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Chiefs coach: Steve Breaston is a backup right now
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=265204)
Dude, EVERYBODY thinks your him and that's not a good thing.
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here's your catch-up work. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...66#post9019166 |
Bowe catches about 75-80 balls a year for 1100-1200 yards with jack shit at QB. That's impressive to me. He's on pace for 90 catches in this cluster **** of a season.
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"Dwayne Bowe catches 90 balls a year for 1100 yds year in and year out" No he doesn't. "but he has always had trouble catching the ball" that's my point "but he's never had a good qb" even the sh*tty ones hit him in the hands occasionally; ironically, those are the passes he usually drops. "shut up Black Bart - let's neg rep him" I got viciously flamed for having an opinion and stating it. It may not be popular, but I have every single right to post it, and I think I proved my point very well, with FACTS. Sorry that a buncher of people with 14,000 posts and nothing better to do decided to gang up on the 'n00b' and show him what it's all about here at CP. Facts remain that : Dwayne Bowe has never once caught 90 balls a year (despite claims that he does 'year in and year out') and Quote:
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I expect more from a receiver with his physical skill set, period. He could be as badass as Fitzgerald, who doesn't give a fuck less about who his QB is. He COULD be that good. But he ain't. |
Pioli signed Breaston, so that's kind of dumb. Baldwin was drafted to start oppostie Bowe. Time to take the diapars off and play.
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Driving wheel?
What are your thoughts on Derrick Johnson? Is he a good tackler? How about Brandon Siler? |
Bowe is going to be the all-time leading receiver in the history of this franchise if we are smart enough to re-sign him this offseason.
NOBODY had more yards or catches through their first 5 years with this team. So suck on that. |
Pioli signed Breaston because Haley raved about him and how he knew his offense so well in Arizona playing opposite to Fitzgerald.
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Honestly, If Bowe and Albert aren't signed this year. I'm going to be ****ing pissed, I could see Bowe going to like Washington or Miami for more $.
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again, it could be the "chicken-vs.-egg' situation as there are no QBs on the roster, but Breaston put up some decent numbers last year and displayed enough chemistry with the offense in general that not having him on the field is detrimental... but maybe they feel like since the season is lost, that have to get Bladwin ready to play and that they already know what they have in Breaston?? Seems like you'd put the players with the best chance of winning on the field, but we know that isn't how they do things round these parts - gotta be part of "the right 53." |
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F8ck brandon Siler - I keep hearing about him and hearing about him, but I ain't seen shit. Hope the answer was to your liking. |
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I pulled the 90 out of my ass and I was wrong. It's closer to 75-80. And it's still 1100 yards. You're WHOLE POINT was that Dwayne Bowe is NOT AN ELITE WR. You're wrong. I think it's funny you quote me in your sig though. You're too stupid to realize that an admission that he drops passes means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Roddy White drops passes. Jordy Nelson drops passes. Terrell Owens dropped passes for his entire career. This isn't about dropped passes, it's about you wanting to weight the dropped passes WAY MORE than they actually are. But by all means, continue on. It obviously makes you feel better, Don Quixote. |
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That's because the QBs we have have "windows" measured in YARDS rather than FEET. |
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You went off about him pointing at the back of his jersey and shit. Stop changing the argument. |
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As usual. |
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Again, that 'pointing' wouldn't be a big deal, but his team is 1-5 and he isn't exactly playing great individually, I don't care how many catches he's on pace for. Winning cures everything; losing MAGNIFIES everything. D8ckhead needs to go out and concentrate on the game and not self-promotion. If you don't agree with that, then you probably don't have much moral character yourself. I'm sorry you feel the need to carry on, but I feel as if i have proven my point, and I'm done with you - do find something else to do. |
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I would take Roddy or Jordy over D-Bowe in a heartbeat. Again, those guys teams are WINNING. They probably laugh off a drop, because they have an elite QB who's going to come right back and hit them square in the hands on the very next play. Not so in KC, where the ball hits D-Bowe in the hands and, if it's not intercepted, DaboLLLLL calls a draw on 3rd and 13, then we punt. The margin for error here is non-existent. He has to be more accountable. None of this, 'well, D-Bowe and Roddy drop the same percentage of passes.' Yeah, well Roddy's team can recover from that shit - D-Bowe's can't. AM I RIGHT!!!??? A |
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For such a "team leader" and "star veteran", he leads with a pretty shitty example - no wonder this team is ****ed from the top to the bottom. |
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People dont want to be under this ****ing nazi's thumb. |
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I only took like 3 hours for you to FINALLY admit what all of us knew you meant from the very beginning. The rest of the team sucks so Dwayne Bowe has to be PERFECT. That's the dumbest ****ing take ever and the ONLY other person that's every made that same argument is Black Bob. Congrats, you're in rare company. |
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Your expectations of Bowe are absolutely assinine. |
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This team is stacked with WRs, they just need someone to call the right plays and a QB that can do his part. End of story. |
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No, - he doesn't have to be perfect, but he could stop acting like a toolbag. You could, too. |
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GTFO. |
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Still dumb. Sorry. |
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there's a problem with Baldwin, the training camp sensation who can't translate his practice field success to the gridiron. Breaston should be playing over him. |
Look, I'm done arguing with you. You've been thoroughly exposed.
This isn't about Dwayne Bowe. This is about you. You obviously have a problem with Dwayne Bowe that prevents you from looking at it with even a slight amount of objectivity. Admit it and move on. |
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http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...43#post9019143 |
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Breaston should be playing, no doubt, but you also need to give the 1st round pick some reps and a chance to play. The fact that he missed so much time due to the Thomas Jones incident, put him behind. Breaston needs to adapt to the slot, and sit Mccluster, fixed. I like watching Baldwin play, McCluster not so much. |
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Congratulations on mediocrity. You would be best friends with a certain GM I know... |
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I don't know how that is so hard for you to understand. With his physical skill set, he COULD be as good as Fitzgerald. but he's NOT. HE IS NOT. Fitzgerald and Johnson are the measuring sticks for "elite" WRs in this league, and D-Bowe is NOT in their class. AT ALL. |
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You do realize that Larry is a HOF WR and they don't just grow on trees?
Most players in the NFL have similar physical skill sets, dumbass. It is the other skills that separate them. ****, Larry has a way slower 40 time than nearly every other top 15 WR. |
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And it depends on what your measure of "success" is - we play enough shows with enough guaranteed $$ each month and sell enough merch that I can go to school without having to worry a whole lot about things, get to go to some Chiefs games, hang out with my daughter. I'm cool with it. sorry it's not good enough for you; maybe lady gaga or Nickleback will be more to your liking. then, you can go eat at applebee's with your fat, ugly wife, ya ****ing hoosier. |
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Thats why Bowe trains with Fitzgerald in the offseason... you're a parody. |
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http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/02/wi...o-a-superstar/ Keyshawn Johnson had an eye on the Kansas City-Seattle game. The AFC West-leading Chiefs, on the road and leading by 11, were trying to close out the Seahawks midway through the fourth quarter. Matt Cassel, armed with the top running game in the league and one of its most explosive tailbacks in Jamaal Charles, brought his unit to the line on third-and-1 at the Seattle 46. Run, right? How 'bout a slant-and-go to Dwayne Bowe instead? The fourth-year wide receiver ran a perfect route, Cassel was on the money for a 17-yard completion, and the Chiefs scored the put-away touchdown in their 45-24 win three plays later. Johnson watched and nodded. "When I saw that, I knew," the former Pro Bowl wideout-turned analyst said by telephone Wednesday. "Obviously, Dwayne Bowe had matured at his position this season, but that play, right there -- a "Sluggo" (essentially a slant-and-go route) in that situation -- told me how much his coach trusts him." Such faith would never have happened, though, had Bowe not placed a similar trust in his coach. And when that coach is a receivers maven like Todd Haley -- whose track record with wideouts looks like this: Johnson with the New York Jets; Marty Booker in Chicago; Johnson again, plus Terry Glenn and Terrell Owens in Dallas; Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin in Arizona -- why wouldn't a receiver bend on his every word? "At this level, you have to keep your mouth closed and keep your head down and just strive," Bowe said Sunday after grabbing 13 passes for 170 yards and three touchdowns against the Seahawks. "That's what I've been doing." Don't expect Bowe to alter the course. Not only was his last outing the best single-game performance of his career, it padded his 2010 season numbers to 58 catches, 885 yards and a franchise-record 14 touchdowns. All but one of those TDs have come after Week56, making Bowe just the third player since the NFL-AFL merger in 1970 -- joining Jerry Rice (1987) and Sterling Sharpe ('94) -- with 13 scoring receptions over a seven-game span. Something happened. "He's now a football player and not just a pass-catcher. That wasn't the case before and that's not easy to deal with," said Haley, who, in his second year in Kansas City, has the Chiefs (7-4) atop the AFC West heading to Sunday's home date against rival Denver (3-8). "Sometimes, guys are more caught up in statistics than they are winning." That was a problem with Fitzgerald when Haley left his post as receivers coach and passing-game coordinator with the Cowboys to become offensive coordinator for the Cardinals in '07. Fitzgerald, taken third overall in the '04 draft, had put up good enough numbers in his career, but few of them factored into the victory column. Much like a conversation he had with Johnson in New York a decade earlier, Haley reminded Fitzgerald what the game was all about. "I told Larry the statistics he was putting up were meaningless if the team wasn't above .500," Haley told FanHouse by phone Wednesday. "Sometimes, guys accumulate yards and make people think they're good receivers when they're really not. Sometimes that's hard for those guys to accept." "Todd (Haley) wants you in the best possible condition you could be in, and then teaches you how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played." -- Keyshawn Johnson But like Johnson before him, Fitzgerald took the message and started his transformation by taking stock in Haley's obsession with conditioning. He lost weight, added muscle and, practically overnight, became arguably the best wideout in football. Three years later, Bowe is undergoing a similar metamorphosis under Haley's guidance and with a near-identical sales pitch. Bowe even spent the offseason training with Fitzgerald. "I told myself I had to get serious and focus," he said. Again, it wasn't like Bowe was a bum. He was Kansas City's first-round draft pick in '07 out of LSU and actually caught 86 passes for more than 1,000 yards in '08, the year before Haley left the Cards after their last-second loss to Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl to become head coach of the Chiefs. That would be -- at the time -- the 2-14 Chiefs, by the way. "He came into offseason meetings and I looked like a tight end or a linebacker," Haley recalled. The 6-foot-2 Bowe weighed 238 pounds. Later, Haley handed Bowe a bowling ball to make a point. "Try carrying a couple of these around," he said. "Try to get off the line or beat a guy downfield or high-jump for a ball in the fourth quarter." Bowe, Haley figured, was two bowling balls overweight. Now, the 2010 version weight in at 212 pounds and is playing like a present-day Otis Taylor, carving himself into an all-purpose wideout who never has to come off the field. Johnson remembers how much of a difference the few pounds Haley made him take off (from 216 to 212) and swears he could feel it. "The explosion, the stamina, the endurance, it's all part of it on game day," Johnson said. "Todd wants you in the best possible condition you could be in, and then teaches you how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. A lot of guys catch passes, but you have to get open, you have to finish plays, have to block in the running game. His guys do that. And that's what Bowe is doing right now." For one reason. "He bought in," Haley said. The Chiefs, with the return of Charles and addition of Thomas Jones, figured to have a lethal rushing attack this season. They do -- it's ranked No. 1 in the league at 173.4 yards per game. But now they have a touchdown-maker in the passing game, who has made some fantasy football geeks look really smart. Bowe needs just 115 yards for the second 1,000-yard season of his career. Only this time, he'll be amassing those digits in meaningful games in December with Chiefs fighting for a postseason spot. "My head is down," Bowe said. Everything else about his game -- and the Chiefs -- is way up. 2010 was SO long ago. I miss Todd Haley. I win the internets. Quote:
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Bob Wheel you're still a parody, he's been going for the last three years, heres proof of his most recent trip, you ****ing reerun...
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7...rived-at-larry |
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Major epic internet fail. Second, if you're gonna call me a reerun, I would appreciate more effort on your part to spell properly, use proper grammar - context and syntax are huge too, don't forget. Punctuation and proper tense help you not appear so Mongoloid, as well. I mean, check the date on your link before you post it, for God's sake - I thought I was the ****ing n00b here, and I have to school YOU. Pathetic. 3rd, as I stated before (and you just simply didn't read the last post I made - or may not have been able to make it through all those big long words before it) just because the Fat & Lazy #82 goes out to AZ and runs sprints with Fitz to drop weight for camp, doesn't mean he does what Fitz does, day in day out, game in game out, PLAY IN PLAY OUT. ya ignorant wretch. |
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Nah, it's already over; the best he's got left is neg repping me and commenting "wrong again, dummy" in private... pretty anticlimactic, if you ask me. (hey 'scott free' - google up 'anticlimactic' on your intrawebber; I ain't got time to explain the meaning of that, too...) |
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Fitzgerald, along with Megatron, were two of the most highly regarded WR prospects in the past decade. Bitching and whining because Bowe isn't as good as them is ****ing stupid as shit. Bowe was like the 4th WR taken in his class. Their natural ability is not the same. Aside from that, you name inferior players and claim ceiling (conjecture) and age, which isn't even true in all cases. Your argument, which is "He's not as good as Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, and that means he's terrible." is fundamentally flawed buddy. I think you're just being a contrarian for attention. |
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I didn't say he was terrible - find ONE post where I stated such drivel. I said he isn't as good as he could be, and I stand by that. I also said that I believe he COULD be as good as Fitzgerald, were he to have the same type of attitude and work ethic - but he doesn't. Finally, I argued that he doesn't belong in the same category as the TRULY elite WRs such as Fitz, Megatron, Andre Johnson, etc. Because he simply is not as good those guys. that doesn't mean he's terrible or he sucks or that he should be cut; it just means I believe him to be just a notch below the truly elite guys. And I stand by that. |
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2010 & 2012 respectively... http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2010/...itzgerald-camp http://thefootballgirl.com/news-and-...ugust-5th.html You wont school me kiddo, i promise you that... crying about neg rep in the forum LMAO, whats even funnier is that atleast a few people white knighted & rewarded you for it, thats whats pathetic. Now go breast feed your daughter & get to bed, that minimum wage job isnt going to work itself, jumior. |
Rep for scott free :)
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That isn't on iTunes. |
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You know why I jumped all over you earlier? Because instead of saying "Bowe need to work harder" or "Bowe is a notch below elite" you said "Bowe is a tool", busted on him pointing at the back of his jersey as if that somehow has ANYTHING to do with how good of a player he is, and then proceeded to call him fatty. If you want to be taken seriously, you need to construct your criticism better. As it stood (up until the post above at least) your posts looked like those of a guy who's girlfriend was hitting on Bowe at a party. |
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Someone, PLEASE ban BobTard ****pants.
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You notice how Fitz and Megatron et. al. catch a shitton of their passes in truly meaningful situations - Arizona last Sunday perfect example. Kolb is hurt, Skelton in, throws to Fitz repeatedly who is always open and makes the catches to put his team in a position to win. Bowe doesn't do that. That article I posted from 2010 about Haley, Keyshawn, Fitz and D-Bowe?? There's a lot to read between the lines on in that article. A LOT. |
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And, back on topic... THROW THE ****IN' BALL TO BREASTON!!! |
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What you haven't established is some kind of connection between his attitude and his play on the field. Because there isn't one. Dwayne Bowe isn't lazy. He isn't fat. And while he may not be reaching his full potential, he certainly isn't a disappointment. Your ire is misdirected. Focus! We've got a GM to oust! |
Dwayne Bowe plays the game exactly the way Michael Irvin used to.
Kicks ass, acts like a jackass and annoys the brass. HOF WR. |
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kc needs Bowe a whole lot more then Bowe needs kc, especially if kc drafts a rookie QB. Just a little fyi...
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We need WRs that can catch the ball and run. Baldwin will never be that guy. He can't get open against NFL DBs. |
Steve Breaston @SBreaston15
When the situation ain't improving.... |
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There was a chapter where Michael Irvin was getting his haircut in the team barber shop.....he told some UDFA rookie to GTF up because he was a king and deserved to get his haircut first....when the rookie refused, Irvin grabbed the barber's scissors and stabbed him in the god damn throat and almost bled to death and killed the guy. They settled out of court for a large sum of money if the rookie kept quiet and never spoke of the issue. |
Everett mciver. And he was an undrafted rookie in 94. Not a rookie.
Got a six figure settlement Posted via Mobile Device |
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