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'Hamas' Jenkins 08-25-2014 08:10 PM

Blowsenthal.

I'm tired of this effete one who sucks the penis.

rico 08-25-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10849814)
Blowsenthal.

I'm tired of this effete one who sucks the penis.

My dad spends a lot of his free time expressing his anger and frustration with Blowsenthal. He doesn't piss him off as much as Tony Cruz, but it's close. His diastolic rises the moment he takes the mound.

BigRedChief 08-25-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 10849856)
My dad spends a lot of his free time expressing his anger and frustration with Blowsenthal. He doesn't piss him off as much as Tony Cruz, but it's close. His diastolic rises the moment he takes the mound.

I don't get why Cruz is playing. He offers nothing more than AJ. AJ has an 80 point BA advantage over Cruz. But, he is a RH bat so he gets the start. :banghead:

We are going to have to watch at least 5-6 blown saves before Matheny pulls Rosenthal.

BigRedChief 08-26-2014 07:45 AM

I saw this stat last night

Taveras has hit .367/.406/.433 in eight starts since, having worked to shorten his swing so as to handle big league fastballs.

OT took instruction and modified his swing. Thats a damn good sign of his growing maturity. He screwed up last night swinging at the first strike he saw with bases loaded. He will soon realize you can swing at that pitch on a 3rd strike, not the first. Part of the learning process.

I've read at least 3 national articles in the last couple of days that almost all the top prospects in baseball struggling to live up to their potential right out of the gate. It's not just Oscar. We as Cardinals fans need some patience with him. .308/18/100 hitters don't grow on trees.

Biggest surprise to me........... Mabry actually improved a hitter.:eek:

kcpasco 08-26-2014 08:19 PM

I guess Mike was saving Choate to pitch to a lefty in the 15th inning or something. :shake:

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-26-2014 08:26 PM

It really can't get much worse than Mike Matheny.

BigRedChief 08-26-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10852009)
I guess Mike was saving Choate to pitch to a lefty in the 15th inning or something. :shake:

Freeman threw 5 pitches and got a 1-2-3 inning. He should have pitched the 8th inning.

Since when did Maness earn the right to pitch the 8th inning of a tie game, on the road, against a divisional rival in a playoff push? WTF Matheny?:cuss:

Not pissed at Maness. He should not have been out there. He's not that good.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-26-2014 09:01 PM

Javier Baez the Cubs savior....40 k's in 90 AB ROFL

jd1020 08-26-2014 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10852226)
Javier Baez the Cubs savior....40 k's in 90 AB ROFL

He's definitely going to have to learn to be more patient. He's 21 and on pace for 57 HRs in a full season. We'll see how he does next season. If he can turn a few of those K's into BB's then I've got no problem with a young Adam Dunn at 2B but with much better D.

But he's not the Cubs savior. Kris Bryant is the best hitter the Cubs have in the minors. I'm really not even sure why he is still at AAA when the Cubs have ****ing Luis Valbuena at 3rd and they just called up Soler for some reason.

BigRedChief 08-28-2014 02:11 PM

Stretch run time. We all thought this team under performed all year. We lost Molina, Wacha for extended periods. Most thought we were done.

But, here we are. 1.5 games out of the division lead. 4th best record in the NL. 16 out of 30 at Bush. 20 out of 30 remaining games against sub .500 teams.

Molina could be back behind home plate at Bush this weekend. Wacha may be full strength for playoff starts and late Sept. games.

What say you? Do we make the playoffs and make a quick exit or make a run in the playoffs?

BigRedChief 08-29-2014 03:56 PM

Yadi returns to the lineup.:thumb:

Mi_chief_fan 08-29-2014 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10860737)
Yadi returns to the lineup.:thumb:

Excellent; I feel with his addition, Cards have a decent shot of splitting this 4 game series.

Mi_chief_fan 08-29-2014 08:32 PM

Gonna be painful to watch this team implode. This team can't hit water if they're standing in a boat.

kcpasco 08-29-2014 08:40 PM

Not even mad at Neshek. You cannot expect these guys to be perfect every night. The offense is a damn dumpster fire.

kcpasco 08-29-2014 08:58 PM

Not that it matters but Joe West can suck a fat dick. Ya I know it's 7-2 and you probably have a box of donuts waiting for your fat ass in the locker room but call the k zone right you ****ing asshole.

Mi_chief_fan 08-29-2014 09:13 PM

Seriously, if this team makes the playoffs.....I mean.......they've been getting completely shut down by bums like tonights Cubs starter. How would they fare against a playoff team's 1-3? It's not like they'll see the likes of Hendricks, Locke or Kendrick.

Just don't feel good about this team at all.

jd1020 08-29-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi_chief_fan (Post 10861735)
Seriously, if this team makes the playoffs.....I mean.......they've been getting completely shut down by bums like tonights Cubs starter. How would they fare against a playoff team's 1-3? It's not like they'll see the likes of Hendricks, Locke or Kendrick.

Just don't feel good about this team at all.

Ummmmmmm... You don't know much about Hendricks.

1.78 era with a 1.01 whip... What a bum!

Mav 08-29-2014 10:27 PM

You are welcome St Louis. Lost a tough one, but don't worry, there is an ass whooping being put on by my Giants tonight.

Mi_chief_fan 08-30-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10861773)
Ummmmmmm... You don't know much about Hendricks.

1.78 era with a 1.01 whip... What a bum!

I know he'll be out of the league in 2 years. I know that this team has been shut down recently by such studs as Jeff Locke, Kyle Kendrick an Jerome "released by the Astros"Williams in the past week. I call it as I see it. And Cub fans seem to love this guy the same way they loved Jim Bullinger at first.

BigRedChief 08-30-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10861623)
Not even mad at Neshek. You cannot expect these guys to be perfect every night. The offense is a damn dumpster fire.

He is pitching better than anyone in the game. Even hall of famers have bad nights. Understandable.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-31-2014 01:09 PM

This team is ****ing horrible.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-31-2014 03:31 PM

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BigRedChief 09-01-2014 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10866697)
This team is ****ing horrible.

And yet we are tied for first place.

kcxiv 09-01-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10870296)
And yet we are tied for first place.

i feel you. my team is ass this year too and in first. I guess this year teams just suck in the NL. We are one of the worst hitting teams with RiSP. So bad, that after the 7th inning when down by any amount we are 1-43 lol

This year, anyone in contention can win i think.

BigRedChief 09-01-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 10870368)
i feel you. my team is ass this year too and in first. I guess this year teams just suck in the NL. We are one of the worst hitting teams with RiSP. So bad, that after the 7th inning when down by any amount we are 1-43 lol

This year, anyone in contention can win i think.

yep, just get in the tournament. After that, it's anyone's for the taking.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2014 12:01 PM

It's a hell of a lot easier to stay in the tournament if you stay out of the WC game. The way it is looking, if the Cardinals were to win the division, you'd have a repeat of the LCS in the Divisional round, with the Nats playing the WC winner.

George Liquor 09-01-2014 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10866943)
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Quoted for truth

Pasta Little Brioni 09-01-2014 03:07 PM

Spoiled Card fans LOL

BigRedChief 09-01-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10870937)
Spoiled Card fans LOL

Yeah, you see the conversation in this thread and you'd think they were 8.5 games out of the race.

The last 3 weeks or so we have started coming from behind to win games. If we were down 5 runs, thats it, we laid down. Not happening anymore.

We have the best schedule to win the Central. Washington plays the wild card. We get LA or the Giants. Doe LA or SF scare anyone?

Miles 09-01-2014 08:33 PM

Back in first for now. News on Wacha is sounding positive at least. Gotta win the division to have a solid chance to make a run.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2014 08:37 PM

This team still has one of the worst offenses in baseball and a negative run differential. I have not been unrealistic in my evaluation of this team

BigRedChief 09-01-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10872196)
This team still has one of the worst offenses in baseball and a negative run differential. I have not been unrealistic in my evaluation of this team

Thats looking at it from a purely stat perspective. No one is saying the offense is great. Despite that fact there are also other facts.

After 137 games we are in first place. We have the 4th best record in the NL. Thats not luck. Offense is down all across baseball. We have the most favorable schedule out of all the playoff teams. Pitching wins playoff games, not offense. Waino/Lynn/Wacha/Lackey should be able to compete with any NL staff.

Miles 09-01-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10872196)
This team still has one of the worst offenses in baseball and a negative run differential. I have not been unrealistic in my evaluation of this team

Not at all unrealistic in that take. Still I hope this team might have a chance if they get healthy (Wacha and Yadi). Those Giants recent WS teams couldn't hit for shit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2014 11:14 PM

The Cardinals got completely shut down in their last two playoff series losses not because the pitching imploded, but because they couldn't hit worth a damn.

The anemic numbers they put up against Buchholz and Lackey in the WS are shameful. They scored 14 runs in 6 games.

BigRedChief 09-02-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10872392)
Not at all unrealistic in that take. Still I hope this team might have a chance if they get healthy (Wacha and Yadi). Those Giants recent WS teams couldn't hit for shit.

Wacha starts Thrusday at the Brewers. He should have full arm strength by the playoffs.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-02-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10874288)
Wacha starts Thrusday at the Brewers. He should have full arm strength by the playoffs.

I wouldn't count on that. Remember that he is dealing with a stress reaction in his shoulder. We can't predict if it's going to respond to an increasingly heavy workload. It's an early stress fracture. Maybe he never has another issue with it, but this isn't merely a "stretch him out" kind of injury.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-02-2014 08:37 PM

Wainwright is just ridiculously overworked. Honestly, I'm surprised he lasted this long into the season before getting pounded.

O.city 09-02-2014 08:44 PM

Waino looks gassed. All those 120 pitch outings in a blow out we're unnecessary.

Also, they keep showing Herzog, anyone else notice te two chicks behind him with the big cans?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-02-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10875017)
Waino looks gassed. All those 120 pitch outings in a blow out we're unnecessary.

Also, they keep showing Herzog, anyone else notice te two chicks behind him with the big cans?

It's not just this year, but the cumulative workload of the last two. It's too much to expect.

BigRedChief 09-03-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10875106)
It's not just this year, but the cumulative workload of the last two. It's too much to expect.

Yep, bet the same issue with Rosenthal. He got 4 days rest and he looked a lot better. Nesheck got a days rest and he looked good. See a pattern? evidentley Matheny doesn't see an issue with overuse enough to change his usage of his top line pitchers.

BigRedChief 09-03-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10874749)
I wouldn't count on that. Remember that he is dealing with a stress reaction in his shoulder. We can't predict if it's going to respond to an increasingly heavy workload. It's an early stress fracture. Maybe he never has another issue with it, but this isn't merely a "stretch him out" kind of injury.

I know anything with a shoulder injury in a pitcher is career threatening way more than worrying about this year. I hope they know what they are doing sending up against MLB hitters after only 2 innings of work in the minors.

George Liquor 09-03-2014 02:21 PM

JFC Rosenthal.

First pitch - line drive single to right.

George Liquor 09-03-2014 02:25 PM

way to rebound

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-03-2014 02:38 PM

Pete Cock****in' Bourjos.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FpcyFABSwu...s1600/tuco.gif

BigRedChief 09-03-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10876621)

dude. you have to admit there is something positive going on with this team. When you get Pete Kozma, Delcasco, Bourjas, Seth Maness, Grichuk making positive contributions, Holliday heats up and so on something positive is happening with your team.

I think Molina being back has paid such positive dividends. Look at Martinez's, Miller's and Rosenthal's outings. They threw pitches in counts we haven't seen them throw all year. They get off track, Yadi makes a trip to the mound and wham, they are back on track.

That was some ballsy shit to allow Martinez to take on McCutchen with the game on the line, runners in scoring position. If it fails, everyone will be all over Matheny. I think they have decided that if Rosenthal falters, Martinez gets the 9th and leave Neschek in the 8th.

Mi_chief_fan 09-03-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10876732)
dude. you have to admit there is something positive going on with this team. When you get Pete Kozma, Delcasco, Bourjas, Seth Maness, Grichuk making positive contributions, Holliday heats up and so on something positive is happening with your team.

I think Molina being back has paid such positive dividends. Look at Martinez's, Miller's and Rosenthal's outings. They threw pitches in counts we haven't seen them throw all year. They get off track, Yadi makes a trip to the mound and wham, they are back on track.

That was some ballsy shit to allow Martinez to take on McCutchen with the game on the line, runners in scoring position. If it fails, everyone will be all over Matheny. I think they have decided that if Rosenthal falters, Martinez gets the 9th and leave Neschek in the 8th.

I can no longer deny it.

George Liquor 09-03-2014 05:49 PM

I was about to admit that I gave this team my kiss of death by putting $50 on them to win the World Series in March.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-03-2014 08:51 PM

I think it's easy to be seduced by narratives, but that doesn't always make them true. Descalso's BABIP is something like .425 since the ASB. Kozma getting two big hits is nice, but he's still Pete Kozma.

Wacky shit can happen in a small sample size; we're just lucky that the team is running hot right now.

The Brewers played out of their ****ing skulls in April and have been a sub .500 team since.

I agree that it's nice that things worked out, but the Martinez-McCutchen AB was a white knuckler all the way. 10 pitches and he only swung and missed at one.

In essence, I'm saying that luck doesn't distribute itself evenly across random events. They appear much more even when viewed through a larger prism. You'll have two week periods where every ball drops. We're in one right now. Doesn't make the team great, but the run is certainly enjoyable.

BigRedChief 09-03-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10877635)
I think it's easy to be seduced by narratives, but that doesn't always make them true. Descalso's BABIP is something like .425 since the ASB. Kozma getting two big hits is nice, but he's still Pete Kozma.

Wacky shit can happen in a small sample size; we're just lucky that the team is running hot right now.

The Brewers played out of their ****ing skulls in April and have been a sub .500 team since.

I agree that it's nice that things worked out, but the Martinez-McCutchen AB was a white knuckler all the way. 10 pitches and he only swung and missed at one.

In essence, I'm saying that luck doesn't distribute itself evenly across random events. They appear much more even when viewed through a larger prism. You'll have two week periods where every ball drops. We're in one right now. Doesn't make the team great, but the run is certainly enjoyable.

who in their right mind thinks Kozma is now a good player? That's the point. Even shit players are contributing.

It should have been a white knuckler. The dude is the reining MVP. He's a damn good player. It's suppose to be hard to get him
Out. Mathemy decided to take him on and not let him have a free pass. Play to win the game move.

I know it's small sample size. But, they are ranked 6th in the league in runs scored since July 31st. They have been coming from behind in games for weeks now. I'm sure we will look like shit again before the season is over. Doesn't mean we won't get hot in the playoffs and win another.Keep hope alive.:rolleyes:
/gets off the hope soapbox

Pasta Little Brioni 09-03-2014 09:51 PM

Cards winning down the stretch. ....shocking

scho63 09-03-2014 09:53 PM

As a Pirates fan, I am not a happy camper! :cuss:

Hats off to the Cardinals who consistently find a way to beat us.......

BigRedChief 09-03-2014 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 10877802)
As a Pirates fan, I am not a happy camper! :cuss:

Hats off to the Cardinals who consistently find a way to beat us.......

You have a good team. Cole, mccutchen etc are as good as anyone in the game. I don't see any hard facts as to why we win more than we should against you guys the last two years. :hmmm:

Pepe Silvia 09-04-2014 12:34 AM

I knew the Brewers would collapse with that fraud pitching staff of theirs. It's on guys.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10877988)
I knew the Brewers would collapse with that fraud pitching staff of theirs. It's on guys.

I think if we can take 3 out of 4 they will fold.

I'd settle for 2 out of 4 in this series. They are fighting for their lives. Desperate team playing at home will be tough to take 3 of 4. The odds of the losing streak continuing are hard to overcome. MLB teams with that amount of talent just don't keep losing like they have recently.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10877822)
You have a good team. Cole, mccutchen etc are as good as anyone in the game. I don't see any hard facts as to why we win more than we should against you guys the last two years. :hmmm:

Their pitching is dogshit

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879476)
Their pitching is dogshit

Cole ain't dogshit. He is the real deal.

BTW, How in the hell is Peralta a top 5 player in WAR? A 5.6 WAR? He's hitting .260.

Pepe Silvia 09-04-2014 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10879443)
I think if we can take 3 out of 4 they will fold.

I'd settle for 2 out of 4 in this series. They are fighting for their lives. Desperate team playing at home will be tough to take 3 of 4. The odds of the losing streak continuing are hard to overcome. MLB teams with that amount of talent just don't keep losing like they have recently.

That's true but I'm not worried. Like I said their best pitcher is Gallardo and he's inconsistent at best. Same with Garza, throw in a steroid free Braun and I don't see how they bounce back.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10879521)
Cole ain't dogshit. He is the real deal.

BTW, How in the hell is Peralta a top 5 player in WAR? A 5.6 WAR? He's hitting .260.

He's at 5.1 fWAR. His defense has been spectacular and he's produced 26% more runs than the average ML hitter from the shortstop position. That's huge.

Cole is a good young pitcher, but they don't have a single starter who has put up more than 1.2 WAR. Kind of hard to compete in a division when your starting pitching is that bad.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879568)
He's at 5.1 fWAR. His defense has been spectacular and he's produced 26% more runs than the average ML hitter from the shortstop position. That's huge.

MLB tonight had him at 5.6 WAR. 5th best in MLB.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10879580)
MLB tonight had him at 5.6 WAR. 5th best in MLB.

That's his bWAR.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879633)
That's his bWAR.

bWAR? fWAR? Batting/Fielding? Is there an all inclusive one?

O.city 09-04-2014 06:25 PM

2 runs in the top of the first.

O.city 09-04-2014 06:26 PM

Wacha looks well rested.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10879693)
2 runs in the top of the first.

That will take the wind out of their sails.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10879658)
bWAR? fWAR? Batting/Fielding? Is there an all inclusive one?

bWAR/rWAR=Baseball-Reference

fWAR=Fangraphs

They use slightly different formulas. The difference is more noticeable with pitchers than position players. Their use of different fielding formulas is why Peralta rates slightly higher in bWAR than fWAR

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 06:45 PM

This mother****er's zone turned into a thimble at the half inning.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 07:16 PM

Wacha's velocity was a tremendously positive sign. And we're PH'ing Ellis against a RHP?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 07:19 PM

Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879895)
Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.

Thats just pure BS. He was only insurance for wong. He is not one of Matheny's guys. You want to save Grichuk or taveras for a double switch later okay. But Kozma and Delcasco have some hits lately. Ellis has been out for weeks. He should not be getting AB's in playoff push time.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 08:14 PM

I love Mott as a person and we will always have 2011 but a reliever coming in and throwing a flat, no movement 93 MPH fastball is going to get hammered.

kcxiv 09-04-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879895)
Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.

He's old, its why we let him go and the team before us as well. Think he was with the A's for a bit.

TrebMaxx 09-04-2014 08:59 PM

JFC, even if I was a Brewer's fan I would have to go over to who ever is doing that woouhoouoo every pitch and punch them in the face.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-04-2014 09:49 PM

Rosenthal has got to go. He's just ****ing terrifying.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10880742)
Rosenthal has got to go. He's just ****ing terrifying.

Ain't happening. He would have to blow 5 games to get canned. Let's hope there isn't 5 blown games.

Besides that, it was a good game. All of a sudden we have a damn good defense.

O.city 09-04-2014 09:59 PM

Big win, great defense. Left alot of runs out there.

O.city 09-04-2014 10:04 PM

I like Scruggs off the bench in the playoffs. Would like to see Oscar get more AB's but with Jay and Bourjos playing well, it's tough.

BigRedChief 09-04-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879714)
bWAR/rWAR=Baseball-Reference

fWAR=Fangraphs

They use slightly different formulas. The difference is more noticeable with pitchers than position players. Their use of different fielding formulas is why Peralta rates slightly higher in bWAR than fWAR

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Miles 09-04-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879895)
Mark Ellis is every bit as bad as Ty Wigginton. Goddamn, he ****ing sucks.

Unlike Wigginton the Ellis signing at the time at least made since with him being productive last year and Wong not being a sure thing. Just got hurt and fell off the cliff which was hardly surprising but there was at least a solid chance that could have been a year away from happening.

Miles 09-04-2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10879714)
bWAR/rWAR=Baseball-Reference

fWAR=Fangraphs

They use slightly different formulas. The difference is more noticeable with pitchers than position players. Their use of different fielding formulas is why Peralta rates slightly higher in bWAR than fWAR

I take it ESPN also list bWAR? It's pleasantly surprising how well he has played this year. At least using WAR as a reference you would hardly expect a guy to put up his best season after a signing a decently sized contract that followed a PED suspension.

BigRedChief 09-05-2014 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10880867)
Unlike Wigginton the Ellis signing at the time at least made since with him being productive last year and Wong not being a sure thing. Just got hurt and fell off the cliff which was hardly surprising but there was at least a solid chance that could have been a year away from happening.

Yeah, he was a good one year insurance policy. I have no problems with the signing. We still have a payroll lower than last years. We had money to buy insurance. But now, he needs to ride the pine the rest of the way.


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