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What the ****?!?!

The one thing Dorsey sucked at was managing the cap.

WTF is goin on here?

is this about flirting with goin back to GB?

4 more years....of Alex

And if you fire the best Gm the team has had in finding players in basically my lifetime over Jeremy Maclin you're a shit owner.

This will prove to be a terrible move by the Chiefs, IMO. This could set back the entire franchise, including Patrick Mahomes.

F**K.

because it's one of my all time favorites:

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LeSean McCoy is a ****ing idiot, for whatever that's worth.

Has that man ever said anything where you though "wow...that's a great deal of insight LeSean, thank you"? Was it the assault charges? The twitter fights? The random accusations of racism? The 'shorties party'? Tell me what it is about LeSean goddamn McCoy that makes him such an outstanding judge of character. What skills has this ****ing idiot demonstrated that makes you comfortable believing that he's a strong judge of executive candidates?

Are they similar to the ones that Tony Gonzalez showed off when he backed Tyler goddamn Thigpen as a quarterback?

Like I goddamn care what LeSean McCoy thinks about the pizza man, let alone a potential general manager. Guy doesn't know shit about shit - he runs fast or he'd be a grocery bagger somewhere.

Yeah, we extended Andy Reid!

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/092010/128...-kick-fail.gif

Pioli was excellent at this.

Basically, the Chiefs haven't had a GM who could build a complete roster since the 1970's. Dorsey proved he could do that. The reaction that's followed this announcement makes complete and utter sense.

I'm just waiting for the news of the day...

Alex Smith signs a 4/60 extension

Exactly

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

Why? Reid is still the coach. He's the one that's coaching Mahomes not Dorsey

Reid didn't want Mahomes?

Keitzman spinning like Dorsey was a fool & made the Mahomes trade without Reid's & Hunt's ok.


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It was a complete disaster only one year. He went 4-12 once.

He had been essentially the GM since 2001. So yeah, no he was not a complete disaster or even close to it as a GM.
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.....and your Gates sammich even closer.

Could set back?

Talent is the lifeblood of a team, we're ****ed. Reid was a train wreck with full power in Philly.

Pretty much.

Man people going off the deep end acting like we just cut Smith and we're left with Palko or something.

The Chiefs giveth, the Chiefs taketh away

Andy not want a rookie qb?

Reid had to be at least okay with this move or he wouldn't have signed the extension. If it's about the cap, you bring in a better cap specialist. Stunning move. Can't believe it was about Maclin, either. If Reid really wanted to keep Maclin, I just don't think Dorsey would have cut him.

If Reid wanted GM duties to stay, then Hunt should have extended Dorsey and let Reid walk. Ugh! I hate this.

Dorsey was the guy bringing the talent and without that, the team falls apart.

Exactly. It's likewith the Maclin release. Overreaction at first than comes to find out hey maybe we did the best thing. But releasing Dorsey they better have a better GM than him like Miles Holmgren or something

Dorsey's name has been mentioned as the successor to Ted Thompson in GB for over a year now. A GM with two years left on deal typically doesn't get mentioned in rumors like that unless there's some truth to them.

Building a roster > Cap management

It's not just the Maclin thing. It's what forced the Maclin cut. Dorsey wasn't good at managing the cap and if not for Dwayne bowe getting caught with weed, our cap situation would be even worse than it is.
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Exactly.

Those things go hand in hand. You have to manage the cap well to build a great roster over the long haul.
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Dorsey and Teid report to Hunt. So Hunt would have to be okay with it. They were all in the draft room together

Most of the front office is gone since the end of the season some of the scouts too. You tell me what happened I think it's pretty obvious.

Oh look Eagles cast offs

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2017/...es-promotions/

ROFL

Get outta here with that. Not happening. :grovel:

Andy forced it.

The fact that it was announced simultaneously with the extension isn't a coincidence.

Andy didn't just sign off on it, he was the catalyst.

one step forward, two steps back

same as it ever was.

Definitely a Reid power move


Put up or shut up andy

Look, I've been a huge Dorsey proponent and it's easy to look at his accomplishment and how they've positively impacted the Chiefs organization.

But, IMO, this move, while shocking, shouldn't be unexpected.

The Chiefs dumped Trip McCracken and Will Lewis and dumped some scouts. Dorsey has clearly made some errors during his tenure including Dunta Robinson, Vance Walker, Dwayne Bowe, Jeremy Maclin and Mike McGlynn, not to mention being punked by Justin Houston and Eric Berry's agents.

Additionally, this firing occurred just two days after it was revealed the Jeremy Maclin played through a groin injury, the same Maclin that was released by Dorsey via voicemail. The Chiefs cap is a disaster, thanks to stupid deals to Tamba Hali (after taking a $4 million dollar cap hit), cutting Jaye Howard just a year after extending him, Maclin's deal, etc.

I don't know if the Maclin reveal was the proverbial "Straw that broke the camel's back", but it wouldn't be surprising.

I don't know, at this point, how it makes the team better in the short term and long term, but I can understand why it was done, especially if Dorsey had his sights on replacing Ted Thompson eventually.

Or Reid was good at making those players Dorsey brought in better than they actually are. You know...what he's been doing his whole career. Like I said, Reid has been a GM since 2001, he had one bad year. I'd rather have him than Dorsey.
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lolwut look at the Eagles drafts the last several years under Reid. They drafted a 27 year old guard in the first round and he made an offensive line coach his DC.

So the Chiefs are ****ed?


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Everyone is speculating that Veach will be the next GM. Former Eagles reporters are saying and speculating

Well, if we're gonna clean out the front office. Get rid of Mark Donovan too. That guy is a stuffed shirt.

This

Maclin, the cap issue, the Mahomes trade...none of those explanations make sense. It is either 1) Reid wants to be GM or 2) Dorsey has let it be known he is going back to Green Bay and Reid wants to grab some particular replacement while he's available.

Number 2 seems a stretch.

Wt ffffffffffff

So you believe that Reid essentially said "I won't sign an extension if John Dorsey remains as the GM?".

Man, that seems like a stretch.

It's not a stretch of it's been floated around for 2 years now!!

Exactly. I don't give a shit what happened before that. The end was awful.

Reid has already publicly endorsed Mahomes as a guy he was lusty over.

I think the opposite might be true. Dorsey was the Smith backer.

Clark probably read that peice on O'Callahan(SP?) and was like Fat Scott was a good dude. Lets bring him back

Perfect

I just pray to god that Mahomes wasn't a Dorsey thing, and now KC is "stuck" with him.

There goes my 2017 Adopt a Chief. Son of a bitch! ROFL

Pretty much this.

This is just dreadful news

We're ****ing cursed man. Absolutely no doubt about it.

And yet in the last few years he still only had one season under .500.

Reid is proven, Dorsey still isn't. He wants to be the guy and that's why the GB rumors popped up. In his previous tenure in Green Bay, he was 3rd in command. With the chiefs he was 3rd in command. Unless you're going to fire Reid, Dorsey was going to leave.
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did jed york buy the chiefs.

The Mahomes theory is dumb. If Andy didn't want Mahomes, he wouldn't have signed the extension to develop him.

Maclin fallout.

This just doesn't seem to make any sense. Unbelievable, and I am flabbergasted.

So Maclin and Dorsey gone. Who's next?

"That's Brett Favre. I want him."

ROFL ... it's happening all over again???? :deevee:

Reid wanted Mahomes. Question is did Dorsey really want him?

Dorsey isn't proven? :facepalm:

The guy is a ****ing phenomenal drafter. Give me a ****ing break

waiting on Goodell to penalize the Chiefs two 2nd round picks for Maclin playing with a torn groin then being released.

And Dorsey signed 50 year old tamba hali to an awful ass contract. Not to mention his other bad contracts. It goes both ways.
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Smith

This seems more likely than Reid being in Smith's court.

Reid may have wanted Maclin to stay and favored cutting someone else.

Reid has had full power since day 1. He hired Dorsey. Reid is the one who pushed for the Alex trade. Reid is the one who pushed for Mahomes. Whoever they bring in for GM will be answering to Reid.

Could be that they saw Dorsey as an excellent scout but as a poor manager of the cap and the nuances of negotiation (Emanuel Sanders negotiation, Maclin tampering, Tamba Hali contract snafu, waiting too long on deals for Berry and Houston, cutting Maclin). Or maybe Dorsey wanted more control and they weren't willing to give it to him. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out...