Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9014986)

So out of curiosity, what part of Geno's game don't you like?

How do you feel about his accuracy on short and intermediate throws? Deep balls? What do you think of his pocket presence or ability to read through progressions? What do you think of his throwing motion and release?

I'm game to entertain the idea that Smith is overrated. I'd just like to hear the specifics on what you don't like.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 9014990)

Best QB that we should take equals best player to ever lace up? Part of the reason Baylor is barely a top 25 is because of what Geno did to them. Again, as mentioned earlier, you should probably go watch him before calling him out on his schedule or thinking people are going over board.

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015041)

You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9015047)

That's racist.

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9014910)

Please god tell me you're talking about "interim"

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015041)

You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015057)

You're racist.

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015041)

You people seem to be mistaken. I do not have a problem with Genos skill set or performances. I think he is a good player who has tremendous upside. But, is he the best QB prospect in next years draft? I remain skeptical. Yes, he is a first round pick, and will likely go in the top 5 no matter if he goes first or not...

As for his working skill sets; I'll leave that up to far more qualified individuals to assess. I do not happen to think he is a "slam dunk" player like many here happen to think he is. But thats because I think many here have incredibly unrealistic expectations. Against ranked quality opponents, he comes up average statistically. There is no crazy breakout game that puts me in awe of his abilities when it comes to playing other quality teams. Against sub par teams, hes great...against decent teams, hes remarkably average.

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9015076)

So you're calling out others' ability to evaluate QBs, but you don't have any actual stance on why they are wrong? That's brilliant. gtfo douchebag

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015102)

Nobody here would be sad if we ended up with Barkley or even Wilson...we just prefer Geno to all the alternatives and it isnt even close.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015063)

take Matt Barkley and put him on WV and his stock drops. Put Geno Smith on USC and he is the unquestioned #1 pick

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015113)

That's cool. I would be satisfied if we ended up with Geno. Obviously taking a QB in the first round is totally necessary. We'll just have to wait and see...

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015095)

I do not recall specifying my argument. I'll leave that evaluation up to actual NFL scouts...not some wannabe poster on Chiefsplanet.com who has over 20,000 posts...

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 9015095)

I wouldn't say as good as many here seem to be thinking

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015169)

There were probably 10 of us championing Geno as the top QB in the 2013 class when he was on scouting sites as a 2nd and 3rd rounder.

Truth

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9015171)

I only remember one guy talking about him before this season.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015186)

I use "us" a lot when talking about Planeteers...I obviously wasnt one of the guys heading up anything regarding Geno.

DJ, Sac and SNR come to mind as 3 guys that were WAYYYY ahead of the curve and talked about him as being a better prospect to Barkley well before anyone else.

As soon as I read SNR (who I agree with quite a bit) championing him, I did some research and jumped on the bandwagon.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9015197)

You're crazy, I was on the Geno bandwagon way before that.

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9015199)

Yeah, you like to use "us" a lot to make it sound like you were on board shit that you weren't

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8947396)

I see Barkley as similar to Matt Ryan. Good arm, but not a cannon, can effectively go through progressions and spread the ball around and attack the whole field.

Geno Smith isnt as dynamic as RG3, but there are lots of similarities in their games/skillsets. He has enough speed and instinct to make defenses pay if they try to run too much man coverage and can shred a zone with his arm.

I see Wilson as a lesser version of Rivers...similar arm and game demeanor...opposing teams can get in his head and he is very hot/cold.

Landry Jones is a stronger armed Cassel that needs everything around him to be clicking
to be effective. When Broyles went down, he fell apart. As others mentioned, his game against k St was awful.

Geno Smith should be targeted by us and could flourish with the weapons we have.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9015214)

really?