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Deberg_1990 04-27-2025 06:05 PM

In the NFC, did the Niners get better? Did they just have a down year or are they truly on a downside? They haven’t signed Purdy yet have they?

The Eagles still look like the clear front runner

Deberg_1990 04-27-2025 06:07 PM

The AFC west is obviously going to be good and a dogfight now. Every organization has competent leadership at the top now. Going to be fun.

493rd 04-27-2025 06:16 PM

Trying to answer this question in April is a fools errand and everyone knows it. Let’s see what happens after training camp, then mid-November. On paper every team gets better after the draft, but we know that’s not how it works.

smithandrew051 04-27-2025 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18048034)
The Patriots may have had the best overall draft of any team this year, especially in relation to filling needs with high-end players.

Best LT with Campbell
Best OC with Wilson
Most explosive RB with Henderson
Dynamic Z/Slot WR with Williams
A steal at DT with Farmer

Those guys might all start.

Woodson can play FS and NB, great depth player
Swinson on the Edge feels like another steal.

They put another draft like that together next year, they'll be a serious contender again

All true but with one major assumption: Drake Maye is a franchise QB.

I thought he looked good as a rookie, but he has to be good for them to be contenders.

Gary Cooper 04-27-2025 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 18048168)
I thought the Bills needed to get some juice on the offensive side of the ball. They did nothing there IMO. Some nice defensive moves, but easily matched by the other AFC contenders.

Their defense always does them in during the playoffs. The offense isn't their problem in big games.

ForeverChiefs58 04-27-2025 08:50 PM

Unfortunately for the rest of the nfl, the chiefs are going to be much better than before!

When all of our pieces come together there isn’t a team that can stop our destiny!

Chieftain 04-27-2025 08:55 PM

BuffaLOL's draft was underwhelming. They didn't draft any weapons for Allen and on defense, they got no impact players.

kccrow 04-27-2025 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 18048393)
BuffaLOL's draft was underwhelming. They didn't draft any weapons for Allen and on defense, they got no impact players.

Hmm, I'm going to disagree on no impact.

TJ Sanders was one of the best DT prospects. Derrick Harmon had 40 tackles 3.5 tfl and 1.5 sacks then 45 tackles 10.5 tfl and 5.0 sacks. Compare that to Sanders who had 43 tackles 10.0 tfl and 4.5 sacks followed by 50 tackles 7.0 tfl and 4.0 sacks. He's consistently disruptive.

They took Deone Walker at NT as well, who is kind of boom or bust, but that boom has serious potential.

I didn't love Landon Jackson, but he's a quicker version of Epenesa, and that will play. Getting him in the 3rd was a good value.

The DBs they took are all really good, and that's where they needed the most help.

Hairston had 5 INTs in 2023. He got injured halfway through 2024, so his production obviously took a major hit. With 4.28 speed, they absolutely drafted him to stick with a guy like Worthy. I didn't like him for us with how physical we like our CBs and how much we rely on them to tackle in space but that doesn't mean he's not an excellent player who can make you pay for your mistakes.

Hancock is one of the best NBs in the draft. He was everywhere for Ohio State.

Strong is a high-quality, physical CB who had 5 picks over the past 2 seasons.


I honestly don't understand what "more weapons" Josh Allen needs. They added Joshua Palmer and Laviska Shenault at WR in the offseason. Palmer is a really good WR who is likely to pop getting out of LA.

They have a great 1-2 with Knox and Kincaid, and added Hawes as a #3 in the draft. They have a great 3-deep RB. They didn't need weapons.

They needed DL and DB and attacked it.

Holladay 04-28-2025 12:29 AM

We can talk players all we want. Of course important, but it comes down to coaching.

I coached a bit, and put the players where they need to be and capitalized on their abilities.

Coaching is the secret sauce for life.

UChieffyBugger 04-28-2025 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18048458)
Hmm, I'm going to disagree on no impact.

TJ Sanders was one of the best DT prospects. Derrick Harmon had 40 tackles 3.5 tfl and 1.5 sacks then 45 tackles 10.5 tfl and 5.0 sacks. Compare that to Sanders who had 43 tackles 10.0 tfl and 4.5 sacks followed by 50 tackles 7.0 tfl and 4.0 sacks. He's consistently disruptive.

They took Deone Walker at NT as well, who is kind of boom or bust, but that boom has serious potential.

I didn't love Landon Jackson, but he's a quicker version of Epenesa, and that will play. Getting him in the 3rd was a good value.

The DBs they took are all really good, and that's where they needed the most help.

Hairston had 5 INTs in 2023. He got injured halfway through 2024, so his production obviously took a major hit. With 4.28 speed, they absolutely drafted him to stick with a guy like Worthy. I didn't like him for us with how physical we like our CBs and how much we rely on them to tackle in space but that doesn't mean he's not an excellent player who can make you pay for your mistakes.

Hancock is one of the best NBs in the draft. He was everywhere for Ohio State.

Strong is a high-quality, physical CB who had 5 picks over the past 2 seasons.


I honestly don't understand what "more weapons" Josh Allen needs. They added Joshua Palmer and Laviska Shenault at WR in the offseason. Palmer is a really good WR who is likely to pop getting out of LA.

They have a great 1-2 with Knox and Kincaid, and added Hawes as a #3 in the draft. They have a great 3-deep RB. They didn't need weapons.

They needed DL and DB and attacked it.

Their own fans on their forum are calling their WR room the worst in the league. But if you know their team better than them then OK :thumb:

In58men 04-28-2025 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 18048493)
Their own fans on their forum are calling their WR room the worst in the league. But if you know their team better than them then OK :thumb:

The majority of them didn’t want Josh Allen either.

Most of them have CTE due to being body slammed on tables.

Rainbarrel 04-28-2025 06:14 AM

Allen averages 4 fumbles lost and 13 INTs(last 3 years 15, 14, 18) 2024 he had 2 FL and 6 INTs. Last year being a trend seems unlikely

Jerm 04-28-2025 07:01 AM

I feel like coming out of the draft, the Chiefs did more to separate themselves than anyone did to close the gap…

If Simmons is healthy or Moore is solid, it’s a wrap…literally the only thing holding this team back.

Combine that with picking guys that can be contributors and supplement like Lott, Williams, Gillotte, and Royals…I’m feeling pretty good.

Hell imagine Smith being the guy we think he can be and Mitchell is healthy, Andy is going to draw up some diabolical stuff.

I feel as good as you possibly can about the Chiefs on April 28th.

Buehler445 04-28-2025 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 18048222)
In the NFC, did the Niners get better? Did they just have a down year or are they truly on a downside? They haven’t signed Purdy yet have they?

The Eagles still look like the clear front runner

Eagles are going to have a down year. They dominated us because they were so pissed off from losing to us the first time. They'll probably make the playoffs and beat someone because their roster is phenomenal, but I'd put real money they don't make the Super Bowl.

But what, aside from Jalen Hurts being a consummate professional, makes you think those guys will show up ready to grind? Their ****ing assbag HC? Maybe their OL guys if they learned anything from Kelce, but he was the obvious leader there. Brown? LOL. All the Georgia guys on their DL?

Those guys were driven by emotions, and long playoff runs, especially Super Bowls are emotionally draining.

RunKC 04-28-2025 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18048458)
Hmm, I'm going to disagree on no impact.

TJ Sanders was one of the best DT prospects. Derrick Harmon had 40 tackles 3.5 tfl and 1.5 sacks then 45 tackles 10.5 tfl and 5.0 sacks. Compare that to Sanders who had 43 tackles 10.0 tfl and 4.5 sacks followed by 50 tackles 7.0 tfl and 4.0 sacks. He's consistently disruptive.

They took Deone Walker at NT as well, who is kind of boom or bust, but that boom has serious potential.

I didn't love Landon Jackson, but he's a quicker version of Epenesa, and that will play. Getting him in the 3rd was a good value.

The DBs they took are all really good, and that's where they needed the most help.

Hairston had 5 INTs in 2023. He got injured halfway through 2024, so his production obviously took a major hit. With 4.28 speed, they absolutely drafted him to stick with a guy like Worthy. I didn't like him for us with how physical we like our CBs and how much we rely on them to tackle in space but that doesn't mean he's not an excellent player who can make you pay for your mistakes.

Hancock is one of the best NBs in the draft. He was everywhere for Ohio State.

Strong is a high-quality, physical CB who had 5 picks over the past 2 seasons.


I honestly don't understand what "more weapons" Josh Allen needs. They added Joshua Palmer and Laviska Shenault at WR in the offseason. Palmer is a really good WR who is likely to pop getting out of LA.

They have a great 1-2 with Knox and Kincaid, and added Hawes as a #3 in the draft. They have a great 3-deep RB. They didn't need weapons.

They needed DL and DB and attacked it.

Yeah their draft was entirely dependent on what their failures were vs us. They watched Hollywood and Worthy destroy them in the slot so they got Hairston.
They watched their DL struggle against our poor LT and LG so they got Sanders and Jackson.

They had a good draft. Sanders was one of my favorite DT’s and I like Hairston/Jackson. The one pick I didn’t like for them was Walker. He’s a “potential” guy, which is fine in rd 4, but he was really disappointing and needs a ton of work.

Ty Robinson was a way better option to me. That guy reminded me of Brandon Fiske. Even diet Fiske would have been amazing value there, which of course ****ing Howie capitalized on like smart GM’s do.

Speaking of weapons, the Bills have Elijah Moore in today for a visit. Not sure how that guy is still available.


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