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Meh bottom line, I wasn't there so I don't know what I would have done for sure. All I know is tooge has always been a solid poster, a good dude and is alright in my book.
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Heading to Sprint Center in about 90 minutes to drink beer and watch grown men kick each other in the face.
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I guess we're just doomed to disagree. |
I don't think a CPer has ever lost one of these
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Tooge, would you choke Ned Yost for me????
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Competitive or recreational, it happened at both levels. If you can't handle that, or you don't need that shit in your life then don't coach. Because its going to happen. |
:shrug: Choke the kid next time too?
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I'm sure tooge is just unwinding from a weird event with some stiff drinks, but i expect better from him, he's usually much better. To the op, calling another one of my coaches a douche or whatever... it would probably have been best to just let it slide and let the asshole go on home with his mortified, incredibly embarrassed son. |
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Sounds like the guy needed straightening out, so I don't see any real problem here, if he was in your face the way you claim. At that point, it's self defense whether he swings first or not. Never admit to potentially criminal behavior in writing, though, even if you might have a defense to it.
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This isn't the first incident with this parent, so throw that in and my trigger was a bit quick anyhow. |
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* Don't talk shit or you get knocked out. This world would be a better place if people would just stfu and quit acting tough. |
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I never read anything positive about youth sports nowadays. Why are parents so obsessive and weird about your kids playing baseball? None of them are ever going to make it anyway.
Just have fun. |
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Does anyone take you seriously? |
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And after a bad call was made EVERYONE knew the call was wrong. Coaches, players (on both teams), and parents in the stands. That was part of the learning experience. Knowing that not everytime in life things turn out the way you want them or even fairly. These dads that curse and attack referees, other parents, and other kids are setting such a horrible example for their kids. Most of the kids of these psychos know it too. But what can they do? Nothing will ever be as bad as this though, <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Q-LHxEKSJI0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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If he didn't suck he would get a ton of playing time. Guess what he sucks. |
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Did you guys hear about tooge stabbing that guy? That's what I heard.
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It's a problem that parents expect to see their kid playing time whereas the kid is not committed to the cause or wanting to get better, yet the kid complains to his parents and the parent goes against the coach, and complain about the lack of playing time.
I know that I coach, but even if I was not a coach, if my kid complained about lack of playing time, I would ask my kid instead of the coach "Well, what are you doing to fix it? Are you hitting baseballs on your free time? Or are you running/jogging to build up your stamina? etc. etc." The coaches are only having your kid for almost 2-3 hours a day on a certain sport, and 8 hours for school. It's UP to the parents to find a way to HELP their kid get better, not bitch at the coach. |
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I would tell him nevermind, you weren't really sincere anyhow because he deserved it, and he should be thanking you that he still has his teeth, as you started he would forfeit. You didn't come get in his face, you just got him out of yours. He could claim battery I guess, be he assaulted you first with his threatening actions. |
The last brawl I was in was some years back and this brought up all those memories. Outside a bar in Wichita. Wrong place, wrong time. Nine against two. Things were said and shortly escalated with no way out except to fight. After a lengthy and brutal, bloody, fight we were victorious.
Afterwards we decided that those two dudes were the toughest we had ever seen...;) |
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Tooge, you don't need to apologize to any of the parents because my guess is you did what they really wanted to do as well for a long time. Next time though use your words more 'piercingly to the heart' that is far more effective than curse words or actual physical contact. Example, "I can't imagine what it's like behind closed doors for your son and your family now knowing that you can act this way embarrassing them and especially your son in public like this." Where's the positive dad/husband role model leadership here ?:rolleyes:
At that point, he either tells you to 'f' off and walk away thus thinking about what you said, OR he physically assaults you first then you can justify your 'choke hold':D Soft spoken sober words turn away wrath and demand an honest self-assessment of personal character or lack thereof, most of the time. But I get it, Tooge, watching 'bullies' get away with it time and time again with no repercussion and embarrassing all involved and those around watching gets very old.:shake: If there is any apology to be given, it might be to his son and family who saw you do this in front of them. That's hard to see and I realize you didn't mean to make him look small in front of them. Just a thought. |
Solid advice. As I stated, I'd do it differently if it happened again.
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You should have punched his teeth in like you threatened. Then you should have apologized and offered to fix them free of charge. Once he was under snap some photos of your dick in his mouth and post them to his Facebook timeline. That's much better than a tap out via rear naked choke.
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Here's what I don't get:
1) You said the dad took his boy and left, but then comes back-- back where? Did it happen in the parking lot, or at the field? Either way, it seems like it would've happened in front of a kid (his son) or a number of kids (the players). 2) You said he kept saying "hit me", and you wouldn't, so you put him in a choke hold. If you were having a face-to-face altercation with no physical interchange, how did you manage to get behind him? LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY, IF THE CHOKE DOES NOT FIT, YOU MUST ACQUIT! |
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The ****ing guy was leaving and the tantrum was over. An appropriate response would be to let the guy know that, while his son is welcome to play out the rest of the season, he has lost the privilege of attending games as he cannot conduct himself properly in public. Then the coaches could explain to the rest of the children after the game that behavior like that is ann embarrassment, is unacceptable, and will not be tolerated. As it stands, Tooge and the other guy should both be banned from future games for their behavior. Frazod should also be banned for having such a stupid opinion and being a poor example of acceptable body composition for these young, aspiring athletes. |
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What is the actual definition of a brawl, anyway? My definition would be this:
1. Must involve six or more people. Plus 2. No weapons that are actual weapons. All weapons must be improvised. Plus 3. There are more than two teams in the brawl. Plus any two of the following three a. Someone gets thrown through a window. b. Someone gets hit in the back with a chair. c. Someone gets thrown through a swinging door of some kind. Am I correct? |
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Looks good. Congrats. |
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I'm sure your bitch ass runs away from everything. The good news is, it sounds like you run pretty fast. LMAO |
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I would also allow ice picks. |
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Spiked rings should also be permitted. |
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Belt buckles? |
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However, I think ball point pens should not be allowed in melee. Brawl, yes. Melee, no. |
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I was going to post YouTubes of the scenes from West Side Story and Green Street Hooligans, but by that definition, they're not brawls because they were both planned. Drat.
I'm not too sure about the 'More Than Two Teams' limitation. That would outlaw most of The Warriors, which really should qualify. |
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Tooge,
If you are an assistant coach of the team you should know the parents, the parents should know you, and you should be able to speak to them in an adult manner. |
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Retract your apology and tell him to DIAFAT
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the dude needs to Die In A Fire Aids Tree? maybe Die Under A Firey Aids Tree makes sense or maybe Die From A Firey Aids Tree but not IN the aids tree, because why would someone climb an aids tree? |
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