It's not that big of a deal. I don't want to blow it out of proportion. I just don't know why the Chiefs have to resort to trickery to move the ball when they have good players.

Again, what is this trickery?

That's not trickery. He is trying to figure out what the defense is doing so he can get the team into a better play.

That's not trickery. He is trying to figure out what the defense is doing so he can get the team into a better play = motioning guys around to determine the defensive scheme.

You are a ****ing reerun

Exactly.

"Trickery" is not motioning into a mismatch. It's almost like Knomo doesn't understand football, but that can't be the case, can it?

he's a donkey troll

He's not trying to understand anything ... he's trying to talk shit.


http://www.freewebs.com/calitorial/D..._the_Troll.jpg

The key word is trying.

Chiefs first play...

line up with McCluster in the slot Baldwin out wide and two RB's in the backfield. They motion Hillis out wide and then throw to McCluster. That was trickery. Why not just line up with 3 WR's?


Play #2

They lineup in an obvious run formation, fake the handoff to the FB and then throw a quick pass to Charles. That is trickery.

They run a lot of plays like this. Why not just play straight up? Why do they have to rely on trickery?

Again, it's no big deal. It's just something I have noticed, and the Chiefs have been running plays like this for the past 3 or 4 years.

Are you really this ****ing reeruned? Really?



Why can't Manning just run the play that he started with? It's tricky for him to change it.


Why does he run play action? It tricks the defense? Thats tricky.


I am amazed you are allowed to stay on this board. You bring nothing to it. At all.

It's okay to not understand football, you can say so, even ask questions if you want, no one will make fun of you.

Hahahaha
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you ****ing failure


"Omg they did a play action pass...thats so TRICKY!!!""

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I can't believe anyone even engages this guy. This may be the worst troll argument I have ever seen. Most sports strategy is deception.
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I think he's just embarrassed to ask questions about things he doesn't understand.

Trickery? What did Cassel pull a quarter out of a linebacker's ear? A fake handoff and mismatches aren't trickery.

Get ready for a whole lot off trickery up and over your ass this season. Gonna be fun playing the broncos and watching them only do three step drops out of fear of anybody laying a hand on brokeneck mountain.

Now move along... I'm sure there is a school shooting somewhere in Colorado you must attend.

You seem like a pretty good guy and I like the fact that for the most part your takes are positive but, KnowMo gets exactly what he wants out of you.

Is this your first year of watching football? It's pretty damn obvious you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Expecially coming from a troll who thought Tim Tebow wasn't a one trick pony last season. When Manning's neck is busted for good and the old horse sent off to the glue factory, it'll be fun watching your excuses for Osweiler's inability to grasp the NFL like you did with Tebow.

I just get tired of the guy diluting every thread with some bullshit. He has his own thread here, which is pretty damn stupid, he's a Bronco fan that has a thread on a Chiefs board, so he can post his nonsense there.

seconded

So has every other team in the NFL, like, for ever. Motion is not new, nor are positions shifts.

You probably think the "famous" 65 Toss Power Trap uses trickery because the play relies on misdirection along the line to work (pulling the Right Guard from the to block on the left, pulling the Left Tackle out to create a seam on the outside, while the end cracks down on an LB trapping one of the DT's at the point of attack).

PA Fake is trickery??? LMAO

Why do defenses try to disguise their coverages? Why do defensive players move around prior to the snap? Why do quarterbacks pump-fake?

Witchcraft

YOU GUYS , CALLING AN AUDIBLE IS WITCHCRAFT

Herm hijacked KnoMo's account.

In the war between good posters and trolls...

The trolls have won. Nuke this place from orbit.

all the more reason to think the knowmo is a gochief mult

they are both going off the same deep end with silly shit

Yes I was encouraged. And not just the first two series either. I liked his playcalling for the entire game.

And while I may be in the minority, I was encouraged with the play of Stanzi and Quinn. I still think if/when Stanzi gets a shot with the number #1's he is going to be very sharp. Especially with Daboll's playcalling.

Really? I couldn't tell from the fuzzy internet feed but it looked like Quinn was sharper than Stanzi. I won't know for certain until the NFL Network re-broadcasts the game next week but I'm very curious to see for myself.

I just don't understand why it isn't airing until Wednesday or whatever. Totally lame.

This...
Can they both just be put down at this point?
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Kind of a toss up, but it could have to do with the level of the players around them
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Monday morning, last I saw.

Chiefs didn't play well. Its all trickery.

LMAO

Thanks. I'll set it to record right now.

I believe 10:00 AM eastern on Monday is correct

I thought Quinn was fine last night too. Not knocking him at all.

I just see something in Stanzi's game that I really like. His pocket presence and decisiveness look very good to me, and he throws a pretty damn good ball for the most part too. Just something about him I like.

Nothing against Quinn at all.

Yep just go into the game with the understanding that's really David Blaine at qb and you will be ok. Don't get your hopes up, he's only here for that one game.
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I checked the NFL Network schedule earlier this week, and it had the Chiefs listed for Moanday 10 am pacific.

I just scrolled through the schedule right now, and that game is not listed.

Its 10 Eastern IIRC (7 am pacific)

am I going to have to get a restraining order to get you out of my head?
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LOL :thumb:

I couldn't find it, either. On the NFL Network, the first airing I've found is at 12:00am on 8/15, then again at 1:00pm that same day.

On Sunday, 8/12, it's listed on channel 686, FSAZHD at 6:30pm, which I'm guessing is a Fox Sports Phoenix feed. I have no idea if that will be blacked out in my area, as the NFL.com feed last night was blacked out in parts of Cali and Nevada.

According the schedule as I scroll through it right now, 10 eastern, 7 pacific has the Rams-Colts.

1 pm Eastern, 10 am pacific has the Bucs-Dolphins.

4 eastern, 1 pacific has the Ravens-Falcons.

Cards-Chiefs are nowhere to be found from now through Monday.

thats ****ing weird....

check this link from the NFL network schedule though

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networ...08%2F13%2F2012

****ing bizarre...hrm....

Yeah, I see it there but not on the DVR. If I go to Wednesday at 12am on Channel 212 and go to "View Upcoming", all that's listed is the Fox Sports Arizona feed on Sunday night and the two airings on Wednesday.

I think their schedule is always fluid, as I can recall this happening in the past. Some games aired sooner than the NFL.com schedule, some aired later.

To me it's the fact they won because the Cards could have come back in the 4th quarter & I'd still be happy because I saw something that I hadn't seen in awhile...the Chiefs looked like a functioning team in preseason instead of the pile of dogshit we have witnessed for awhile. The first team offense & defense was dominating & that's a positive sign.

The Cards 4th teamers could have won the game in the 4th quarter & I would still be happy today because the Chiefs 1st teamers were awesome!:thumb:

It is bizarre.

As I said, I scrolled through the schedule on Friday, and they were initially scheduled for Monday am airing.

Its so funny that with all the BILLIONS the NFL has and makes, that the NFL network seems totally cheesy and hokey still....LOL

Maybe just set the DVR to record 7AM to 10:30 AM on Monday still just to be sure ...I dunno....

I'm down with that plan.....Put 'em both on a plane or a box and send them to me....My dog needs some bite dummies and they both qualify....I'll video and post it.....

NFL Network is showing the game on Wednesday at 2:00am & 3:00pm.

And Wednesday at 3:00pm

Not according to my Direct TV DVR. It's the Steelers vs. Eagles from 9pm-12am PST. The Rams vs. Colts is on from 6:00 to 9:00pm Sunday nights.

Well, there are certain local "rights" issues that come into play because technically speaking, the preseason games are organized, managed and broadcast by each team and not the NFL.

But I do agree that they need to iron out this issue. I almost purchased the Preseason Package for $19.99 last night, only to have a friend call and say "Don't do it. I just paid for it and the game is blacked out".

UGGGGHHH...Good thing you didn't, that would be ****ing ANNOYING.:banghead:

Which is exactly why I was stuck watching the crappy feed last night. Oh well, it was better than waiting until Wednesday.

:thumb:

Fox Sports Arizona is showing it at 8:30pm on Sunday...sorry.:doh!:

I saw that, thanks! Although I'm betting it's the Arizona feed, so I won't see and hear the Trent Green-Paul Burmeister broadcast. I set it to record, anyway.

:thumb:

I like Trent as a commentary guy. Very smart and insightful. I'm glad Idon't have to listen to Jayice Pearson anymore. That guy was sort of annoying. The Chiefs television network or whatever its called, always has "technical difficulties". Every year. It's kinda comical at this point. Like an annual tradition lol.

I never cared for Jayice on the field or in the booth. Trent has some nice insight from time to time, although if he wants to pursue a broadcast career, he needs to work with a vocal coach to work on his tone, which is a bit nasally.

I'm not surprised with technical difficulties because the broadcast team works infrequently together. Live broadcasting is very,very difficult under normal circumstances. The network guys just make it look easy.

Lol yeah I really don't care about the technical issues they have every year. I kind of welcome it at this point. Its funny, and I didnt give a shit about that guy they were trying to interview anyway.

Trying to get the defense out of position is trickery? I think each team should tell what the other one is calling just to make it fair.

Knowmo is definitely a gochiefs mult.

All the local teams broadcast in preseason for every team are like this. They don't have the budgets that the networks do. They are all for the most part, homeristic.
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I guess all the years Denver used the misdirection QB bootlegs was just cheap trickery. Why not just run a play in one direction? Faking a run one way and going the other is CHEAP. Trying to fool the defense is for pussies!

I experienced the same thing with the Preseason Package. Except I actually purchased it, and found several games I tried to watch were blacked out that were way out of my broadcast area. But I called back and canceled it. They didn't give me any grief over canceling though.

LMAO

He would have loved Herm running LJ up the center's ass times infinity. REAL football!!!

Looks like Dane has already had his preseason.

Mother****er hitting the grounding running this September.

Our O finally looks like the Patriots, thank God. The routes he was having Dex run was classic patriots

Talent wins in the NFL.

The Chiefs have it.

No, none of us are thinking SB(Cassel).

Winning the division is a very good possibility.

It might be the crack but if the Chiefs fail to win the division, it should be considered a disappointment, at least to Chiefs fans. Cassel or not.

This team is stacked. Romeo continues to show that he "gets it". If they're healthy, this season could be magical.

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This is likely the deepest this team has been in a decade.

We could not be healthy and still win the division...

I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying that, I watched the game live on the NFL stream last night. Just watched the first quarter again this afternoon.

We came a game away from that last season.

8-8 would not haave excited me.

We would just have been the best looking turd in the toilet.

Me either, and we would have been destroyed again had we made the playoffs. I'm just saying that looking back it's impressive that they were that close considering the talent they lost.

With an idiot HC and 3 different starting QB's.

And we upgraded at RT, HB, TE, C, and DL this year which were our biggest weaknesses last year...

If Cassel could play like he did last night all year, he could Dilfer us deep in the playoffs. He is never gonna be Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers but he's probably the best we have ( though I'd like to see stanzi get some work with the 1s) so I'm gonna go into this season giving him the benefit of the doubt.