Jackson thinks the unit is only going to get better.

"I think they're doing great," Jackson said of his team's offense. "I think we had one little hiccup against the Tennessee Titans, but other than that, we scored 30-plus points last week, 500-plus yards. In the first two weeks we went out there and did a lot of good things, so I think it's awesome."
Jackson also cautioned people not to overlook Blake Bortles.
"You get Patrick Mahomes winning four games this year, and you make him showtime and Blake goes to playoffs, the AFC championship and people keeping talking bad about him," Jackson said. "I don't get it."
To see the biggest showdown of Week 5, make sure to turn your TV to CBS. Jim Nantz, Tony Romo and Tracy Wolfson will be in Kansas City on Sunday for the 1 p.m. ET kickoff.

yes please keep him in the pocket, it will definitely work

If teams start doing that controlled rush thing where they are concerned with keeping him in the pocket that is actually going to be somewhat good because it should give him more time and he has no issues in the pocket at all.

1.) I guess I really don't understand what he is getting at. Ok, so Mahomes excels when extending plays... so you need to keep him in the pocket. Is there a way of effectively and consistently maintaining an improv-saavy, awesome scrambler like Mahomes within the confines of it? I mean, he will just scramble out if they try to do that...right? Or is he actually saying that keeping him in a clean pocket is safer than having him outside the pocket running for his life because he's more effective when he is scrambling? Because from what I've noticed, Patrick isn't exactly ineffective....at all....when throwing from the pocket. Yeah, keeping him from scrambling and making plays will be nice, for it will ensure that you don't put yourself on the highlight reel...but Mahomes can operate from the freaking pocket.

2.) Thank GOD we have Tony Romo as one of the broadcasters. I really, really like that guy. He's not obnoxious. He is cool to listen to and his insight of the game while it's unraveling is probably the best I've heard. I just love it when he is able to call the play before it happens. It's like a second sense to him. Watched his "A Football Life" the other day... dude is freaking cool. I can't wait to hear what he has to say about Mahomes.

You are a wise football mind, IMO...and I'm glad you posted this/feel this way, for I was thinking the same thing...so I'm glad I was right about it.

They want to keep him in the pocket because if he's scrambling out of the pocket then their CBs have to run with the WRs throughout the entire play. Keep him in the pocket and eventually your defensive line will get to him.

I don't think I've felt this way about a Chiefs game since the "no punt" game... aka the last time that I felt the Chiefs were playing for the Super Bowl AND stood a chance at reaching and winning one. I have had moments this week where I have felt so nervous that I almost feel queasy. AND I LOVE IT!!!! THE APATHY IS ****ING GONE, GONE, GONE!!!!

But God, this game... All this hype these past 4 weeks about Mahomes, Ramsey running his mouth about everyone this year (although he was vocally impressed with Mahomes's preseason bomb), the fact that I truly believe this D is the most legit that he will encounter in the NFL....if we get over THIS hurdle, people can shut the **** up and just accept that Mahomes, well.. THE CHIEFS are for real.


For ****'s sake, I don't want to feel like Carrie after she got the pig's blood spilled on her. Haven't been this emotionally invested in a game in over a decade.

I think through his 5 starts Mahomes has illustrated he takes what the D gives him and does whatever he needs to to succeed. I don't think it is one thing more than the other, pocket VS scramble, it is whatever it takes to get it done.

Him being in the pocket would be more of a concern to defend to me. You give him time and his ability to make reads with this offense usually would mean somebody will be open sometime, and it's a given he can get it to them anywhere. My only concern is him getting hurt obviously,and that would be either way.

Makes sense....

And I guess my initial thought is... they can keep him in the pocket all they want to, the dude's just gonna continue to scramble out before the DL gets to him, just like he did vs. Dungver.

I don't see them being successful at carrying out a D plan like this...

LMAO @ Jackson complaining that Bortles doesn't get the respect that Mahomes does.

Dude....i know you have eyes. Shut up.

Believe it or not, the Kansas Jayhawks actually gave Mahomes a lot of trouble by using a containment strategy with their pass rushers to keep him in the pocket. He had an awful game in 2015. In 2016 he lit them up for a quarter but began struggling as the game went along. Same containment strategy in both games.

I like to listen to Tony, he comes off unbiased and gives you a QB's version of what is going on.

The reason that the Jags defense worries me is because they have the defensive line that can get pressure without having to rush anyone. The LBs and DEs can play contain while the DTs are getting pressure up the middle.

I have a feeling that Erving is going to look like dog shit in this game.

I have no worries. Nothing but faith.

And if the Chiefs lose? Still don't care. We have a franchise QB. 1 regular season game is meaningless now.

It's not like the Alex Smith days where 1 game could be an indication of things to come. Nah. Now 1 game means 1 game.

I've had this pegged as a loss since the offseason.....so I'm not worried if they lose. I think we ****ing light up the Patriots though.

I think it’s a very meaningful game for Mahomes’ development. This will be the best defense he has ever played in his life. He will learn a heck of a lot from this game and it can help him down the road in playoff games against other elite defenses.

They better not touch my boy!

God I hope Sammy is healthy and ready to knock some heads Sunday. He really opened shit up, for it's a bitch having to cover Hill, Kelce and Watkins simultaneously and if they want to keep him in the pocket to do so, so be it... he will find one of them...or Sherman....or Harris...or Hunt...or Conley....or Robinson....

I think having Sammy in there makes a huge difference... yeah, you have to account for Hill and Kelce, but ****...you can't just neglect someone as talented as Sammy Watkins...a dude who was considered the "must have" WR prospect in his respective 2014 draft class...a class that consisted of:

#4 overall pick: Sammy Watkins
#7 Mike Evans
#12 ODB
#20 Brandon Cooks
#28 Kelvin Benjamin
#53 Davante Adams
#61 Allen Robinson
#91 John Brown
#90 Donte Moncrief
#118 Martavis Bryant


I mean, and there didn't really seem to be much debate as to which WR was going to be selected first. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that Sammy was the best WR and would be the first one off the board...despite some huge ODB fans pre-draft. This guy was assessed to be the best WR in that class and very well could have that reputation now if he had guys other than EJ Manuel, Tyrod Taylor and rookie Goff throwing to him...maybe we consistently see that from him this year.


The dude has to be freaking accounted for... he's not freaking Quincey Enunwa, Chris Hogan, Corey Campbell, Josh Doctson or someone completely underwhelming like those guys, for ****'s sake. He'd be a WR1 most everywhere else. With Ramsey likely battling Reek the majority of the game, having Sammy in there and torching inferior talent like AJ Bouye and Barry Church or whoever they put on him will be key. Could be a big game for him. And Patrick will find him.


Good God this offense was crafted perfectly when it comes to the skill positions.

(sidenote: the first two RB's selected in that 2014 draft were Bishop Sankey and Jeremy Hill :eek:)