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Deberg_1990 10-30-2016 12:48 PM

Looks like they are both about even overall. Each has his own strengths and weaknesses

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 01:00 PM

Boom! Foles is back!

hometeam 10-30-2016 01:07 PM

foles ballin out of control

Mr. Plow 10-30-2016 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12514956)
Please bring your common sense around more. This place needs it.

LMAO

ToxSocks 10-30-2016 01:09 PM

He's Kyle Orton part II.

NWTF 10-30-2016 01:16 PM

Its tough to bench Smith, he hasnt played bad. Its hard to say whos better than who, but

I do think Foles makes the O a little more dangerous to face. Im in the camp that Foles may lower the floor a bit for the Chiefs on his bad days, but he also raises the ceiling. I think its hard to argue against that.

Basically if you feel this team can go all the way with Smith, stick with Smith. If not then Foles the choice.

Its similar to the Smith/Keapernick swap back in SF. Except Foles is a much better QB than Kap. So was Smith, but I think Harbaugh and staff felt they had reached the ceiling with Smith, and figured it was worth the gamble on Kaps potential. It almost worked.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12514956)
Please bring your common sense around more. This place needs it.

****ing nostrodumbass

Iconic 10-30-2016 01:28 PM

Foles is going to win you games by himself. Smith will never do that.

rico 10-30-2016 01:32 PM

This team is unbelievably more fun to watch with Foles.

New World Order 10-30-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12515557)
This team is unbelievably more fun to watch with Foles.


Just said the same thing.

Chromatic 10-30-2016 01:52 PM

Oh shit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwCl9MWVUAAayjg.jpg

dannybcaitlyn 10-30-2016 01:53 PM

With a week of practice with the ones Foles should improve even more for the next game. Defenses will have to play us honest.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 12515496)
Foles is going to win you games by himself. Smith will never do that.

Stupid.

ToxSocks 10-30-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 12515856)

Uh oh....

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12515872)
With a week of practice with the ones Foles should improve even more for the next game. Defenses will have to play us honest.

What happens when teams adjust for Foles' playing style? We see this every year with new quarterbacks...teams get film after a few games and the honeymoon period ends.

Smith is your starting QB , get used to it

Chromatic 10-30-2016 01:56 PM

His wife is throwing a fit on her account, saying that's a flag for anyone else but her poor poor hubby etc

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromatic (Post 12515911)
His wife is throwing a fit on her account, saying that's a flag for anyone else but her poor poor hubby etc

Don't care. Foles gives us a NFL level offense. We have options...

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12515956)
Don't care. Foles gives us a NFL level offense. We have options...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats...877/nick-foles

Do you know something more than NFL coaches and GM's?
A few good passes against a bad team doesn't qualify as starter level quality

lewdog 10-30-2016 02:07 PM

PawnHomer

Rams Fan 10-30-2016 02:08 PM

You guys are ****ing crazy if you think at this point in their careers Smith isn't better than Foles.

Tribal Warfare 10-30-2016 02:09 PM

All aboard the FOLES TRAIN!!!!!!!

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:09 PM

The game reminded me of when Orton took over for Cassel jsut clearly better then smith.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12516063)
All aboard the FOLES TRAIN!!!!!!!

one plz can tiggeruppercut and sandy go find other teams now ?

rico 10-30-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12516043)
You guys are ****ing crazy if you think at this point in their careers Smith isn't better than Foles.

Well....I'm aboard the crazy train then, I guess.

RobBlake 10-30-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12516043)
You guys are ****ing crazy if you think at this point in their careers Smith isn't better than Foles.

i want them to start foles and see how he fails miserably

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516090)
Well....I'm aboard the crazy train then, I guess.

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oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12516114)
i want them to start foles and see how he fails miserably

based on what I'm not saying foles is a top 10 qb but he is so much more fun to watch then smith boring ass safe QB play.

Rams Fan 10-30-2016 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516090)
Well....I'm aboard the crazy train then, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12516114)
i want them to start foles and see how he fails miserably

You mean like he did last season?

RobBlake 10-30-2016 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12516127)
based on what I'm not saying foles is a top 10 qb but he is so much more fun to watch then smith boring ass safe QB play.

After his miracle run in Philly, he was verrry streaky.If he can make a run though.. dangerous offense. I have to see more.. see a defense plan for him

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:16 PM

yea you don't replace a QB who has the 3rd best record over the last 5 years with a guy that two teams gave up on.

Thankfully Reid is the guy making 7 figures and those people making 5 figures aren't calling the shots.

New World Order 10-30-2016 02:16 PM

I'm gay for Nickay.

New World Order 10-30-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516170)
yea you don't replace a QB who has the 3rd best record over the last 5 years with a guy that two teams gave up on.

Thankfully Reid is the guy making 7 figures and those people making 5 figures aren't calling the shots.


You have become Clay now that Smith is out.

eDave 10-30-2016 02:18 PM

Still no bundle of stickss.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516170)
yea you don't replace a QB who has the 3rd best record over the last 5 years with a guy that two teams gave up on.

Thankfully Reid is the guy making 7 figures and those people making 5 figures aren't calling the shots.

just like orton we will keep banging our heads on a brickwall smith rightfully lost his job to kapernick for a reason.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516170)
yea you don't replace a QB who has the 3rd best record over the last 5 years with a guy that two teams gave up on.

Thankfully Reid is the guy making 7 figures and those people making 5 figures aren't calling the shots.

5 figures? You have zero clue what people here make...

dannybcaitlyn 10-30-2016 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12515907)
What happens when teams adjust for Foles' playing style? We see this every year with new quarterbacks...teams get film after a few games and the honeymoon period ends.

Smith is your starting QB , get used to it

We aren't going any where with smith. Defenses have to play the whole field against Foles. I'll take my chance with Foles.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12516209)
just like orton we will keep banging our heads on a brickwall smith rightfully lost his job to kapernick for a reason.

kaepernick then went on to choke in the SB, choked against seattle in the NFCCG, and then was benched. And now he's a bum.

Smith -> 3rd winningest QB since.

This is why people view you as having very little intellectual value.

And by little, I'm being quite generous.

Mr. Plow 10-30-2016 02:23 PM

Smith ball washers are going to be in full defense mode all week. It's going to be a fun one.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516251)
kaepernick then went on to choke in the SB, choked against seattle in the NFCCG, and then was benched. And now he's a bum.

Smith -> 3rd winningest QB since.

This is why people view you as having very little intellectual value.

And by little, I'm being quite generous.

kapernick was the better QB that season and ask any 49er fan worth a damm they don't want smith back.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:24 PM

Still no

eDave 10-30-2016 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12516261)
Smith ball washers are going to be in full defense mode all week. It's going to be a fun one.

Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss. Foles was playing way beyond himself. He'll come back to earth and the Foles. The Foles that is a backup.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Alex better hope he can play next week. Nick Dynamite is going to stir up a controversy here pretty quick. He's got a much more live arm than Alex does.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12516261)
Smith ball washers are going to be in full defense mode all week. It's going to be a fun one.

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couldn't happened to a worse bunch of fan's I wish to god smith ballwashers would go find some other team with a mediocre QB to root for there is plenty to choose from.

Aspengc8 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12516233)
5 figures? You have zero clue what people here make...

Judging by the quality of most of the posts on this board, he is probably spot on. :D

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Foles and Smith are about the same level of QB.

Different but similar level


Since Alex Smith is no longer using his legs, we might as well roll with Foles for awhile

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12516275)
Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss. Foles was playing way beyond himself. He'll come back to earth and the Foles. The Foles that is a backup.

This is the 1st year he's been a back up since he was a rookie. Just for the record.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12516182)
You have become Clay now that Smith is out.

He's always been worse....he has all of the negative aspects and none of the positives.

This guy is nothing but a bandwagon bullshit fan who probably had a Cowboys starter jacket a few years ago

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12516275)
Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss. Foles was playing way beyond himself. He'll come back to earth and the Foles. The Foles that is a backup.

49ers replaced smith with a concuss and made the SB that year.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12516275)
Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss. Foles was playing way beyond himself. He'll come back to earth and the Foles. The Foles that is a backup.

So basically in typical chiefs fashion we have all backups and no viable NFL starter.

Wash rinse repeat the last 3 decades.

SAUTO 10-30-2016 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12515899)
Uh oh....

Exactly what I said when I read that

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 12516261)
Smith ball washers are going to be in full defense mode all week. It's going to be a fun one.

and all the Smith haters are in full cock gobbling mode about Foles


umm ... you have a little foles' jizz on the side of your mouth there ... no, the other side ... right there ... yea, you got it

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516286)
Foles and Smith are about the same level of QB.

Different but similar level


Since Alex Smith is no longer using his legs, we might as well roll with Foles for awhile

I agree with this but at least one is so much more fun to watch alex smith play style might win you the same amount of games but its like watching paint dry.

rico 10-30-2016 02:28 PM

Foles over Smith is a much easier and better decision than Kaepernick over Smith was.

Mr. Plow 10-30-2016 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12516275)
Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss.

Smith will be the starter. I never said he wouldn't be. But the excuses and talking about how bad Foles is will be at an all time high. It's going to be a heavy flow week.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516297)
and all the Smith haters are in full cock gobbling mode about Foles


umm ... you have a little foles' jizz on the side of your mouth there ... no, the other side ... right there ... yea, you got it

Which is it you God daMN idiot?

One post you wanna start Foles now....

Next post people that wanna start Foles are Smith haters..


Are you ****ing reeruned?

Rams Fan 10-30-2016 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 12516287)
This is the 1st year he's been a back up since he was a rookie. Just for the record.

He was benched mid-year for Keenum last year. Just for the record

rico 10-30-2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12516275)
Maybe so. But you don't replace Smith because he went out with a concuss. Foles was playing way beyond himself. He'll come back to earth and the Foles. The Foles that is a backup.

The Foles who threw 27 TD's and 2 INT's in only 12 games a couple years ago?

ChiefsCountry 10-30-2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12516313)
Which is it you God daMN idiot?

One post you wanna start Foles now....

Next post people that wanna start Foles are Smith haters..


Are you ****ing reeruned?

He is.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12516267)
kapernick was the better QB that season and ask any 49er fan worth a damm they don't want smith back.

You mean the rest of the 49er schedule was a cakewalk and teams were still learning how to adjust to dual threat QBs...

Again, your football knowledge is dog ****

mcaj22 10-30-2016 02:31 PM

gotta admit, it is nice to see the Receivers and Tight Ends more involved when your QB has a live arm

Mr. Plow 10-30-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516297)
and all the Smith haters are in full cock gobbling mode about Foles


umm ... you have a little foles' jizz on the side of your mouth there ... no, the other side ... right there ... yea, you got it

Good, Laz comes in with an incorrect take on things again. Just like clockwork. It's like you get off on being an idiot.

I'm not a Smith hater. I'm not a fan. Wasn't a fan of the trade and I'd love to see another qb leading the chiefs. He limits the offense.

Rams Fan 10-30-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516327)
The Foles who threw 27 TD's and 2 INT's in only 12 games a couple years ago?

Then the Foles who played mediocre to below average in the 2 seasons after?

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12516313)
Which is it you God daMN idiot?

One post you wanna start Foles now....

Next post people that wanna start Foles are Smith haters..


Are you ****ing reeruned?

No, i just know god dam worthless **** when i see it.

People like you are no different than this blackbob guy you complain about nonstop.

shut the **** up and watch the game instead of always trying to start a fight with someone you don't like

dickhead

Sandy Vagina 10-30-2016 02:32 PM

Foles made a case for himself, no doubt. Can't believe Andy called that option play for Alex.. poor bastard. Might be done for good, regardless.

We'll see where it goes.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12516317)
He was benched mid-year for Keenum last year. Just for the record

Okay smart ass. Thanks for the info.

Sannyasi 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

There are definitely things Foles does that you like after watching Smith for a couple years, such as the fact that Foles was throwing deep going for the TD in the 4th quarter after we were up by 10... Normally this offense is in run out the clock mode in that situation. Whether or not Foles is actually better or not than Smith at this point, its hard to say.

I'm sure Smith will be starting next week if he's healthy. If he has to miss a few weeks, then things could get interesting if Foles continues to play well.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516327)
The Foles who threw 27 TD's and 2 INT's in only 12 games a couple years ago?

Then teams adjusted for him and he got exposed. Matt flynn had a good run too buddy. This is why you don't coach football and probably have never played the sport

rico 10-30-2016 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12516341)
Then the Foles who played mediocre to below average in the 2 seasons after?

Yeah, but that was for Jeff Fisher and the Rams.

A ton of established viable QB's would struggle in that sitch...no offense.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 12516356)
There are definitely things Foles does that you like after watching Smith for a couple years, such as the fact that Foles was throwing deep going for the TD in the 4th quarter after we were up by 10... Normally this offense is in run out the clock mode in that situation. Whether or not Foles is actually better or not than Smith at this point, its hard to say.

I'm sure Smith will be starting next week if he's healthy. If he has to miss a few weeks, then things could get interesting if Foles continues to play well.

Reid will not bench Smith after a temporary injury.

Mr. Plow 10-30-2016 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516342)
No, i just know god dam worthless **** when i see it.

Stop looking in the mirror then.

threebag 10-30-2016 02:34 PM

Hopefully Alex is okay and will be back at the helm next week. :thumb:

RunKC 10-30-2016 02:35 PM

I like his deep ball but for Christ sakes does he execute small and intermediate passes poorly

rico 10-30-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516357)
Then teams adjusted for him and he got exposed. Matt flynn had a good run too buddy. This is why you don't coach football and probably have never played the sport

Matt Flynn had like 2 or 3 games.... not a comparison.

UK_Chief 10-30-2016 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516286)
Foles and Smith are about the same level of QB.

Different but similar level


Since Alex Smith is no longer using his legs, we might as well roll with Foles for awhile

This

Rams Fan 10-30-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516361)
Yeah, but that was for Jeff Fisher and the Rams.

A ton of established viable QB's would struggle in that sitch...no offense.

The first season after that was with Kelly in Philly.

The Rams offense is shit because Fisher believes in being a run oriented team without completely making the offense based on it (i.e:Having a legit fullback instead of a blocking TE). Austin, Britt, Kendricks, etc. are weapons that Foles had at his disposal to go along with Gurley.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516380)
Matt Flynn had like 2 or 3 games.... not a comparison.

Derek Anderson once threw 29 TDs to go along with 19 INTs in a season. Do you think that one fluke of a season means he should be starting?

-King- 10-30-2016 02:36 PM

Whoever starts, we'll be fine. They both have strengths and weaknesses that equal out.
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Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12516342)
No, i just know god dam worthless **** when i see it.

People like you are no different than this blackbob guy you complain about nonstop.

shut the **** up and watch the game instead of always trying to start a fight with someone you don't like

dickhead

I was enjoying watching the game until a ****ing fat reerun with floppy drooling lips sat next to me talking shit about Smith haters

Then when I went to take a piss, found the same hairy coke bottle glasses wearing dipshit , wearing a 19 chiefs jersey with LAZ taped on it with white duct tape jacking off in the bathroom mumbling about Foles 'going deep'

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12516380)
Matt Flynn had like 2 or 3 games.... not a comparison.

Then explain Foles' horrendous transition into that 2nd season? He is not a well rounded football player. Deep balls look great against Indy but against the good defenses, he will shrivel up and crawl into a ball when he can't execute the other throws.

Sannyasi 10-30-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12516365)
Reid will not bench Smith after a temporary injury.

Not after one week, no. But if Alex was out for 3 weeks or so, and Foles played well? I could see it happening. We know Andy loves Alex, but from what we've heard Reid was trying to get Foles as well that offseason.

I'm not completely on the Foles bandwagon, his style of play has some obvious drawbacks. I'm sure after Foles inevatibly throws an interception there would be a lot of fans calling for Alex to come back. I'm glad he looked good today, though.

dannybcaitlyn 10-30-2016 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 12516317)
He was benched mid-year for Keenum last year. Just for the record

Has Jeff Fisher ever had a Qb play well except for the late McNair? He sucks with Qb's


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