I think I've already said that. But it's pretty clear that it's either nothing, or 100% totally ineffective because it keeps happening.

And even if that .008762% chance that he is pounding his fist into the boardroom table is right, he's never taken it to the public side and threatened to expose the league.

And that's what you say, and mean, while you're slamming your fist into the boardroom table. While you clearly have an Ironkey sitting on the table with some interesting like "Wiki" on the sticker affixed to it.

Perhaps with the Ironkey sitting there (with pictures from his last trip to Fiji) he may not have to yell or beat the table, he can just say, "At this point, after the officiating anomalies that have proven to, in my opinion, hurt my franchises chances to advance in the playoffs, I demand a 3rd party investigation into officiating anomalies or I'll have to find other means to protect my franchise's honor." They'll laugh, but the next day they'll also hear that you've retained the nation's foremost lawyer on game-fixing. The good news for Chunt is there ain't shit they can do about it, even if he follows through. And I don't believe for a second that these owners don't have dirt they all don't want exposed.

It's time. Wait, Chunt's a soccer guy! Shit!

Oh no....no...mother****er crossed the line here... :shake:

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You just DON'T go around wishing that kind of shit on to people.

Sorry, I don't believe in your (and BlackOps) idea that the NFL is like the WWE. Hunt is a businessman, he may protest, he may complain, but in the end he is not going to shit in the bed he sleeps in. There is too much money to be made. But that doesn't mean he doesn't fight it at all.

It is generally frowned upon to post rep like this.

And that's bullshit.

I agree, but I'm just stating fact. I just mentioned that someone posted neg rep and was blasted for it. And then got more neg rep.

Thanks for everything.

LOL, good response, I like it

While I don't reply to all of your 10 things, I read them faithfully and have been known to share them.

Thanks for all of the effort you put in to these (and your other posts), a longtime fan's input/opinion really does help the rest of us know that we're not crazy and "because Chiefs" is a real thing.

It's an incestuous circle jerk. In fact, I'm pretty sure the rep system is in place so the majority of these ****wads can cling to their musical chair in purgatory.

I was neg repped for sharing a 100%, no bullshit story about my experience babysitting for Tim Barnett, while I was a freshman at S.M. Northwest.

Don't worry about it.

There’s a zero percent chance I’m trading Peters. Advocating for this is some nonsense. The chiefs need more passionate defensive players.

Any scoops/rumblings at 1 Arrowhead Drive Bad Guy? Or are you out of the loop with your Chiefs intel?

I hope a certain coordinator is getting axed for a start....

Why would buffalo be laughing all the way to the podium with our pick? We have ****ing Mahomes they don't. I would do that trade over and over again no regrets

Obv, It was a stupid point

This^

Guys, he's playing the long game! Prepare for the Super Bowl in beautiful KC in year 2432!

Great Write up, and Thank you for your column's all year. They are a good read!!!

That's fair. And I agree, this is a business to him, not much more.

That's why I'd prefer that someone more like Kraft or Jones buy the team, they fight.

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Thanks George, your thoughts are always welcome, I will await 10 things about the draft ever though it will be only four.

You know what I never understood?

Why do the Chiefs keep guys past their time?

We see it happen all the ****ing time! And it drives me nuts!

Guys like Hali should’ve been cut long time ago. Same could be said for DJ.

Sutton should’ve been fired imo after that playoff collapse against the Colts.

Carl Peterson should’ve been fired a long time ago but he had to resign in order for us to get rid of him. Anyway, these are a few examples that I thought of off the top of my head that I thought I’d throw out there. I’m sure there are more.

And I really feel the same thing is gonna happen with Andy Reid. It just seems like things always have to get to the point where guys have to wear out their welcome here due to a lack of due diligence constantly being displayed by this organization.

How could you ever build a good team that way?

I agree with blowfish. I’d trade him.

I’d rather have a more well rounded corner. Give me a guy that could cover, tackle, has exceptional ball skills and is not a head case.

You make it sound so easy. Basically give me a flawless corner so I can trade my young stud who can mature for someone else.

No freaking chance. The defense needs more Marcus Peters.

Good luck finding one in the draft

I'd rather use that draft pick on a young pass rusher or other elite front 7 player. Peters has looked like his old self since his suspension and I commend him for going back to what worked for him. If he plays with that fire he has shown since the Chargers game he is a keeper for life


And I'm a guy who felt he was mentally slacking off this year and strongly disagrees with kneeling.

I haven’t gotten any intel in about 4 years.

I'm there as well. Keep Peters.

I think we should trade Peters so instead of just getting torched on one side of the field it can be both.

Peters is the one who tried to put the whole city on his back going for that strip and score in the clutch, and he damn near pulled it off. **** anything to do with getting rid of him.

Thanks George. I'm actually glad I got called by the ex to help her with a project rather than watch the game.

I can see both sides of this issue. The pro's for Peters are, he's still young. He is a ball hawk, and can flip a game for you. That is a rare commodity, so rare in fact, that if we did trade him I'd accept nothing less than a first rounder.

The cons are, he does not tackle in run support. He makes "business decisions." He is insubordinate and does not take coaching. He is irrationally emotional and has as great of an opportunity to flip a game negatively as positively because of his lack of maturity and restraint under adversity. He is also a potential locker room cancer, much like Larry Johnson was during his prime years here.

The only saving grace if they keep him is, Eric Berry has shown the ability to keep Peters focused and somewhat in check. When Berry has been out, Peters has been a loose cannon.

As I've said all year, The Peters Givith, The Peters Taketh Away. He's perhaps the most bi-polar player the Chiefs have had since Dale Carter.

I'll bet on Sunday he went to his safe room at home in Dallas and took a treasure bath!

Nice work George but I'm not near as doom and gloom as you are about next season.

Not sure why you say Buffalo will be laughing all the way to the podium with our pick? From what I have seen in Mahomes so far its looks like he will be well worth the 2 1st round picks.

Also I think using the 2 1st rounders on a QB in the draft kind of flies in the face of Hunt doesn't care about winning narrative.

We need to fix the defense and fire Sutton but we are in pretty good shape talent and $ wise if we are smart this off season.

Veach is going to be key to this off season.

Ill take a guy like Peters who cares too damn much over all the other slaptastic pieces of shit that played in our secondary this year.

Peters value is at a premium right now; with him the defense still sucks but is in need of a major overhaul.

What difference does it make if we keep him provided that the defense still sucks? They’re still gonna suck anyway provided that they keep Sutton. Peters is only one guy. One piece to the puzzle that isn’t even as important compared to other areas of the defense like def coordinator, pass rusher, etc.

The message is quite simple defense needs a rebuild and at this point in time it’s about getting our priorities in order. They could trade Peters and maybe get a 1st rounder for him? That would be excellent value and I’d do it in a heartbeat if it means getting a top pass rusher through the draft. Even if we can’t find a better corner to replace him, we could still get excellent value for him in return and address other important areas of the defense. Jmo.

*Besides we shouldn’t even be thinking about keeping Peters at this point. We should be thinking about stripping this whole defense down and rebuilding it from the bottom up. We just have to rebuild there and in order to do that, we need the best possible value by getting the best draft pick possible or trying to as many draft picks as possible. You want good value? You need to give up something to get something good in return. That’s how it goes sometimes. Something has to give.

Heck, I’d Trade him and Alex Smith to Cleveland.

Good idea. Lets just completely rip the ass out of this defense instead of supplementing the 5 talented guys we already have.

Look at the deal from Buffalo's perspective. They just had to move down 17 spots in last year's draft for flipping first round spots with us. With our pick last year, they took cornerback TreDavious White from LSU. So they got a shut down starting corner. They parlayed the number three pick we sent them by moving that pick to the LA Rams to move up in the second round to take wide receiver Zay Jones.

And they get our only first round pick (so far) in the upcoming 2018 draft. We don't know exactly where that pick will be, but probably around 27 again.

When the Bills played the Chiefs this season, they came to Arrowhead and beat us in our own house. We didn't even play the guy we moved up to draft. Zay Jones had a TD catch to start the game and give the Bills a lead. White had the game snuffing interception on Alex Smith to ice the game.

The Bills went as far as we did in the Playoffs this year. And they have our number one pick going in to this draft. At this point we don't know who they'll take with that pick, or if they deal it to move up in the 2018 draft themselves, as they'll still have their number one pick as well.

The guy we got for the pick played in one game this season in a meaningless game.

So, as far as 2017 goes, the Bills definitely got the better of the deal in terms of impact. Bills plugged two glaring needs, one on offense, and one on defense, and have two first round picks as draft capital in 2018.

Now, if Mahomes ends up being the savior of this franchise and a marquee player for ten years, then yes, the trade will be well worth it. But up to this point in the exchange, the Bills have definitely enjoyed a more immediate positive impact.

The true long term value of the trade and its full results are still pending. And the Chiefs may get a first round pick back for 2018 by dealing Alex or other players. It's a long way to June.

The amusing thing to me is, both GMs who consummated the trade both got canned immediately afterwards. That tells me there may have been some discontent with the arrangement in both camps.

lol :clap:

:clap: ROFL

Which 5 are you talking about?

The D isn't that bad. How about keep our young talented defenders, release DJ and Hali, draft defenders, maybe get someone in FA, then find a new DC. They shouldn't have to hold teams to 14ppg considering the talent we have on the other side of the ball.

It comes back to the ownership. Jerry Jones, The Rooneys, Robert Kraft, Al Davis back in his prime, you think those guys would even let Andy Reid even back to the locker room after giving up a 21-3 lead at halftime against the shitty playoff team this year? Andy Reid should be fired immediately for that total team loss. But Clark does not care if we win superbowls or not, i've said this for 5 years now being apart of this board, he sees the chiefs as another asset in his portfolio. He does not give a shit if we win superbowls or not, he hands the keys to the gm/hc and says ok talk to you next month thanks.

Jones, Houston, Ragland, Peters, Berry.

:facepalm:

How am I incorrect? The Hunts fly in sunday morning and fly back to dallas sunday afternoon. They dont care whats going on here. They have their mls team, a shit ton of real estate, the chiefs, and god knows what else, they care about the bottom line. They dont come to the stadium everyday and try and figure out how to make this team better. Theyre sitting at dallas country club checking their bank accounts sitting at the pool. Prove me wrong

Treasure Bath!!!

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Well first off you have no "proof" of anything its just conjecture. Your comments about sitting around checking their bank account is nothing but sour grapes nonsense because your mad the team lost.

I could easily argue Clark has done what he needs to do, he is paying top money for coaches and players and he signed off on giving 2 1st round draft picks for a franchise QB.

All you are doing is barking the same old nonsense regardless off whats actually been taking place.

I am fully aware of our teams failures but guess what, a ton of that blame goes on the QB and we will have a new one.

In a nutshell your argument is because the latest result was the same (playoff loss) it means the methods and standards are all just the same but in reality there is proof in Mahomes that there has in fact been a change in method and belief.

We have a very young and pretty talented offense, we need to retool on defense.

Clark didn't give Hali a DJ those terrible contracts and he didn't blow Houston's knee out 2 years ago or Eric Berry's Achilles. He did however ensure Berry was resigned even though it was expensive.

I get it we lost a game in epic fashion, again. I was at the ****ing game, it sucked.

The reality is there is a really bright future with this team if they hit on this next off season.

Yep. One side of the ball is good. Get a new DC and a bit more talent and we'll be off to a very good start. If we can just get this defense to be middle of the pack- I think it will be enough to be in the hunt for real.

I've made suggestions to let Clark know the natives are upset, Boycotting a game, no parking revenues. and **** his threats to move...Hunt Midwest would crash and burn...

Peters isn't going anywhere without his replacement coming in trade. Big shoes to fill IMHO

What the **** is this shit?

Trading Peters would be absolutely ****ing stupid.

Also, I'm ****ing tired of hearing how "Great" John Dorsey was as a GM, when he ****ed up time and time and time again.

3rd rounder on Russell, 3rd rounder for Maclin, 6th rounder for Maclin, shitty ****ing free agency deals that left more than $70 million in Dead Cap Space in 2017 with more in 2018.

Had Dorsey been a competent GM that drafted well and avoided big time contracts in Free Agency, this team would likely have more depth and would have been able to survive all of their injuries to starters.

Guys like Sorensen, Murray, Jarvis Jenkins, Bryan Witzmann, Demetrious Harris and Orson Charles should be fringe roster guys, not guys that see high snap counts each week.

Veach has got his work cut out for him this offseason and trading Peters would be the worst way to start out the new League Year.

I disagree. This defense is horrible. The only thing that justifies Sutton keeping his job is the amount of ppg his defenses give up. But still.....I’m not so sure about that and I’ll get to that later.

if you really look at this defense, they give up yards at will. So easy to knock off and push around, lacks attitude, adjustments, players aren’t put into position to succeed, etc. Yeah there is some good talent here and there but also some dead weight as well.

*But yeah I’ve had it though with this defense because blowing two leads in the playoffs of a combined 46 points definitely outweighs the average amount of ppg they give up in the regular season.

Maybe keeping our young def players is or isn’t the better option? But we do need draft picks, especially a 1st rounder since we compromised our own to Buffalo for Mahomes. Gotta give up something to get something sometimes and maybe we are better off trading one of our young players?

When a house collapses, what do you do? Patch it up here and there?! No. You gotta build it all over again! Same concept with the defense.

yeah actually we got lucky because we had a legit Gm for a few years that realized this is a qb league and if you don't have a top 5 qb you're not winning shit

Where was Clark telling the previous 25 years to draft a qb?

If I were to write a ten things article, it would just be the word **** over and over.

Clark hasn't been in charge the last 25 years. Good grief man what difference does it make now?

Can't people just enjoy the ****ing fact we have a top notch young stud QB about to take over?

Good grief we knew we weren't winning the goddamn SB this year so stop acting like this loss was the end of the world.

My biggest fear is we would make it far enough into the playoffs and lose a close AFCCG and that might convince them to keep Smith.

Problem solved.

The future start NOW.

Rep...

It's a joke dude. Pull the stick out of your ass.

I tend to agree with this. Hope Sutton goes though. He should.

If the Chiefs traded a young stud corner, and all they got back was a first rounder, which was their original investment, then the entire front office should be wiped out, again.

The run support stuff is so over the top. There are TONS of top corners over the years that didn't offer much in run support. They also didn't offer Peters ability to strip the ball.

Yes, he has bouts of immaturity on the field. However, I will trade that any day for the passion and the playmaking ability he has. He's a rare breed.

Ripping on Clark Hunt is just ridiculous too.

Clark has spent, and spent, and spent on this team, coaches, front office. He's done everything he can as an owner.

Clark does spend on his team but like many other owners may have difficulty in deciding when to move on and spend on the next chapter. That’s one of the reasons that makes Belichick great, no stupid family locker room, soft team talk, just get it done or you are out. To Clark’s credit he probably realized that Dorsey was handing out unreasonable contracts for undeserving performances and canned him. It is a different story with Reid though, will be interesting to see what Clark does if we don’t win another playoff game in the next 2 years.

:rolleyes:

Not even close. He's a ****ing pussy who demands nothing from his employees, and gets punked in the boardroom like the little bitch he is. Compare him to the owners who have teams that go to SBs, even if they're quiet, and you see owners who demand performance from their organization. Clark demands nothing after the NFL gives him his check.

And Dare I mention that he's not doing a ****ing thing about the calls in the last two playoff games? And don't give us any bullshit about he's doing it in private, he's not doing shit unless he let's us know he's doing something. Any real man would stand up for his team even if he can't change the past.

He's a cuck, he's only concerned about getting the league's annual cheese handout, and he's loved by the under-performing pieces of shit who work for him, because they get to stay lazy.

The **** he's done everything!

Is it just me or is the word "cuck" being way overused?

No, it's not just you, it needs to go away.

I wish the filter changed "cuck" to "the person who wrote this is a ****ing idiot"

It's accurate, he stands by while watching his team getting screwed.

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This is hilarious.

"He's doing nothing about the calls in the playoff game." First, how the **** would you, I or anyone else know what he's doing? Second, what is he going to do about blown calls?

Yeah, he cares so little about what do that he just fired Dorsey for the hell of it?

Clark's job is to hire smart people, put them in charge, cut the checks and get the **** out of the way and he's done that.

The only thing accurate here is you're ****ing stupid.

This is KC. You're a ****ing genius when you're winning and runny dog shit when you're not.

I actually took Reid's comment about not wanting to get fined as a passive aggressive way of saying the refs screwed us over. That was good enough for me. The league and the media all know that the refs screwed the Chiefs. Reid just found a way to say that he knew it without giving the league the chance to fine him for it.

I'm fairly certain you have the power to make that happen

In NFL history, only 4 teams have lost a playoff game when leading by 18 at halftime

2 of those teams were chiefs.

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True, Peters clearly had a fresh attitude after the benching and again looked like the guy from the previous 2 years

Yes but there was reports that after the Titans game he was in an altercation with a Chiefs staff member in the locker room. So...

If they can keep a lid on him and he helps win games and not lose games, I'm all for keeping him. If he goes Disgruntled Postal Employee, they'll have to cut him loose. Can't have inmates running the asylum.

While I have been critical of Peters and his tackling, on the final series, I saw a DB blitz and take down the runner behind the line of scrimmage. Yeah, it's cherry picking and there are times where he goes for the ball and gives up yards. At least he is trying to make a play instead of standing around watching someone else do it. I can still see the batted pass where a Chief was standing by Mariota when he threw the ball; he pushed Mariota and turned his back on the play. Pay attention until the whistle blows and maybe he could have prevented the TD. The biggest problem with the defense, IMO, is that they play like a bunch of individuals; never trusting the player next to them and are constantly out of position.

Great Final 10 things, George.

He is one of those guys that, even at his calmest, will have the occasional outburst... as long as he keeps playing at an all-pro level, they can deal with it

Clark loves your type... He does nothing but you're 100% sure he is. He makes one move, then nothing. I get hiring smart people then leaving them alone, I do it personally, but I sure as hell don't check out for five ****ing years! And I sure as hell go to bat for my people when they're ****ed-over. Maybe some year you'll decide to assume if you see nothing happening that pretty-much nothing is happening. In the case of Clark it's probably because the Krafts and the Joneses will tell him to be like his father and sit in the corner, the passionate owners are talking.

Clark's a do-nothing ass, in keeping with the family tradition of just being happy with the free money.

And you're resting your case on the Dorsey firing, really? LMAO LOL, I'll counter that with Sutton still being here...

Yeah, he's being silent because he's not doing a thing...

You're ****ing insufferable.

I'm not resting my case on anything. If you didn't have your head shoved so far up your ass, you'd see that Clark has done plenty. He's paid Reid like a top 4 coach in the league. He's shelled out massive contracts to keep players here that the GM's wanted to keep. He's approved trading a future first rounder to get the QBOTF. He's paid his front office people and cut bait with some, which cost him millions, when he didn't like how things were going.

Stating that Clark Hunt sits on his ass doing nothing is about the dumbest take on this board that's filled with tons of them.

OMG, the Clarks lost to the Colt in an epically embarrassing loss, the Clarks lost to the Steelers (getting ****ed-over the entire game) and he clearly did nothing, now the Clarks lost (again) in epically embarrassing fashion and you think he's done everything an owner can do to win? Seriously? Just because he's made symbolic moves, moves that proves he's not dead, but "everything", "a lot", or "enough" aren't even close.

Do you read the BS you type? I get blind loyalty, we're all Chiefs fans, but it's time to wake up and realize that this would never happen in the Rooney or the Kraft house!

Yep. Clark did nothing after that loss. He didn't approve trading a future first for the QBOTF.

Do you read the bullshit you write? You speak in absolutes like you know how owners handle Goodell behind closed doors or how they handle the refs behind closed doors.

Wouldn't happen with Kraft's or Rooney's? What the **** does this even mean? The Rooney's never made waves with the NFL, ever. The only reason Kraft did is because of Brady. That's it. When has Kraft went after the NFL because of officiating? He hasn't.

This isn't about blind loyalty. This is you, being a stupid ****, trying to convince me, that Clark Hunt basically does nothing, which is unequivocally untrue. He spends money, he hires talented people, he pays talented players and you're arguing with me that he doesn't do enough behind the scenes, like you know for certain.