I don't remember seeing anything in the preview about Lloyd, what does it show? At any rate its not looking good, Rip went too far and embarrassed his right hand man in front of the whole crew... Lloyds gonna turn against them IMO

I bet dwarf lady is gonna prove to be a tough matchup for Beth, she didn't blink in the face of Beths big talk... and she has waaay more money to boot

I'm thinking/hoping that Lloyd puts some energy into the kid and teaches him the ropes similarly to how he took Rip under his wing.

Because man - it's just the laziest of lazy writing to have him turn heel. Again - this dude murdered co-workers in cold blood, presumptively several of them, and never had an issue.

Now Rip is hard on him (something he KNEW Rip would do) and he's going to leave the reservation? That just doesn't make sense.

You can't spend 3 seasons demonstrating a guy's character and then just flip it overnight. Not for something that's fairly trivial in comparison to what he's looked past.

I'm just guessing of course, they could take his story any number of directions... but something is definitely brewing with him, they didn't have him get his ass kicked just to drop it, they're setting something up

The preview showed him in the stable talking to the kid and saying there’s no room for outcasts like us in the bunkhouse.

I think it’s more than that.

Everyone agreed Ryan Binghams character needed to die. Then he shows back up? And he’s being the same prick he was before.

The discipline is coming apart. And he sees Binghams character as a personification of the problems. And he was supposed to have hot lead in his dome. So he lashes out and catches the discipline that should have deaded Binghams character. And ancillary work, Costner comes unglued on him and gives him a little more discipline that should have got Binghams character dead.

So his whole belief structure is coming apart.

I don’t see the blonde chick as anything affecting Lloyd.

Wow, not sure how I missed that part of the preview... yep he's feeling unappreciated and cast aside

Lloyd briefly alluded to that. But Rip made a fair point - he isn't dead and therefore John Dutton doesn't want him to be. Again, if it's okay to kill for John, why isn't okay to let him live for John?

It's an underlying ethos that Lloyd has demonstrated for a long time and suddenly the underpinnings of it (John's word is law) don't apply?

Walker is a pretty boy douche but he's wearing the brand now. And yeah, I think they handed that out a little to freely, but it is what it is. But hey, if killing Lloyd gives Bryan more to do, I'm on board with it. I JUST realized last week that the guy who plays him is the same guy who played Midge's hipster boyfriend in Mad Men.

"You make the lie. You invent want."
"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie. There is no system. The universe is indifferent..."

"The cops....you can't go out there."
"You can't..."

I didn’t realize that either. Thats one of the best scenes in mad men. It’s just ****ing perfect. I rewatched Mad Men sometime this summer and there is some goddamned big headed philosophical dialogue in there. Pretty compelling shit.

Anyway Matter at hand. I think boiling it down to John’s Word is the law is handwaving some real shit that these guys built their life around. Technically, Rip is right, but I don’t have to suspend belief very much to adopt Lloyds frame of mind.

For 40 years if he does the work and keeps his shit together for John, life as he knows it is going to go on. Then all the sudden he does, and life how he knows it DOESN’T go on, it can be rattling. And Bless his heart, I live Lloyd but the character they’ve developed in the show isn’t curing cancer. And it’s difficult for most people to be objective about something close to them, anyway, I don’t have to work too hard to conclude Lloyd can’t see the forest for the trees, and it feels like the foundation his world is built on is coming apart. Some of that is the acting. That’s a hell of a performance he’s turned in since he decided to fight Ryan Bingham.

Last episode had so much Missoula in it.

The protest was on the street towards the back end of downtown Missoula. They briefly flashed a bar called the "Silver Dollar" which is a total shithole I spent many nights in. Cheap drinks and a good place to shoot pool. If you kept going down the street following the railroad tracks, there was the gym I used to train at, bare bones and totally awesome views of the mountains shown in the background of that protest.

Coster and Summer got in his truck in front of the bus station, which is near the center of downtown and you can't help but pass on your bar hoping night. Later Beth pulls into a parking garage in front of a restaurant called Wally and Buck. My wife is high school friends with the owners. We've spent some time with them when we were back in Missoula and I always enjoyed it because she's a good looking blonde. Woof woof!

Almost make me miss home.....but I have also heard they are honestly getting in influx of out of state people moving there because they think Yellowstone represents some outlaw "cowboy" shit that ACTUALLY happens in Montana. It doesn't, and your average farmer isn't good looking or rich.

I resemble that remark :D

Sorry, I meant super rich.

:D

It's called thinking with your dick. Pussy is man's greatest weakness.

And I'm pretty sure there is more black people on the show than in the entire state of Montana lol.

The guy who plays Jamie (Wes Bentley) is from Jonesboro, Arkansas and is a former heroin addict.

The guy who plays Lloyd is an actual former professional rodeo cowboy.

Costner, the guy who plays Chief Rainwater and the guy who plays Walker are all guitar players. The guy who plays Kayce is a drummer.

Walker is an actual country music performer. He's had a pretty long career prior to Yellowstone.

Not sure how into Red Dirt Country you are but he's a good listen.

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A little light reading

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ye...?ocid=msedgntp

Can someone fill me in on why Lloyd hates Walker so much? I know Walker refused to kill people for them. I remember all of that.

He stole the hot barrel girl from him.
BTW those barrel gals are hot trouble

Rip and Lloyd both hate Walker because he dishonored the brand and was supposed to be train stationed for it. The barrel piece of ass is just insult to injury.

This is pretty spot on. I hate this whole Rip\Lloyd thing. It really doesn't make sense and is annoying. Fine, Rip, punch him out and that should be that. Let Lloyd get his revenge on Walker some other way. Move on.

It makes no sense, Lloyd is going to be Rip's best man, which is a big deal. Now I guess he's just gonna throw that out the window cuz Lloyd for the first time ever "went against" the rules. Just dumb.

I feel like Lloyd is somehow gonna work with the boy and do a better job than Rip or something stupid like that. I dunno. Whatever.

I'll need to binge this thing when the season is over, like I mentioned before. Might make all this a little less stupid maybe...maybe.

Right now, I'm watching it because I have loved it to this point. Hopefully it gets back to making sense in that world.

Lloyd made a pass at Walker who refused him...happened off camera though...

Its definitely gonna be interesting to see where it goes, just hope Lloyd doesn't turn on them because he knows all the secrets

God this show sucks so hard now. First couple seasons were pretty good, now its just video of well trained horses doing the same tricks, the ranchhands with their dumb shenanigans and Beth being confrontational with everyone. Yeah we get it, she's such a bad bitch!

Yawn.

We'll give you a ride to the train station, hop in pal...

Yup. Story line got too crazy in season 2 and now it’s just a rambling mess that’s getting worse.

That's getting old and lame as well, but not at any fault of the show itself.

Near the Wyoming border

So far not good. Boring snore fest.

Are they going to have that stray kid go to school or just make him a murderer like RIP. I want the Duttons all dead. They are not likeable.

That kid is whiny soft bitch the antithesis of Rip and Kelsey Asbille is an Olivia Munn ringer

Dude is stretched too thin. He has two spinoffs AND Mayor of Kingstown spinning at the same time, . . . plus the two spinoffs is driving some of the main narrative [ie, the horsey tricks].

Think of this season like when The Cunninghams got a visit from Mork from Ork.

LMAO

Now John is gonna get romantic with the hippie girl

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Until they air it on the regular Paramount network, Tim McGraw can get shot off his horse and scalped for all I care... had it up to *here* by now with anything new and maybe cool becoming more exclusive and expensive than ever

Every slapdick cable channel wants into the "premium content" market these days... they can all eat shit

The frickin list of network subscriptions never ends. Only getting bigger and more expensive. Just pay 15 bucks a month for a Whatbox server and get everything you wanna watch from rarbg.

****ing ain’t fighting Lloyd. That dude took a beating and won the fight. LOL.

And Beth’s “I hope you die if ass cancer” line made me think the writers lurk on here.

Still very little in terms of plot advancement but I’m sure they’re headed somewhere. Or the writers took the summer off. Whatever.

I'm not much of a fan and only watch begrudgingly.

How the hell is guitar guy fighting when the Lloyd dude knifed him in the scene before?

This show is a greasy wet fart of drugstore cowboy cheese.

Oh and to save time have they thought of just sidling up to their enemies, shaking a cooler, and throwing snakes on them LMAO?

The best part of the season is the 6666 stuff. I'm still holding out for a Boots O'neal cameo. That's a cowboy.

I read online - I presume it's correct, Taylor Sheridan bought the 6666 Ranch, so that's kind of cool.

Yeah, it was dumb. At least they showed a bunch of blood there like the stab wound opened up.

You are a reerun on every single subject on this board LMAO

I'm all caught up and yeah not gonna lie, this season has been a disappointment so far

Can't believe they took all that extra time for a November release, and this is what they finally came up with... kinda feels like they're just spinning their wheels at this point, a story thats going nowhere

It would help if they stopped spending so much time on Jimmy, no one gives a damn about his story... lets get to the nitty gritty action for ****s sake

Yeah, I was kinda fired up when there was a possibility that Jimmy was going to die. And then again when it seemed like he was being written out.

This is a lot of meandering, to say the least. I almost wonder of Sheridan didn't realize how over the top they'd been for 3 seasons and that at some point they were going to need to come up for air.

Jimmy simply isn't an interesting character, he's just a sideshow, a time filler

They gotta stop spending so much time with him "learning the ropes" in Texas... its a great show when the Duttons are kicking someones ass, they need to get back to that

He was interesting for about half a season when he was actually making something interesting of himself.

Jimmy's rodeo career and quasi-redemption arc was interesting but nothing else related to him has been. I think they probably had something planned with that kinda nasty ex-stripper/cowgirl that just vanished (I guess the actress just pulled out of the series) and when that came apart they didn't have much to do with him.

Dumbest damn actress alive if she pulled out of this show over her contract or whatever, a role on this show is something to hang onto for dear life

If this is the best they can do with him, just ghost him for the rest of this season... then have him come back next year as some born again badass cowboy

Lets get back to the big money land developers, Rainwater and his crew, and the Duttons whipping someones ass... thats what makes this a great show

The Lloyd/Walker/Blonde Broad love triangle is just strange with Lloyd being old and Walker always insinuating he was getting rammed in the ass while he was in prison

That hot young thang EVER being interested in Lloyd is definitely stupid, but where in the hell did Walker ever talk about that?

Always talking about the big dog or bully, and the fact he's not a big or intimidating dude that would be an alpha in prison

Cole Hauser has that presence he's a badass mother****er in the show, Walker doesn't

I have no ****ing idea what you're going on about, paging Dr Freud...

Walker looks like a pussy, and doesn't come off that he'd be a guy people would be afraid of

They got a spinoff coming for the Four Sixes Ranch in Texas.

The creator bought that Ranch

That was her in last night's episode. Avery I think is her name. The girl Kayce talked to that Monica got jealous over. She was in the episode for about 20 seconds. Kayce said "everyone wondered where you went". She said she doesn't "believe in goodbye...she just leaves when its time" and that was it. At first I didn't even recognize her.

Part of it is that they came out swinging with the first episode. ****ing Casey in a full gunny suit just guarding shit all day every day. John mostly dead but not all dead.

Now Johns fighting dudes and Casey moved out. Jamie’s dad is A hamfisted play. Lot of dumb shit going in. But they’ve earned some rope to hang themselves. I’m not terribly invested in this being an all timer. **** man. I’ll just be happy watching Rip fight fools.

I feel like Rip is the only likable character, and sometimes even that’s a stretch.

This season sucks cowboy balls

He's a no nonsense badass. Anyone would want to have a guy like Rip in their corner.

On the other hand, he's just John Dutton's dog and he's a ruthless murderer.

Yep, and like a dog Rip's imprinted John as a father following him with fierce and unquestioned loyalty

Finally watched last night, missed Sunday obvious reasons.

This is ridiculous. We're 6 episodes in and quite literally NOTHING has happened. Well, nothing of consequence.

Lloyd and Walker fighting. OK. Big Deal.
John banging the annoying protester chick, which is not even believable. Beth telling her she hopes she dies of ass cancer did make me laugh though.
Jimmy in Texas. OK. Big deal.
Monica's annoying ass is now happy that they are moving away from the Ranch. OK. Big Deal.
Jamie's real dad story line...OK. Whatever. Big Deal.
Jamie and Beth, Beth hates Jamie, did you know that? Well, we reminded you this weekend. OK. Big Deal.

This show sucks this season. You could literally skip everything so far and not have missed anything interesting.

Yeah, he's been great, but this season even he feels kinda forced and not authentic.

The Jamie's dad thing is just god-awful.

Look, I like Will Patton as much as the next guy, but what the **** kind of wizard Svengali am I supposed to think this hayseed ex-convict is? The guy's suddenly a manipulative criminal mastermind and yet for a decade after his release he did nothing to try to find his son? This kid he says he intends to kill one of the most powerful families in the country for?

And I get that we've been conditioned to see Jaime as mentally soft, but literally 2 minutes before he pulls a gun on him with seething rage and some half-assed speech (that wasn't even all that convincing) is going to turn him into a sobbing mess?

The entire season has felt like filler to me. I don't understand their plan at all right now.

Lazy writing for sure. It's all just filler.

And now the kid they "adopted" looks to follow in the same footsteps. Now all of a sudden he wants to "be him when he grows up". Yeah. You and everyone else kid. Who wouldn't love to be a rich ranch owner that owns half of the most beautiful landscape in America.

And if they can just give me more 'bouncy' Beth, I'll forgive all of this.

Because she's right - she did get her boobs and a couple other people's in the process. And they just jiggle so very well...

They get to kill everyone they want with impunity and no media coverage.

In my own opinion, they do overdramatize Beth as a character. I understand the intention for having a female badass character on the show, especially around these male characters and the surroundings, but her behavior is getting pretty annoying..

Dallas would go off the rails during the middle of the season as well. Yellowstone kind of falling in that pattern.

It seems to me this happens every new season. Starts slow then finishes strong.

She's the antithesis of Jamie, but they're so much alike especially getting approval from John, and Beth lashes out because of that need to get praise from John

The problem is that she's being overexposed.

How much shit-talking can she do before she just becomes a dog yapping on a porch.

If they need 10 minutes of air-time filled, they just create some random conflict where Beth cusses a few times and makes mean squinty eyes at someone.

If they need another 10 minutes, Tyler Sheridan hops on a horse and they do some stuff. And that's after they put in 15 minutes of worthless Jimmy garbage.

Don't get me wrong, the whole exchange with Piper Perabo was pretty funny, but you're just burning more Beth capital without meaningfully advancing the plot. And at a point, you kinda get immune to Beth cussing and snarling.

Oh, and can we just kill Monica AND Tate at this point? Casey, Beth and Rip are too important to the plot to ace one of them. Nobody else is likely to put John on tilt.

So kill off Monica and Tate to drive some action. It's not like they add anything to the story anyway. Anything that needs a kid involved going forward can just use that Carter kid. He's more interesting than Tate and nobody can possibly be more irritating than Monica. "Oh yeah, she's teaching college again. Awesome! I hope she gets pissy looking and scolds Casey more for attempting to provide his family a life that's beyond most people's wildest dreams!"

Last year Costner was hinting he wanted to step way back on this series. The writers at the end of season 4 were kinda the write him off the bandwagon as they were not confident they would have him much for season 5. Then boom his movie pretty much bombs and he is back on board. So the season 5 opening episode and now they all survive and are struggling to write scripts on the go now. That's how I see it any way they didn't have enough commitment from Costner and are having to scramble now.

Yeah, season 4 felt to me like they didn't know who they'd have back and didn't figure they'd end up with everyone returning. So they wrote themselves an out.

With everyone coming back, the stakes weren't raised at all and they didn't seem to know where to go from there.

So like I said, time to kill Monica and Tate. Win/win!

You have it backwards. Casey didn’t want to go back. She wanted to stay. And it’s all his fault. Sounds like my sister.

Casey left to appease her.

When John told him he needs to think of a plan to get her back, he said "I think I have one but it will be hard for both of us..." and then told her he thought they should move off the ranch.

That whole "I told you not to come here - this place is evil!" "This place isn't evil, the people trying to take it from us are evil" exchange in the 2nd episode made it clear she wanted out and never really wanted to live there to begin with.

If you just start from the premise that Monica sucks and work backwards from there, things fall into place.

Nah. All the way back in season 1 Casey wanted no part of the ranch but she got enamored by it and he stayed kinda for her and kinda because he waxed her brother.

Started with her. Then she hated it and it was all his fault. So my sister in a nutshell

The reoccurring theme of the show is all the men are pussywhipped

Fair point. But I’m not telling that to Rip. Dude is a 6’ ball of fury.

In fairness - most are.

Biology is a bitch and testosterone is a hell of a drug...

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This quote reminds me of this scene in Ferris Bueller's Day Off

Speaking of Costner and being pussywhipped: I was flipping around TV the other night and the MLB Network was showing a movie with Costner Called "For the Love of the Game." It's a baseball movie, but not really. He plays a 40 year old pitcher throwing his last game in Yankee Stadium and he throws a perfect game. But the whole time he's thinking about this chick that constantly shat on him. Just an awful movie. Just awful.

Oh, and Dewey Cox is his catcher.

This last couple episodes: Isn't what Lloyd did to Walker attempted murder? And how could he fight in a corral after he'd been stitched up in his shoulder like that? Rip is psycho. Beth likes to talk dirty in business meetings. Casey's wife is a whiny little bitch. Jamie is an even bigger bitch. Somebody said it was hard to like any of them. That's true. Not many characters are likable.